'Have a little class': Cherry to Ovechkin
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I used to like Cherry for many years... but now I'm tired and fed up with him.
Here's a guy who wears the most god awful clothes/hats/ties for only one reason... so everyone notices him. He wants to be the center of attention and yet he complains about Ovechkin.
Hockey needs some excitement and Ovechkin has proven for three consecutive years he can back it up. I don't think his intention was to embarass Tampa Bay... but simply to ensure some highlight film for the "homeland" when he scored his 50th.
If a guy scored his 7th goal of the season and did this... someone from his own team should go beat the crap out of him.
Here's a guy who wears the most god awful clothes/hats/ties for only one reason... so everyone notices him. He wants to be the center of attention and yet he complains about Ovechkin.
Hockey needs some excitement and Ovechkin has proven for three consecutive years he can back it up. I don't think his intention was to embarass Tampa Bay... but simply to ensure some highlight film for the "homeland" when he scored his 50th.
If a guy scored his 7th goal of the season and did this... someone from his own team should go beat the crap out of him.
Cherry was exactly right about Ovechkin. I think Alex went a little overboard this time. I think that Ovechkin is the greatest player in the game today and his enthusiasm is refreshing but that was just a little too much considering the goal was scored early in the game against a pathetic team and a rookie goalie. I think it would depend on the circumstances (maybe playing Pittsburgh and scoring the game winner).
ovechkin is still an immature kid and he acts like it, its easy to forget because he's the best hockey player the world, but that doesnt necessarily mean he is a mature adult....he acts like the child that he still is....he will grow out of it
Yeah, because Heaven forbid they actually have someone with charisma and enthusiasm playing hockey and showcasing the sport...ahahooper said:
I personally hope he NEVER "grows out of it."
Hockey at the NHL level is partly sport, partly entertainment and all business. If people are talking about Alex Ovechkin and that equates to him putting butts in the seats and eyes on the TVs because of his ability, passion, work ethic and showmanship, then he's doing his job. Just like Donald S. Cherry with his blend of xenophopia, idiocy, solid insight and love for the game. But of course only Grapes is allowed to "showboat" and make money off being flamboyant and controversial in hockey, that's it...
completely agree with you captain. i personally see nothing wrong with what ovechkin does, and dont see how it is a detriment to the game, a la Don Cherry.Captain Fantastic said:Yeah, because Heaven forbid they actually have someone with charisma and enthusiasm playing hockey and showcasing the sport...
I personally hope he NEVER "grows out of it."
Hockey at the NHL level is partly sport, partly entertainment and all business. If people are talking about Alex Ovechkin and that equates to him putting butts in the seats and eyes on the TVs because of his ability, passion, work ethic and showmanship, then he's doing his job. Just like Donald S. Cherry with his blend of xenophopia, idiocy, solid insight and love for the game. But of course only Grapes is allowed to "showboat" and make money off being flamboyant and controversial in hockey, that's it...
you can see the guy is very passionate about playing, and just loves to be out there. that is partly what i was trying to get at, in saying he acts like a child. just having fun.
i find it refreshing to see, in an otherwise gloomy, boring, uninteresting, befallen , post lockout NHL.
Grapes is right!!!!!! A player such as Ovechkin should show more class -restraint etc. and LEAD by example.
You never saw great players such as GRETZKY ORR LEMOUIX showboating like that.
I agree with Grapes on another thing re the Russian Rocket. Down the line someone-somewhere is going to NAIL him GOOD for all the showboating he's been doing. You don't have to rub a guys or team nose in it to be a great player.
You never saw great players such as GRETZKY ORR LEMOUIX showboating like that.
I agree with Grapes on another thing re the Russian Rocket. Down the line someone-somewhere is going to NAIL him GOOD for all the showboating he's been doing. You don't have to rub a guys or team nose in it to be a great player.
I love it. In the US, hockey is or was dieing a slow death and it needs some maketing and attention (other then the jackass Avery).
Good for Ovechkin. Bring some attention to one of the best sports in the world.
Good for Ovechkin. Bring some attention to one of the best sports in the world.
You're right. Canadian players would never do that stuff... Right Tiger??spankingman said:Grapes is right!!!!!! A player such as Ovechkin should show more class -restraint etc. and LEAD by example.
You never saw great players such as GRETZKY ORR LEMOUIX showboating like that.
I agree with Grapes on another thing re the Russian Rocket. Down the line someone-somewhere is going to NAIL him GOOD for all the showboating he's been doing. You don't have to rub a guys or team nose in it to be a great player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjbS-BFrFSA&feature=related
Not to mention, many say a play 'like Ovechkin' should not be doing stuff like this?? Who should; a player who doesn't have the talent to back it up? How much class would that show??
Cherry loves Tiger Williams who did his riding the stick thing early and often after every goal.
I think Cherry has a point in that it was a bit over the top but everything Ovechkin does is a little zany. The kid loves to play and loves to score and win. Was he a bit much on the 50th? Ya....but Cherry is a bit much every Saturday. I still like both of them.
I suspect if Don sat down with the kid over a few pops he might teach Alex a little about how he see's things and Don might understand this kid may be a Russian, but he has the grit and love for the game we like our Canadian stars to have. The Stoic Russian? Not Alex, and thank god for that!
I think Cherry has a point in that it was a bit over the top but everything Ovechkin does is a little zany. The kid loves to play and loves to score and win. Was he a bit much on the 50th? Ya....but Cherry is a bit much every Saturday. I still like both of them.
I suspect if Don sat down with the kid over a few pops he might teach Alex a little about how he see's things and Don might understand this kid may be a Russian, but he has the grit and love for the game we like our Canadian stars to have. The Stoic Russian? Not Alex, and thank god for that!
lawyerman said:
Well then tiger Williams must have gone overboard every goal. And I would bet Cherry would NEVER have told tiger willaims he is a tool. I dont hear of any tailors wanting to knock Cherrys block off for wearing such assinine suits. So it would be good if good ole Donny shut his trap too and just needle with maclean. Both should be put out to pature already.
People seem to believe Tiger did his 'ride the stick' routine after every goal, or at least several times after. He only did this one time, as referenced in this recent article and quoted by Tiger himself. Many will remember it happened at MLG and he was playing the the Vancouver Canucks.Bearlythere said:
http://www.thestar.com/printArticle/607178
IMO, the difference between AO and Tiger is this. Ovechkin is arguably the best player in the game. He scores many 'highlight reel' type goals. He is head and shoulders above many players in the game. Why does he feel he needs to bring more attention to himself, to embarrass the other team, their rookie goalie (who was maybe 15 feet away from him)? Opposing players know how great he is, they don't need him to remind them by showing them up and sticking it in their face.
OTOH, Tiger was short on hockey skills. He did it in the Gardens right after he was traded. It was more comical then anything. IMO there is a huge difference when the greatest player in the game rubs it in your face (with a self admitted 'staged performance') as opposed to a guy with marginal talent who scores a goal in his former hometown, in front of 16,000 of his adoring fans and spontaneously puts on a little show for them.
I don't think anyone is knocking AO for showing his passion for the game. We don't want this to be the No Fun League. But as the best player in the game, many of us feel there is no need to rub it in your opponents face.
Jesus, it's one staged performance from a guy who is arguably carrying the league on his shoulders right now. It's a business. Give the guy a break.
Will the NHL follow the NFL rule on "excessive" celebration? Didn't an NFL player spin the football and pull out his cellphone after one touchdown? BTW: If AO ever played against Dale Hunter I think he might think twice about showboating.
I love the way Ovechkin plays, he is a brilliant hockey player. However, Don Cherry is right, he has no class.
I don't buy the "it's good for the league" BS. Ovechkin's celebrations don't do anything for the league. The NHL would be better off with a player of Ovechkin's talent to have both brilliance and class.
Is it possible to have both?
enjoy;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSDw3tMa7ec&feature=related
I don't buy the "it's good for the league" BS. Ovechkin's celebrations don't do anything for the league. The NHL would be better off with a player of Ovechkin's talent to have both brilliance and class.
Is it possible to have both?
enjoy;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSDw3tMa7ec&feature=related
Just saw AO interviewed on TV. He said he will no longer discuss his celebrations. Feels that it distracts from the game and the actual goals. His celebrations were getting more media attention than his goals.
