Scarborough ignored in transit plans, residents complain

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Toronto man outruns newly-opened Finch LRT by 18 minutes


A Toronto man challenged the newly-opened Finch Light-Rail Transit to a race — and he won.

The Toronto Transit Commission's Line 6 was riddled with service disruptions and disappointment from commuters during its opening week, particularly as advocates and councillors called for signal priority and faster trips.



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Mac Bauer, who regularly races TTC vehicles, decided to take it upon himself to see if the new line truly was as slow as people described it to him.

“People started sending me articles of it taking 55 minutes, 60 minutes to go 10 kilometers,” he said. “This shouldn't be happening.”

Bauer started racing TTC vehicles approximately one year ago, once he and his wife realized how long it took them to get to Roncesvalles from the east end of the city. That’s when he started making videos under the username 514runner on Instagram.

While he has outrun many streetcars, he didn’t know if he’d be able to win against the new line.

“It was icy, it was cold, it was tough,” Bauer told CBC Toronto Sunday. “I was pretty surprised when I got out there and it was as hilly as it was.”

Yet, he still beat the Finch LRT by 18 minutes.


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Line 6 of the TTC, which includes 18 stops, connects Finch West station to Humber Polytechnic’s north campus.

After its grand opening last Sunday, a CBC Toronto reporter rode the entire 10.3-kilometre line from east to west Monday, finding it took roughly 55 minutes to complete. The reporter’s eastbound return trip was closer to 47 minutes.

Bauer said he noticed a variety of issues with the LRT, including a lack of signal priority and too many stops within a short range.

“When the LRT was able to go and the stops [were] a little bit further apart, it was able to make some headway on me,” he said. “But as we got closer to Finch West, it seemed like the stops were getting closer and closer together and it just really bogged everything down.”

The newly unveiled Finch West LRT has faced mechanical and operational hiccups throughout its first week. Bauer said that’s unacceptable.

“This is a generally underserved part of Toronto,” Bauer said. “That's a pretty big disservice to this group of people that really thought something good was going to happen.”

In a statement to CBC Toronto, the TTC said Line 6 is in a soft opening phase.

“The TTC, Metrolinx and the City are all committed, and working together, to speed up trip times through various initiatives like transit signal priority, as well as capitalizing on the experience and lessons learned during this soft opening phase,” spokesperson Stuart Green said.

He added the TTC is “confident” speeds will increase by spring, when the LRT is fully operational.

CBC Toronto reached out to Metrolinx for comment, but did not hear back in time for publication.

Andrew Pulsifer, executive director of transit advocacy group TTCriders, said he’s a big fan of Bauer’s.

“He does great work and really shines a light on the slowness of our surface transit network,” he said. “Not a surprise that he's able to outrun the LRT.”

Pulsifer told CBC Toronto Sunday he’s hoping to see signal priority, which would allow TTC vehicles to go through a light without having to wait for left-turning vehicles, installed across the system.

“People who take transit, they're making the right decision,” he said. “They do deserve to have priority.”

Bauer said the whole system is “struggling.”

“I pay a lot of taxes and I want the transit to be good,” he said. “As a growing city, we really need to be doing better when it comes to our transit, especially with people being called back to work.”
 
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Chris Selley: Toronto's latest transit triumph is $3.7B for a train slower than a bus


There is no joy in Hogtown. Public transit has struck out. Again. After many years of construction and $3.7 billion spent, there is a new light-rail line on Finch Avenue West, in the city’s north end. It is 10.3 kilometres long, and almost entirely at grade. (For $360 million per kilometre, many places in the world can build fully underground heavy-rail subways. But the mystery of the North American infrastructure surcharge is a subject for another day.)


The Finch West LRT stops once every 572 metres, on average, which is too many times. And it is achingly, mind-numbingly slow. When I rode it recently, the final damage was 50 minutes to travel 10.3 kilometres, for a blistering average speed of 12 kilometres per hour.

Twelve. Pathetic. But there was comic relief, at least: The Number 36 bus, which the LRT is meant to replace, is still running for now. And you can watch the Number 36 buses whizzing by you from your seat on the LRT. So, $3.7 billion to underperform the bus. Dismal.

All in all, thanks to the University Line subway crawling its way north to Finch from Bloor Street — the subway doesn’t go very fast anymore either — the trip from Yonge and Bloor near Postmedia’s Toronto headquarters to the LRT’s western terminus at Humber College had taken an unfeasible one hour and 43 minutes. To travel 25 kilometres.


“Unfinished, unusable,” one reviewer memorably decreed of Blackberry’s disastrous Playbook tablet . That’s what Toronto has, basically: the Blackberry Playbook of LRTs. And there’s another one eventually set to open on Eglinton Avenue: far longer, far more expensive, far more over-budget and past schedule. That LRT is largely underground, where — unlike on Finch — the trains won’t have to compete with vehicular traffic. But where it’s at grade, it will; and with the TTC, slower is always possible.

The good news, such as it is: Mayor Olivia Chow, who seems to be entering re-election mode, quickly admitted she had been on the LRT and had very similar thoughts to everyone else . Too slow. Must go faster. (The province built the Finch and Eglinton LRTs. The TTC will operate them.)


So at the next city council meeting, councillors will debate (among other things) giving the Finch West LRT vehicles “signal priority” — i.e., they won’t have to wait for cars to cross or turn left in front of them, or at least they won’t have to wait as long.

This is how LRT technology works everywhere else in the world, basically: If a train has to interact with vehicular traffic, it needs to matter more than cars, otherwise buses like the Number 36 are the more compelling option. Buses can go around things. True enough, they hold fewer people than an LRT, so you need more buses and operators; and I think most people would just prefer to be on rails than on wheels, all else being equal.

But all else isn’t equal.

For $3.7 billion, municipal, provincial and federal taxpayers have been given something that’s slower than the bus , and every bit as maddening in its own ways. Indeed, unable to stomach the thought of riding the LRT all the way back to the Yonge subway, on the return trip I bailed at Kipling Avenue (actually “Mount Olive Station” since none of the LRT’s stops are actually named after their major cross streets; that would be too easy) and alighted a Number 45 Kipling bus, which headed southward toward the Bloor subway at what seemed like downright unseemly speed.


 The LRT vehicle that columnist Chris Selley rode on along the new Finch Avenue West route in Toronto managed an average speed of just 12 kilometres per hour.

The LRT vehicle that columnist Chris Selley rode on along the new Finch Avenue West route in Toronto managed an average speed of just 12 kilometres per hour.© Peter J. Thompson/National Post
As absurd as it is that Toronto would build infrastructure like this without signal priority baked in, it also means we don’t really know how much time it would save. Even with signal priority I suspect it wouldn’t be enough to make this anything but a wash versus the bus — a wash, that is, except for $3.6 billion pissed down a rope. And that’s assuming Ontario Premier Doug Ford, patron saint of every person driving alone in a car, doesn’t intervene to stop it from happening.


One of the most infuriating aspects of the COVID-19 pandemic was hearing people defend governments almost explicitly on grounds that if we don’t defend governments, bad actors and bad outcomes might be emboldened, and anarchy might then overtake us. The Finch West LRT is a reason why people don’t trust Canadian governments. This is why we can’t have nice things — but then, an LRT isn’t even all that nice a thing. It’s just basic, functional public transit. And we can’t have that either.

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 A Light Rail Transit vehicle on the new Finch Avenue West LRT route in Toronto.

A Light Rail Transit vehicle on the new Finch Avenue West LRT route in Toronto.© Peter J. Thompson/National Post
 
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Good.

Righting the monumental mishandling, bungling, mismanagement of the procurement of the LRT Line 6 inflicted upon us by of the mayor of Toronto, Doug Squeaky Clean Fraud!
This is prime dysfordia happening right now, Anby.

Listen to some of Duggo's old speeches and let them calm you. You know you want to do that.
 

wigglee

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Changing the lights won't help much unless they also double the speed those stupid trains travel at. What a bunch of bozos... late, over budget and slower than the bus.
 

Dutch Oven

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Yes, speed up the LRT by slowing down all other traffic. Maybe surface rail is just a stupid idea in a densely populated city?
 

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New Finch West LRT forced to stop service multiple times during winter storm


Toronto's newest light rail line has been scuppered by a Boxing Day winter storm, shutting down service several times during the day, as the city struggles with a blast of snow and hailstones.

Just after 7 a.m. on Friday, the line was closed between Driftwood and Humber College stations because of debris on the line. A couple of hours later, communication problems developed between Tobermory and Humber College.



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At one point, around 10 a.m., the entire line was closed and had to be replaced with shuttle buses because of "multiple switch issues" along its route.

By roughly 11 a.m., the TTC said service had resumed across the line.

It only took a couple of hours, however, for the line to go down again. This time, a mechanical problem between Humber College and Martin Grove stations stopped trains from running, leading to replacement buses.

That problem was reported just before 2 p.m. and extended to the entire line shortly after. It was reportedly resolved around 5 p.m.

A spokesperson for the TTC said there were issues with the switching signals, a problem the line has experienced before in cold weather. They suggested the city's transit agency had few details of what had gone wrong.

"As we understand it, there are switch issues that Metrolinx and their maintainer are responding to," they told Global News. "That’s as much as we know."


The Finch West LRT opened in December to complaints about its speeds and technical issues. It was built by a contractor for the provincial transit agency Metrolinx but is operated by the TTC.

It is the first new transit line to open in the city since the early 2000s. Already, concerns about the speed it must travel through intersections and long waits at traffic lights have led to a political push for signal priority and increased speeds.

The issues also coincide with freezing temperatures and winter storm conditions.

During testing last winter, Metrolinx found snow-clearing issues were bringing its trains to a halt on the line. One official observed at the time that, if the line had been open, customers would have been stuck walking.

Metrolinx said those issues related to how the City of Toronto managed its snow clearing and that they would not be repeated this year.

The agency did not immediately respond to questions from Global News about the latest shutdown.
 
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southpaw

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Yes, speed up the LRT by slowing down all other traffic. Maybe surface rail is just a stupid idea in a densely populated city?
Yes, let vehicles with one person in them always have priority over those with 50 people.
You can have one (roads), or you can have the other (rails). You can't have both in the same space.

This is the same stupidity as the bike lanes. Politicians will promise you everything, and everything will suffer.
 

Frankfooter

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You can have one (roads), or you can have the other (rails). You can't have both in the same space.

This is the same stupidity as the bike lanes. Politicians will promise you everything, and everything will suffer.
Congestion charges are working in London and NY.
Paris put in more bike lanes and that's working.
DoFo hired his donors to build the Finch LRT, they got rich and their work is shit.

 
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