I don't know, why don't you do some research and post those stats?
Or do you prefer that your opinion not to be based on facts.
Gun control
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Or do you prefer that your opinion not to be based on facts.
Nope, just trying to put the American-wannabes in their place.
I would also like to see the Super Bowl banned from Canadian airwaves, since NFL football is not part of our culture and is a sissy sport, but I'll save that for another day.
This whole new round of gun control is nothing more than an overreach by government and reading the comments of some, it proves that mainstream media and anti gun groups have won the day. They've removed a component from your brain for critical thinking and it also shows you lack any common sense, but that's a birth issue. The guns allocated for the buy back have been listed as "military" grade; Oops they've been banned since the 70s. Potential for mass casualty; Oops again, magazine capacity rules prevent this. Their cost estimate for the buy back; Ooops again, well, owners won't be paid what they're worth and remarkably, if every firearm was turned in, they don't even have the money allocated to even under pay. Just like the long gun registry costing was low, but ended up over a BILLION dollars.
This whole bill was a sham and public consultation with real professional opinions were ignored. But non professionals, with made up stats, and their feeling counted, where the people who were called upon to make this bill a reality.
That's in the past, this is the present and it's nice to see police forces and provinces like Alberta stepping up and saying they aren't participating. They know full well that this will do nothing to make the streets safer. police now report that the majority of the firearms seized are not the firearms allocated for this buy back (long guns), but rather handguns from the US. The number of guns they can't trace the origin of, one can conclude that they are of American origin too. The origin not being known is from grinding off the serial numbers, so well that even other technological investigative techniques don't work. Handguns in Canada have had very strict laws since the '30s and licenses for long guns have been around since the '80s. Besides the Montreal massacre, there have been no other massacres in Canada, by people who legally own firearms. The Nova Scotia massacre was not perpetrated by someone with a legally owned firearm, nor did that person even have a license to own one. He got his firearms from the States and he smuggled them into Canada. He was prohibited from having a license and from owning or possessing firearms. But this fit the liberal government narrative and they even made it a domestic partner issue too, because that helped their narrative. But I digress.
Our current firearms laws work. All firearms owners take a course, pass a test, then apply through the RCMP and are vetted to buy, own and possess a firearm in Canada. A partner/spouse is also consulted during this process. If a gun was stolen here, the police would know the type and if it was a handgun, they would know for certain, as an owner must declare this. So guns used in crime, their origin is 99.9% American. And any gun stolen here, is no longer legally owned.
The linking of what happens in the US to what happens here shows how social programming is working. News flash, we aren't the States. We have strong firearms laws here and they work. But, that's not what mainstream media and the liberals would have you believe. See, critical thinking skills eroded and as for common sense. Well...
Okay, so there's all of that, but did you know that everyday in Canada, there are literally hundreds of people on the road, in cities and towns that take firearms out and they go to gun ranges. Not one crime is committed by them. Not one robbery. Threat with said firearm. Not one shooting/killing. Amazing, right?
Oh wait, it gets better.
Every October and November, there are tens of thousands of firearms owners on the road and some are armed to the teeth, one might add, having several firearms in transport. To a lesser extent, one can include September and December. Once again, leaving from cities and towns. These guys and gals make several stops along the way, grabbing some groceries, beer, liquor, get gas or other items forgotten. They even stop to eat along the way and again, there isn't one crime committed by these people. Yeah, you read that correctly, not one crime. No shootings, robberies, killing. Crazy that!
While one might conclude that the liberals are placating the Quebec vote, with Poly SeSouvient and Nathalie Provost playing a huge role. The massacre, while horrific, also spawned the firearms laws that we have today, for long guns. Handgun laws have been around since the '30s remember. So something good, came from something bad and that's the Canadian way. Firearms owners don't bitch about the process, they abide by it. They take the mandated courses, tests and go through the license application system. Whether you're a hunter, collector or a target shooter, but there's something about this lates round, banning all handgun sales, an already heavily regulated firearm. To this new round of confiscation of long guns.
One has to wonder why the liberals would even go there?
That question provides provocative food for thought.
This whole bill was a sham and public consultation with real professional opinions were ignored. But non professionals, with made up stats, and their feeling counted, where the people who were called upon to make this bill a reality.
That's in the past, this is the present and it's nice to see police forces and provinces like Alberta stepping up and saying they aren't participating. They know full well that this will do nothing to make the streets safer. police now report that the majority of the firearms seized are not the firearms allocated for this buy back (long guns), but rather handguns from the US. The number of guns they can't trace the origin of, one can conclude that they are of American origin too. The origin not being known is from grinding off the serial numbers, so well that even other technological investigative techniques don't work. Handguns in Canada have had very strict laws since the '30s and licenses for long guns have been around since the '80s. Besides the Montreal massacre, there have been no other massacres in Canada, by people who legally own firearms. The Nova Scotia massacre was not perpetrated by someone with a legally owned firearm, nor did that person even have a license to own one. He got his firearms from the States and he smuggled them into Canada. He was prohibited from having a license and from owning or possessing firearms. But this fit the liberal government narrative and they even made it a domestic partner issue too, because that helped their narrative. But I digress.
Our current firearms laws work. All firearms owners take a course, pass a test, then apply through the RCMP and are vetted to buy, own and possess a firearm in Canada. A partner/spouse is also consulted during this process. If a gun was stolen here, the police would know the type and if it was a handgun, they would know for certain, as an owner must declare this. So guns used in crime, their origin is 99.9% American. And any gun stolen here, is no longer legally owned.
The linking of what happens in the US to what happens here shows how social programming is working. News flash, we aren't the States. We have strong firearms laws here and they work. But, that's not what mainstream media and the liberals would have you believe. See, critical thinking skills eroded and as for common sense. Well...
Okay, so there's all of that, but did you know that everyday in Canada, there are literally hundreds of people on the road, in cities and towns that take firearms out and they go to gun ranges. Not one crime is committed by them. Not one robbery. Threat with said firearm. Not one shooting/killing. Amazing, right?
Oh wait, it gets better.
Every October and November, there are tens of thousands of firearms owners on the road and some are armed to the teeth, one might add, having several firearms in transport. To a lesser extent, one can include September and December. Once again, leaving from cities and towns. These guys and gals make several stops along the way, grabbing some groceries, beer, liquor, get gas or other items forgotten. They even stop to eat along the way and again, there isn't one crime committed by these people. Yeah, you read that correctly, not one crime. No shootings, robberies, killing. Crazy that!
While one might conclude that the liberals are placating the Quebec vote, with Poly SeSouvient and Nathalie Provost playing a huge role. The massacre, while horrific, also spawned the firearms laws that we have today, for long guns. Handgun laws have been around since the '30s remember. So something good, came from something bad and that's the Canadian way. Firearms owners don't bitch about the process, they abide by it. They take the mandated courses, tests and go through the license application system. Whether you're a hunter, collector or a target shooter, but there's something about this lates round, banning all handgun sales, an already heavily regulated firearm. To this new round of confiscation of long guns.
One has to wonder why the liberals would even go there?
That question provides provocative food for thought.
Check out Australia. They have seen a decrease in firearms used in crimes year over year. They haven't had a serious mass shooting between Port Arthur and the Bondi Beach shooting. That was nearly 30 years.
Or Japan: They have very strict gun laws and have, maybe, 10 incidents on average per year.
Now, let's look at the UK, they don't have massive gun crime, and when they do, a shocking number or imitation weapons like AirSoft or BB guns.
All three of these examples are island nations.
Now, the issue is that Canada has a land borders with the biggest gun dealer on the planet. We could buy back all firearms, and there could still be a trickle of weapons smuggled up from the US, where gun laws are very lax (depending on where you go). But, making it harder to buy guns (both legal and illegal) means that gun crime is very low. And, while we see shocking incidents with shootings in Toronto, by and large gun crime is a fraction of a percent that it is in most major (and minor) US cities. For example, the city of Baltimore (with a population of around 568K) had 133 homicides in 2025 (and that includes guns, beatings, stabbings, stranglings, etc.). The city of Toronto (with a population of 3.2M, nearly six times of Baltimore) had 42 homicides in 2025. Which city has more guns do you think?
Sounds like we agree that borders need to be more secure, which again, is a separate issue from "buying back" firearms from licensed gun owners who clearly aren't supplying criminals with guns.
Imagine if that $800+ million dollars for the "buy back", which is mostly accounting for administrative costs, were used to strengthen the border instead. How many Border Services Officers could you hire and train with that money? The taxpayers aren't getting a great return-on-investment with this confiscation scheme.
You know, the funny thing about this is the actual start of the discussion was about doctors getting residency status quicker....It really wasn't about gun control, just bitching about the program. Which is hilarious on several levels.
