How Things Change

Bagilson

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I started in the hobby in 86. This was pre cell phone and pre internet. You could pick up a nice girl, any time of day, over in the Church-Bloor-Jarvis-King block. My favourite was to pick up a girl from the corner near Filmores and head to a by the hour hotel over near King and Bay. The girls back then all had full bushes and absolutely every service was covered; No kissing, asking for anal would get you thrown out. Eating pussy and fingering weren’t fair game. It was very rare to get a rip off if you met a girl On the mid-rail (On Church or Dundas). I tried the high rail around Maple Leaf gardens a few times; those girls knew how to dress and looked great, but everything was about extracting max cash for min service. The girls on the mid rail didn’t dress as flashy, but were usually pretty and gave you the service you paid for without much drama.

I remember when I discovered Now and Eye magazine in the 90s. The pages and pages of ads at the back. I was just astounded at the idea that I could call anyone of those numbers and get a woman for sex. The ads were not explicit, usually just stated race, age, location and rates. Bushes were still the default style, absolutely every service was covered, at no time would your cum ever touch any part of the woman (no tit fucks, and hand jobs were aimed away from bare skin). Anal was a fetish offered by a few specialists. Kissing did not happen. Started to see the advent of women who would let you eat them. The majority of the women were white, the street scene was still lively. Shaved pussys were starting to appear, but we’re still a novelty. Asians started to appear in the ads, and were always the youngest, slimmest and hottest girls available. Massage parlours were just that, massage and hand job; maybe a little tit play if you were lucky. Advertising for MPs was discreet.

The early 2000s saw a winding down of the street trade as more women went to the internet; the ones left working the street were increasingly scary and old. Bushes gave way to Brazilians, and shaved pussys stopped being a novelty. Saw a large increase in the diversity of women; the hottest/youngest still tended to be asians. Saw a lot more massage parlours open up and advertising became a lot more direct; started to see a lot more MPs offer full service. Bare back blow jobs started to be offered, but cum never went into the mouth. Kissing started to happen, but only lightly, and only some girls. Anal started to be on some mainstream girls menus. Most girls would let you go down on them, and fingers started to be allowed.

The 2010s saw the end of the viable street trade with the arrival of Craigslist and iPhones. The girls left working the street were scary and sad; the last time I went looking on the street I ended up asking the girl how much she needed to make before she could just go home for the night. I gave her that much without asking for any services in return and then dropped her off at an place she said was her home. All pussys were shaved, except the asians. Started to see a large influx of foreign women, Eastern European, East Indian, Caribbean. Bare back blow jobs became the standard. The women were no longer adverse to cum; it went in mouths, often got swallowed, went on tits…pretty much anywhere you asked to shoot it. Not uncommon to have the forbidden bare back offered. Kissing started to become standard, anal not so much. Eating pussy became standard. Fingering was standard among the Eastern European women, but not so much among the asians Advertising was direct, massage parlours were everywhere and they were all offering full servicing. Women were generally not larger. It became difficult to find a young, thin white woman in the mid price range; I ended up switching to asians because they seemed to be the best bet for finding a woman my age or younger who hadn’t had a few kids already.

Skip ahead to today, trimmed bush seems to be the default. Advertising is much more direct; to the point we’re the ads say exactly what bare services are available. Deep kissing is on the menu, (which I tend not to do given that cum in mouth now tends to be the industry standard). Anal can be had easily. Fingering seems to be available about 50% of the time. We seem to have fewer massage parlours than a decade ago. Ironically, my search for young slender women, which lead me to my preference for asians, has now come to bite me in the ass; I haven’t found a decent slender young Asian in either an MP or as an escort in about 3 years. It seems that the young and slender trend has switched back to white women.

Well, that’s 35 years of hobbying summed up in a couple of paragraphs. Can’t say I saw similar trends in my civilian love life. All the civilian women I’ve had sex with were white (mind you I did get to the fingering titty sucking stage with a Chinese girl back in university; she came and when I asked her to return the favour with a hand job she suddenly got shy.). They all had bushes of some sort, all did everything bare at some point and about three quarters of them liked anal.
 

anonemouse

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Awesome summary!

I've been on here off and on for almost 20 years. I started on here because of the Eye/Now ads. It wasn't much to go on: race and location. That's pretty much it. It was very, very hit or miss. If you found someone you liked, they would keep the same number for a long time usually so it was easier to keep in touch. When I first started, Terb was a godsend as people would routinely TOFFT and give feedback on here.

Do you think the whole situation is better now, or worse?
 

unassuming

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I started the hobby in 1980. My first SP was a street walker that I picked up from the "Track". She gave me a BBJ in the washroom of a nearby small hotel, the "Selby". I didn't know the protocol regarding a BBBJ, I came in her mouth, she pulled off immediately and I apologized. I did repeat with her a few times . From then on I was hooked on this scene, at least once a week I would drive and cruise the track , was always nervous about LE, never got busted though.
Although covered BJ was the norm, I did get my fair share of BBBJ. There was this facially stunning hooker that would do CIM in a parking lot stairwellI, between clients she would go into a house across the street to brush her teeth and rinse with Listerine. I always used a condom for vaginal sex.
The "Track" was a sight to see, especially on the weekends- the "Hooker Harveys"!!!!

Then the agencies started to pop up in the 90's. I abandoned the street scene and from then on used agencies. Service began to open up, I received DFK, BBBJ from most of these SPs., and sometimes CIMSW.

The 2000's saw more and more europeans at the agencies and I believed they started doing the BBBJ and eventually the CIMSW.
 
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Nickelodeon

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Don't forget the Yellow Pages, filled with ads by Escort Agencies in the 90's, until YP was no longer relevant. My first SP experience was an Agency outcall when I stayed in a local hotel for a convention. The agency would ask for your room number and call you back to confirm location. I fondly remember the promises made by these ads, eg. Asian, Mature, College girls. Truth in advertising was not big in these ads.
 

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I started in the hobby in 86. This was pre cell phone and pre internet. You could pick up a nice girl, any time of day, over in the Church-Bloor-Jarvis-King block. My favourite was to pick up a girl from the corner near Filmores and head to a by the hour hotel over near King and Bay. The girls back then all had full bushes and absolutely every service was covered; No kissing, asking for anal would get you thrown out. Eating pussy and fingering weren’t fair game. It was very rare to get a rip off if you met a girl On the mid-rail (On Church or Dundas). I tried the high rail around Maple Leaf gardens a few times; those girls knew how to dress and looked great, but everything was about extracting max cash for min service. The girls on the mid rail didn’t dress as flashy, but were usually pretty and gave you the service you paid for without much drama.

I remember when I discovered Now and Eye magazine in the 90s. The pages and pages of ads at the back. I was just astounded at the idea that I could call anyone of those numbers and get a woman for sex. The ads were not explicit, usually just stated race, age, location and rates. Bushes were still the default style, absolutely every service was covered, at no time would your cum ever touch any part of the woman (no tit fucks, and hand jobs were aimed away from bare skin). Anal was a fetish offered by a few specialists. Kissing did not happen. Started to see the advent of women who would let you eat them. The majority of the women were white, the street scene was still lively. Shaved pussys were starting to appear, but we’re still a novelty. Asians started to appear in the ads, and were always the youngest, slimmest and hottest girls available. Massage parlours were just that, massage and hand job; maybe a little tit play if you were lucky. Advertising for MPs was discreet.

The early 2000s saw a winding down of the street trade as more women went to the internet; the ones left working the street were increasingly scary and old. Bushes gave way to Brazilians, and shaved pussys stopped being a novelty. Saw a large increase in the diversity of women; the hottest/youngest still tended to be asians. Saw a lot more massage parlours open up and advertising became a lot more direct; started to see a lot more MPs offer full service. Bare back blow jobs started to be offered, but cum never went into the mouth. Kissing started to happen, but only lightly, and only some girls. Anal started to be on some mainstream girls menus. Most girls would let you go down on them, and fingers started to be allowed.

The 2010s saw the end of the viable street trade with the arrival of Craigslist and iPhones. The girls left working the street were scary and sad; the last time I went looking on the street I ended up asking the girl how much she needed to make before she could just go home for the night. I gave her that much without asking for any services in return and then dropped her off at an place she said was her home. All pussys were shaved, except the asians. Started to see a large influx of foreign women, Eastern European, East Indian, Caribbean. Bare back blow jobs became the standard. The women were no longer adverse to cum; it went in mouths, often got swallowed, went on tits…pretty much anywhere you asked to shoot it. Not uncommon to have the forbidden bare back offered. Kissing started to become standard, anal not so much. Eating pussy became standard. Fingering was standard among the Eastern European women, but not so much among the asians Advertising was direct, massage parlours were everywhere and they were all offering full servicing. Women were generally not larger. It became difficult to find a young, thin white woman in the mid price range; I ended up switching to asians because they seemed to be the best bet for finding a woman my age or younger who hadn’t had a few kids already.

Skip ahead to today, trimmed bush seems to be the default. Advertising is much more direct; to the point we’re the ads say exactly what bare services are available. Deep kissing is on the menu, (which I tend not to do given that cum in mouth now tends to be the industry standard). Anal can be had easily. Fingering seems to be available about 50% of the time. We seem to have fewer massage parlours than a decade ago. Ironically, my search for young slender women, which lead me to my preference for asians, has now come to bite me in the ass; I haven’t found a decent slender young Asian in either an MP or as an escort in about 3 years. It seems that the young and slender trend has switched back to white women.

Well, that’s 35 years of hobbying summed up in a couple of paragraphs. Can’t say I saw similar trends in my civilian love life. All the civilian women I’ve had sex with were white (mind you I did get to the fingering titty sucking stage with a Chinese girl back in university; she came and when I asked her to return the favour with a hand job she suddenly got shy.). They all had bushes of some sort, all did everything bare at some point and about three quarters of them liked anal.
Sounds like we've had much the same observations. I don't think I could have said it better. Thanks👍
 
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