HPV Oral Cancer
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I was really surprised by this. It doesn't say it in the linked article, but in other articles on the same study, doctors are predicting that the number of HPV-related male oral cancers will exceed the number of cases of cervical cancer in women by 2018 or 2020. As this article points out, likely due to increased rates of oral sex (DATY).
Clearly those of us who are having DATY with significant numbers of women are at a higher risk than we used to think. And we're obviously not getting an equivalent of an oral pap every year. So it's worthwhile pressing your doctor for one of the two HPV vaccines. Especially if you're under 35, because most doctors won't prescribe it to men over 35 due to lack of Health Canada approval.
Clearly those of us who are having DATY with significant numbers of women are at a higher risk than we used to think. And we're obviously not getting an equivalent of an oral pap every year. So it's worthwhile pressing your doctor for one of the two HPV vaccines. Especially if you're under 35, because most doctors won't prescribe it to men over 35 due to lack of Health Canada approval.
I was surprised too. However, oral cancer takes 20-30 years to develop and that is why we are seeing so much of it now.I was really surprised by this.
“We’re talking about the downstream consequences of an infection that takes 20 to 30 years to happen."
"The fact that we’re seeing these things now is a reflection of ... the changes in sexual mores of the ’60s and ’70s, which eventually brought oral sex to be part of people’s lives,”
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/10/19/hpv-related-oral-cancer-rises-in-men-study.html
Whew, it's a good thing I read up on this and got vaccinated before becoming sexually active. Now my immune system will be better prepared.
And upon digging into some of the scientific literature, it really baffles me that it's taken so long for governments to start rolling out the HPV vaccine programs to boys as well. It just doesn't make sense to administer a vaccine to half of a population when the virus affects the entire population.
And upon digging into some of the scientific literature, it really baffles me that it's taken so long for governments to start rolling out the HPV vaccine programs to boys as well. It just doesn't make sense to administer a vaccine to half of a population when the virus affects the entire population.
I think the delay is because cervical cancer was identified as an HPV risk way before the oral cancer risk in males was identified. The tragedy is that something one did 20-30 years ago could be the cause of oral cancer to-day.it really baffles me that it's taken so long for governments to start rolling out the HPV vaccine programs to boys as well.
How much 400 ?Whew, it's a good thing I read up on this and got vaccinated before becoming sexually active. Now my immune system will be better prepared.
And upon digging into some of the scientific literature, it really baffles me that it's taken so long for governments to start rolling out the HPV vaccine programs to boys as well. It just doesn't make sense to administer a vaccine to half of a population when the virus affects the entire population.
For those of us who have young kids, it's free for Grade 7.How much 400 ?
"Currently, the HPV vaccine is offered free of charge in Ontarioschools to girls in Grade 8. Under the expanded program, the province will start offering the vaccine to all students in Grade 7.Apr 21, 2016"
Not sure how much it cost for the rest of us. The big concern is that one might get oral cancer now for something done 20-30 years ago. Is the vaccine retroactive?
If men could only get it by oral sex, then vaccinating boys implies that they are sexually active. I'm some are, but parents will be in an uproar over the implications. Parents were already protesting changes in the sex-ed curriculum.Whew, it's a good thing I read up on this and got vaccinated before becoming sexually active. Now my immune system will be better prepared.
And upon digging into some of the scientific literature, it really baffles me that it's taken so long for governments to start rolling out the HPV vaccine programs to boys as well. It just doesn't make sense to administer a vaccine to half of a population when the virus affects the entire population.
Not necessarily. Apparently, the vaccine works best when administered at a younger age.then vaccinating boys implies that they are sexually active.
[h=2]Why start so young?[/h]"The physical response to a new immunity is "fantastic" in the "crucial years of 10, 11 and 12" in both girls and boys, Franco said.""Their immune systems respond very strongly and they respond for life," he said." Not sure how effective the vaccine is for a 30 or 40 year old or older.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/hpv-vaccine-the-growing-campaign-for-including-boys-1.3127916
The latest vaccine (Gardasil 9) will set you back $600 (3 doses at $200 each). However, you may be able to get coverage through private insurance from your work. I was able to get coverage through one of my parents' insurance (still under 25 years & a student).How much 400 ?
No. If you have already been infected with a strain of HPV, the vaccine cannot remove that strain. However, the vaccine can protect you from strains of the virus that your body has not yet encountered. So I would still recommend getting the vaccine if you can afford it, but the level of protection provided to you will be reduced by a decent amount.Is the vaccine retroactive?
Wrong. The reason for vaccinating boys (just like the already-existing program for girls) at such a young age is because the vast majority of them will not yet be sexually active. The idea is to inoculate people before they are exposed to any strain of the virus. Sure, some parents may be uncomfortable with having their 12-year-old child get a vaccine protecting against an STI, but they need to be realistic and understand the practical inevitability that their child will grow up and have sex at some point in the future.... vaccinating boys implies that they are sexually active.
Also, ditto everything SkyRider said in response.
Any "uproar" against the expansion of the HPV vaccine program in Ontario would likely have already occurred. The expansion was announced back in June and is being rolled-out this year. Furthermore, the only parents that were protesting changes in the sex-ed curriculum are people who think the earth is less than 10,000 years old. Those kinds of people are not useful references when engaging in a discussion surrounding science and public health.... but parents will be in an uproar over the implications. Parents were already protesting changes in the sex-ed curriculum.
It's too bad that Ontario is only funding Gardasil-4 for students, rather than the newer Gardasil-9. The latter targets more cancer-causing strains.
Val Kilmer denies he has throat/tongue cancer.Be careful where you stick your tongue.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-gardiner-expressway-woman-dead-1.3828808
