Evie
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I saw her recently. Very cute and young looking girl. She told me she's new to escorting business and was a MPA in her previous life. She is listed as safe GFE but I would disgaree. As soon as the session started, the typical massage parlour type upselling started as well.
Kissing: $50 extra
Daty: Extra
BBBJ: $50 extra
At the time of booking I was told that she is safe GFE but this upsell in the room borders on B&S. My suggestion to you would be to be prepared to shell out $220 + for HH GFE session with her. Overall I would not repeat due to this upsell even though she is young and has a tight body. She needs time to mature up in this business. On the positive side, she is easy to talk to, has no attitude whatsoever and is enthusiastic in bed (but needs directions, again due to immaturity).
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I have used secret rendezvous couple of times now and what I have noticed is that each time my half hour appointment was no more than 20 - 22 minutes in duration. As an example, if your appointment is at 2 pm, cydney gives the room number and buzzer number exactly at 2 pm. By the time you get buzzed into the building, take the elevator, get in the apartment, hand over the donation money and girl comes back into the room after taking care of donation money, it is 2.10. She promptly calls in at 2.30 pm to let the girl know that time is up.
This has happened to me twice now and hopefully management will rectify it before loyal customers start going somewhere else.
Kissing: $50 extra
Daty: Extra
BBBJ: $50 extra
At the time of booking I was told that she is safe GFE but this upsell in the room borders on B&S. My suggestion to you would be to be prepared to shell out $220 + for HH GFE session with her. Overall I would not repeat due to this upsell even though she is young and has a tight body. She needs time to mature up in this business. On the positive side, she is easy to talk to, has no attitude whatsoever and is enthusiastic in bed (but needs directions, again due to immaturity).
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I have used secret rendezvous couple of times now and what I have noticed is that each time my half hour appointment was no more than 20 - 22 minutes in duration. As an example, if your appointment is at 2 pm, cydney gives the room number and buzzer number exactly at 2 pm. By the time you get buzzed into the building, take the elevator, get in the apartment, hand over the donation money and girl comes back into the room after taking care of donation money, it is 2.10. She promptly calls in at 2.30 pm to let the girl know that time is up.
This has happened to me twice now and hopefully management will rectify it before loyal customers start going somewhere else.
I would like to respond to some of the issues brought forth in the review as I hate to feel that we have a dissatisfied client in any way, shape or form, but I have to admit I am struggling a little on how to deal with this. The reason being is that this is the first I am hearing about it.
I would like to think that anyone who has dealt with me would feel safe enough to express such concerns with me directly at the time of the incident as that is the time I can best address the concern. Not having that opportunity, I am left with trying to deal with this issue after the fact. That makes things a little difficult from my end. So I will try my best here with this now new information.
1) Upsells - First I want to say that I do not condone upsells at all. I will speak to Evie about this to ensure this does not happen again. I can't say that it did or didn't happen because again, this is the first I am hearing about it. Evie is listed as a SAFE GFE - therefore there should be no discussion about BBBJ or any other "True" GFE type service. This makes my position a little difficult because, if you as a client want BBBJ, then she would be in her right to charge extra for that as it is not apart of her listed service. Just like if a lady wanted to charge extra for Greek. Now usually if there is something available as an extra I do list it on the profile. We don't B&S our clients. She is as advertised and BBBJ is not advertised as part of her available services. So with that said, she will provide only SAFE GFE services which are LK and CBJ, not BBBJ or DFK. You have my word that I will speak with her to ensure that not even on an upsell will BBBJ or DFK be available to anyone at anytime. That way there is no confusion in the future. The upsell on DATY, I am completely confused about as well, so I will definitely address that issue with her.
Evie is new to escorting, and is still learning. I can recall her very first appointment. It was kind of cute and showed her innocences in this field, as she asked for the donation before the client even got his shoes off! Thankfully he understood and we can all laugh about it now. So she does need some time to get into the swing of how things work in this business and how they work at our agency. I am confident that she will continue to grow and learn.
2) Time issue - I can understand how this can be a bit confusing, so I will try to break down how it works. The call is placed from the client in the parking at 2pm. I do not start the clock until the lady calls me which is suppose to be after she has collected the money and the client is in the shower. That can be at about 2:05pm. I can see how after the shower, and you both are in the room that brings it to about 2:10pm, but the time starts when I get the "okay" call from the lady. I then call at 2:30 with the 5 minute warning as it usually takes about 5 minutes for clean up and good-byes. By then you should be out of the apartment by 2:35pm and that is therefore your 30 minutes from the time I get the call from the lady. So I can see how it may feel a little short when the phone call is made at 25 minutes into the session, but I can't see how anyone {unless by their choice} as made it up to the apartment and back down to the car in less that 30 minutes. If this has ever been the case, then again I would appreciate a phone call once you arrive at your car to make that complaint. It makes it much easier for me to address the issue at the time it has happened. I will also add that you are encouraged to stay your full time. Be that a half hour, hour or longer.
So I hope this address your concerns nofrills and for the others who may be reading this. I can not stress enough the importance of bringing these issues to me at the time of the incident. I am better able to address the issues, make any corrections that I can, make any compensation that is needed, or help you as the client understand why it was that way if an explanation is needed. Nothing is too small to bring to my attention. If you only got 28 minutes instead of 30 minutes, please feel free to let me know. I may not give you your next session at $40 off, but I promise I will address the issue properly and not dismiss it because it is only 2 minutes. That is not the type of agency that I operate.
So with all that said, and I apologize for it being that long winded - please accept my apologizes nofrills for the issues that you have stated here, and I hope that you do continue to call us in the future.
Have a wonderful day.
I would like to think that anyone who has dealt with me would feel safe enough to express such concerns with me directly at the time of the incident as that is the time I can best address the concern. Not having that opportunity, I am left with trying to deal with this issue after the fact. That makes things a little difficult from my end. So I will try my best here with this now new information.
1) Upsells - First I want to say that I do not condone upsells at all. I will speak to Evie about this to ensure this does not happen again. I can't say that it did or didn't happen because again, this is the first I am hearing about it. Evie is listed as a SAFE GFE - therefore there should be no discussion about BBBJ or any other "True" GFE type service. This makes my position a little difficult because, if you as a client want BBBJ, then she would be in her right to charge extra for that as it is not apart of her listed service. Just like if a lady wanted to charge extra for Greek. Now usually if there is something available as an extra I do list it on the profile. We don't B&S our clients. She is as advertised and BBBJ is not advertised as part of her available services. So with that said, she will provide only SAFE GFE services which are LK and CBJ, not BBBJ or DFK. You have my word that I will speak with her to ensure that not even on an upsell will BBBJ or DFK be available to anyone at anytime. That way there is no confusion in the future. The upsell on DATY, I am completely confused about as well, so I will definitely address that issue with her.
Evie is new to escorting, and is still learning. I can recall her very first appointment. It was kind of cute and showed her innocences in this field, as she asked for the donation before the client even got his shoes off! Thankfully he understood and we can all laugh about it now. So she does need some time to get into the swing of how things work in this business and how they work at our agency. I am confident that she will continue to grow and learn.
2) Time issue - I can understand how this can be a bit confusing, so I will try to break down how it works. The call is placed from the client in the parking at 2pm. I do not start the clock until the lady calls me which is suppose to be after she has collected the money and the client is in the shower. That can be at about 2:05pm. I can see how after the shower, and you both are in the room that brings it to about 2:10pm, but the time starts when I get the "okay" call from the lady. I then call at 2:30 with the 5 minute warning as it usually takes about 5 minutes for clean up and good-byes. By then you should be out of the apartment by 2:35pm and that is therefore your 30 minutes from the time I get the call from the lady. So I can see how it may feel a little short when the phone call is made at 25 minutes into the session, but I can't see how anyone {unless by their choice} as made it up to the apartment and back down to the car in less that 30 minutes. If this has ever been the case, then again I would appreciate a phone call once you arrive at your car to make that complaint. It makes it much easier for me to address the issue at the time it has happened. I will also add that you are encouraged to stay your full time. Be that a half hour, hour or longer.
So I hope this address your concerns nofrills and for the others who may be reading this. I can not stress enough the importance of bringing these issues to me at the time of the incident. I am better able to address the issues, make any corrections that I can, make any compensation that is needed, or help you as the client understand why it was that way if an explanation is needed. Nothing is too small to bring to my attention. If you only got 28 minutes instead of 30 minutes, please feel free to let me know. I may not give you your next session at $40 off, but I promise I will address the issue properly and not dismiss it because it is only 2 minutes. That is not the type of agency that I operate.
So with all that said, and I apologize for it being that long winded - please accept my apologizes nofrills for the issues that you have stated here, and I hope that you do continue to call us in the future.
Have a wonderful day.
mishi said:
I regret to say that in light of what has been brought to my attention here in this thread, "true" GFE services will NOT be offered by Evie, even as an upsell option to some. As I said, I do not support upselling, as well as I am not a big fan of the YMMV factor. I believe all clients should get equal service. She is listed as a SAFE provider as per her request. I do hope this does not deter anyone from giving her chance as she is a great girl and if her services should change to a TRUE GFE in the future, you guys will be the first to know.
Thank you all for your support, and loyal use of SR! It is greatly appreciated.
Hello SR: Thanks for your response regarding Evie and Time issue.
As I mentioned short charging on time happened not once but twice. Both times it was 20 - 22 minutes for 1/2 hr appt. I'm not sure if your practice of phone call 25 minutes into the appointment is a standard agency drill or not. I normally see independents and yours is the only incall agency that I have used in my hobbying. So I have nothing to compare your practice with. Maybe that's how all agencies operate.
Regarding Evie's services, we must draw the distinction between safe GFE and upsell. Safe GFE normally means LFK / DATY / CBJ. When I saw Evie she clearly told me, after taking the payment and when the session started, that there was to be no kissing (unless I pay her extra $50), CBJ only (BBBJ was available for $50) and no DATY (again extra for that). It is upto the lady to determine her own comfort level in providing these services. You either do it or don't. Upselling these services as extras, once into the session, gives out the message that everything is available at the right price. If I had known this earlier I would have not booked Evie, safe GFE or not.
As I mentioned short charging on time happened not once but twice. Both times it was 20 - 22 minutes for 1/2 hr appt. I'm not sure if your practice of phone call 25 minutes into the appointment is a standard agency drill or not. I normally see independents and yours is the only incall agency that I have used in my hobbying. So I have nothing to compare your practice with. Maybe that's how all agencies operate.
Regarding Evie's services, we must draw the distinction between safe GFE and upsell. Safe GFE normally means LFK / DATY / CBJ. When I saw Evie she clearly told me, after taking the payment and when the session started, that there was to be no kissing (unless I pay her extra $50), CBJ only (BBBJ was available for $50) and no DATY (again extra for that). It is upto the lady to determine her own comfort level in providing these services. You either do it or don't. Upselling these services as extras, once into the session, gives out the message that everything is available at the right price. If I had known this earlier I would have not booked Evie, safe GFE or not.
LK/DATY/CBJ is on the SAFE GFE menu. Both Evie and Nikki are safe GFE. Ashlyn is TRUE GFE and that is DFK/DATY/BBBJ. At least that is my understanding of the terms, and I think we all agree on that.
Also I do have it listed on each ladies profile either SAFE GFE or TRUE GFE. There is to be no upsell, not even for BBBJ or DFK. I do not condone it and will not allow it. I spoke with her breifly today about the issue to double check the services, and you all have my word that I will speak to Evie again face to face about this issue first thing tomorrow. If this happens again, then I would hope that you as the client would come to me directly so that I have the chance to address the issue right away.
As for the time issue. I can see how this would be a little different then what you are use to. Indies can be a little bit more flexible with their time where as an agency can not.
Lovegirls - I hope this clears up all these issues for you as you were the one asking about Evie. She is a safe GFE provider, and there is to be no upselling.
Nofrills - thank you again for addressing your concerns. I aplogize for the issues that you had with Evie and we look forward to hopefully seeing you again in the future.
Also I do have it listed on each ladies profile either SAFE GFE or TRUE GFE. There is to be no upsell, not even for BBBJ or DFK. I do not condone it and will not allow it. I spoke with her breifly today about the issue to double check the services, and you all have my word that I will speak to Evie again face to face about this issue first thing tomorrow. If this happens again, then I would hope that you as the client would come to me directly so that I have the chance to address the issue right away.
As for the time issue. I can see how this would be a little different then what you are use to. Indies can be a little bit more flexible with their time where as an agency can not.
Lovegirls - I hope this clears up all these issues for you as you were the one asking about Evie. She is a safe GFE provider, and there is to be no upselling.
Nofrills - thank you again for addressing your concerns. I aplogize for the issues that you had with Evie and we look forward to hopefully seeing you again in the future.
I think that Cydney has tried to explain and answer the situations that occured here very well.
Personally I have only had one experience with SR, but I have had many experiences with agencies, both incall and outcall.
Cydney's procedure of calling with 5 minutes to go has been my experiece withother agencies as well. Frankly I like it because that way I kow that there is time for a proper cleanup and goodbye before leaving.
As for the service levels, if a lady is listed as Safe GFE I go in expecting that and nothing more. A True GFE I know what to expect from that as well and well from there you only really have PSE or additionals like Cydney explained about greek etc.
My personal preference to to book a minimum of an hour so I guess getting "shorted" doesn't become an issue really, if you have been shorted on a 30 minute date then I guess it would seem more important.
A few years ago I booked a 2 hour date with a really attractive young hardbody. I had looked forward to the date for sometime and it wasn't everything I had hoped for. The lady was wonderful, but we just didn't click. So after an hour and a half I said she could leave.
I got a call from the agency before I left the room, it was an outcall, wondering what was wrong. I had a good relation with the agency and they were concerned. I explained the situation and held nothing against the agency in this case.
It was a nice touch to get the call though, it showed concern for the appearance of the agency to the client.
Cydney has tried to address this situation quickly and I would hope that if I were to find a reason to call the agency back after an issue had occurred it would be treated the same way.
Personally I have only had one experience with SR, but I have had many experiences with agencies, both incall and outcall.
Cydney's procedure of calling with 5 minutes to go has been my experiece withother agencies as well. Frankly I like it because that way I kow that there is time for a proper cleanup and goodbye before leaving.
As for the service levels, if a lady is listed as Safe GFE I go in expecting that and nothing more. A True GFE I know what to expect from that as well and well from there you only really have PSE or additionals like Cydney explained about greek etc.
My personal preference to to book a minimum of an hour so I guess getting "shorted" doesn't become an issue really, if you have been shorted on a 30 minute date then I guess it would seem more important.
A few years ago I booked a 2 hour date with a really attractive young hardbody. I had looked forward to the date for sometime and it wasn't everything I had hoped for. The lady was wonderful, but we just didn't click. So after an hour and a half I said she could leave.
I got a call from the agency before I left the room, it was an outcall, wondering what was wrong. I had a good relation with the agency and they were concerned. I explained the situation and held nothing against the agency in this case.
It was a nice touch to get the call though, it showed concern for the appearance of the agency to the client.
Cydney has tried to address this situation quickly and I would hope that if I were to find a reason to call the agency back after an issue had occurred it would be treated the same way.
Thank you anyway for your consideration and happy hunting in your hobbying!mishi said:
Kurt said:
Of course....we encourage it.
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It means what others have said.mishi said:
I think one of the great things about hobbying is that you can have all the variety you like. This is not something I can personally offer you right now as only one of my ladies provides the service that you specifically are looking for. So happy HUNTING [yes , misprint] in finding more providers to provide you the service that you want.
Basically I was wishing you luck and hoping that you find the type of SP's that you are looking for.
Also as a follow up for those who are interested, I did speak to Evie, face to face as promised and confirmed the SAFE GFE menu of LK/DATY/CBJ and your usually MSOG/MPOS etc. I hope that we can all move past this now and whether you choose to use SR or not, we wish you all the best.
