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Ontario Place parking garage a symbol of all that is wrong
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An artist’s rendering of what the massive new garage at Ontario Place will look like.
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By Christopher Hume Contributor
Christopher Hume is the Toronto Star's former urban issues columnist.

Turning a sow’s ear into a silk purse is one thing, turning a 3,000-car parking garage into a major waterfront attraction quite another. But if Ontario Premier Doug Ford is to be believed — difficult at the best of times — the massive five-storey structure will play an important part in the success of his highly dubious Ontario Place remake.

According to Ontario tourism minister Stan Cho, however, not only will the $400-million shoebox draw drivers from across the city, province and even country, it will actually generate $60 million for provincial coffers annually, or about $160,000 daily, 365 days a year. That may sound a bit exaggerated but Cho blithely assures skeptics, Ford’s shiny new complex will attract no fewer than 6 million visitors annually.

If the minister’s numbers are accurate — highly doubtful — perhaps the unspoken truth is that the parking garage lies at the very heart of Ford’s controversial scheme. Perhaps it’s what the fuss is all about. The rest is window-dressing, or at best a life-support system for a stacked car lot.

Certainly, the renderings released this week show a series of small green spaces, all pleasant enough but feeling strangely incidental, disconnected and generic. They could be anywhere. It’s the garage that will be the most visible part of the complex, the image by which Ontario Place is known, an ominous funhouse/factory by way of Roald Dahl.

Except, of course, for the Therme luxury spa that will loom over the 63-hectare (155 acre) site, a grossly oversized terrarium that couldn’t be more out of place. Using the site for a spa that more properly belongs in, say, Milton, Mississauga or Markham is obviously wrong-headed. Worse, it smacks of a sellout.

Handing over land on the shore of Lake Ontario to the forces of banality is unconscionable and to be blunt, plain dumb. And after the stellar work of Waterfront Toronto has done since its formation in 2000, it is also inexcusable.

Critics have rightly pointed out that everything about Ford’s deal with Therme is disturbing. Why, they ask, is the province paying for the spa’s parking garage? Why is Therme’s lease for 95 years? Most important, why did Ford give away public land to a private operator, a dodgy one at that?

But in their fight with Queen’s Park, many have forgotten that Ontario Place, which opened in 1971, was shut down in 2012 because attendance had fallen beyond the point of no return. Indeed, it had become an architectural and cultural relic of an earlier, more optimistic, albeit paternalistic era, not slick enough to thrive in the digital age, not old enough to offer the charm of nostalgia.

Ontario Place was in desperate need of a transformation. But by any measure, Ford’s plan falls short. The closed-door deal-making process didn’t pass the smell test, as, inevitably, neither do the results. Any proposal that puts a monstrous parking garage in valuable public land on the waterfront is, by definition, lacking in imagination, intelligence and integrity. It fails on every level.

Given Ford’s noisome support for turning Ontario Place into a gambling casino back in 2018, no one should be surprised by the lack of sophistication in his approach to redeveloping public land. To him it is an especially juicy asset awaiting monetization. And what better way to generate cash than signing up private interests.

A unique opportunity has been squandered. The chance to bring the hopefulness of the original Ontario Place into the 21st century has been all but crushed. The notion that Ontario, let alone Toronto, is something to celebrate has been overlooked in the rush to make a buck.

That’s understandable, but only to a point. A community that adds up to nothing more than the sum of its parts risks losing the qualities that made it worth inhabiting in the first place.

Civic success can never be assumed. A city in the grips of a leader who like Doug Ford is willing to sell its waterfront for a parking garage must fight to reclaim its future.
 

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silentkisser

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Christ....what a mess. First, the "revenue" outlook is mind boggling. $160,000 daily, as in all 3,000 spots will be used? Are they crazy? Then, you need to think about the events down there. Sure, there are indy races, concerts, MLS/CFL games, as well as the Ex and trade shows. Will that keep the garage filled? Maybe. But not every day of the year. That is super unrealistic.

Another issue is traffic. Imagine the lines to get in and out of a parking structure like that. Lakeshore is already a fucking disaster during busy times, imagine having all those 905ers driving in instead of taking the GO Train, (eventual) subway or streetcar. And, are they doing this for that fucking spa???

Finally, could they make it any more pedestrian and bland? Is this really the best they could do for the waterfront?
 

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If they`re going to hit their target numbers, it will be over 50 bucks to park. Of course they will be nowhere near capacity on many, or even most days,...it`s the economy Doug. Oh well, it can always be turned into condos, what a helluva mess they`ve made of the waterfront.
 
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I thought that the title of the thread was: "Dog Just Shat Out a Monstrous Loaf of Shit by the Lakefront!!!!!!" and I was confused that it was posted in the Politics section.

But then I saw that
Duggo had made another bizarre, megalomanic, crazy rant about nonsense and I understood!
 

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I think they're more concerned about a monster parking facility in a zone that is already massively congested and where the pricing just doesn't make sense.

But I know you like making jokes about gays. So you do you.
Its also idiotic that the province is going to spend $400 million of public money on a parking lot for a private company.

This is a parking garage that holds half what DoFo wants.
This is what he wants to use prime waterfront property for.

 
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Frankfooter

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he can tunnel under the 401 but not under the cne parking lots? What a doofuss!
Its all for the insider contracts.

Same way he's using contracted nursing even though it costs $1 billion more each year. So his buddies can cash in, he can declare he's spending more on health care while real nursing numbers decline and he justifies private health care. Its the standard conservative playbook he follows on every file.

 

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I thought that the title of the thread was: "Dog Just Shat Out a Monstrous Loaf of Shit by the Lakefront!!!!!!" and I was confused that it was posted in the Politics section.

But then I saw that
Duggo had made another bizarre, megalomanic, crazy rant about nonsense and I understood!
Perpetually aggrieved, outraged and offended, Ken and Karen, rightie-tightie whine merchants may be able to erase words in print from a thread title with their waterfalls of crocodile tears, but they cannot erase the gruesomely visual, monstrously tangible nor odorously olfactible stench of the resultant reality of the Thug's sumo pose squatting mega dump of merde by the lake.
 
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Perpetually aggrieved, outraged and offended, Ken and Karen, rightie-tightie whine merchants may be able to erase words in print with their waterfalls of crocodile tears from a thread title, but they cannot erase the gruesomely visual, monstrously tangible nor odorously olfactible stench of the resultant reality of the Thug's sumo pose squatting mega dump of merde by the lake.
You missed the fact that I actually agreed with your initial post, huh? 🥴
 

Anbarandy

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You missed the fact that I actually agreed with your initial post, huh? 🥴
U missed the fact that I didn't miss the fact the that u didn't disagree with my original, squatting sumo pose, Druggie-dump by the lakefront post, huh?
 
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