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Global Atheist Convention Cancelled Due To Lack Of Interest

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To be honest, I'm disappointed.

"Reason to Hope", the third Global Atheist Convention scheduled for Melbourne in February 2018, has been cancelled because of "lack of interest" (according to my sources).

The conference was to be headlined by Sir Salman Rushdie, the highly esteemed – one might even say revered – novelist. In 1989 the Iranian cleric Ayatollah Khomeini issued a fatwa against him after his novel The Satanic Verses was published. It was the Islamic world that took offence for what it said about the Prophet, but the novel took aim at Sikhs as well, and at religion in general.

Rushdie once called religion a "poison in the blood". He argued that respect for religion is not deserved:

"What is there to respect in any of this, or in any of the crimes now being committed almost daily around the world in religion's dreaded name? How well, with what fatal results, religion erects totems, and how willing we are to kill for them."

Rushdie is himself totemic; not simply an artist but a piece of history himself. If anyone knows what damage excessive religious zeal can do, it is he.

Richard Dawkins was also to make the trip, along with a range of other commentators and scholars, including locals Leslie Cannold and Jane Caro.

Alongside the thinkers, there was also going to be the "entertainers". Comic atheism is a particularly strong strand, and religious pomposity provides it with plenty of material. No doubt there was to be a feast of gloating about census figures.

But it isn't to be. It's a great shame there's a lack of interest. I say that as someone who believes in God and thinks that it is the most reasonable thing to believe. I say that as someone who is very much in the sights of the Atheist Foundation of Australia as an active theist. I think faith, and in particular Christian faith, is good for Australia.

But I also think that the full and frank discussion of fundamental ideas is part of what a healthy culture promotes and enjoys. A Global Atheist Convention is to be welcomed, because every time people think about God and about the meaning of life is a timewe more deeply consider the value and purpose of human life. It makes us better citizens.

At one level, this is just because it becomes competitive. One of the most difficult things for an atheist to describe is how, if there's no God, right and wrong have any meaning. Without God, how can we meaningfully speak of the ethical? The effort that atheists deploy to show that they are good, and love the good, surely promotes more ethical behaviour.

But what really is the poison in the blood is not religion: it is apathy. Human beings don't need religion to be vile. We can be vile perfectly well without it. Even viler, I'd argue.

But when we don't care about ultimate questions we are really at our worst. Even no faith is better than lazy faith. When we don't bother to care whether Manus Island is a monstrous policy carried out in our name; when we don't care whether indigenous people suffer discrimination and injustice daily in our nation; when we don't care about domestic violence in our community – these are our lowest moments as a society.

And when we don't have a story to tell the next generation about the meaning and purpose of human life – a "reason to hope" – then we are only a hair's breadth away from barbarism.

At least the atheists were trying to offer something better than that.

Dr Michael Jensen is rector of St Mark's Anglican Church Darling Point.
 

danmand

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I find that logical.
 

Charlemagne

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The atheist community does a terrible job of organizing.

However a science convention is pretty much the same thing.
 

danmand

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The atheist community does a terrible job of organizing.

However a science convention is pretty much the same thing.
Nah, there is no need to organize atheists. Obviously not.
 

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A rare occasion where I agree with dan. Atheism is not (should not be) a religion. It simply means not accepting the existence of god(s) on faith. The only point I can see in a organization is to profit from the membership and apply for tax-exempt status like churches (I see neither as a positive).

If people like C-M want to be born again then good for them. If he was secure in his beliefs then atheists wouldn't bother him.
 

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I am a non believer,... do not call me an atheist.

That said,... I think that atheists,... an outdated religious term,... are people who need the comradery, often resembling a religion, to help them with their doubts,... maybe they should be called anti-theists.
 

danmand

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I am a non believer,... do not call me an atheist.

That said,... I think that atheists,... an outdated religious term,... are people who need the comradery, often resembling a religion, to help them with their doubts,... maybe they should be called anti-theists.
a·the·ist
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noun
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

I see no need for an organization; after-all we do not have an organization for people who do NOT believe the earth is flat.
 

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a·the·ist
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a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

I see no need for an organization; after-all we do not have an organization for people who do NOT believe the earth is flat.
Atheist,... an outdated religious term, for those who do not believe in the existence of God or gods.

And is not used by the government of Canada.

As far as a need for an Atheist organisation,... just as much as there is a need for a religious organization,... none.
 

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a·the·ist
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a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

I see no need for an organization; after-all we do not have an organization for people who do NOT believe the earth is flat.
The Atheist conference is set to happen after the conference for those who don't believe in Santa, then the Easter Bunny.
After that the basement hall is available.

I'll let CM know.
 

wigglee

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An atheists convention is like most Canada Man threads. Cancelled due to lack of relevence...
 

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This is going to ruin the atheist movement unless we atheists invent some kind of technology to magically transport packets of data containing; text, voice, images, and video, so that we can share our values with each other in some sort of virtual convention. If such a technology is invented it should be exclusive for atheists, because theists would see the absurdity of using science and math to communicate rather than the tried and true way of prayer, devine revelation, and conventions.
 

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I would think there'd be a similar lack of interest in any conference seeking content to discuss concerning 'beings' who have no actual importance, utility, entertainment value or any actual existence. Unless there was cosplay involved, as in official Christianity, or music as in symphonic Masses and Oratorios.
 

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Atheism shouldn't be a movement, just reality for people who don't feel the need for faith in a higher power.
Agreed,... those who "practise" Atheism,... are becoming not a lot different than the god believers,... if clubs and big box institutions are required to maintain the beliefs,... then neither has any right to exist.

The atheists are not helping their cause at all,... quite the opposite,...just drop the antiquated religious term,... which only serves to bring more attention god believers institutions.

Unless the world is overrun by Islam,... both sides, with their opposing stands on the god thing,... will eventually die off,... as they should.
 
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