Hurricane Kenneth

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With all the problems on the gulf coast there has been very little talk about the Cat 2 Hurricane "Kenneth" that will hit the Hawaiian Islands by this Friday or Saturday. Typically called cyclones in the Pacific Ocean "Kenneth" formed off the Mexican coast a week ago and has been travelling steadily west toward Hawaii. I wonder if the Americans are prepared for this one - or if they even care. By the lack of TV exposure I don't think they do.
 

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dj1470 said:
With all the problems on the gulf coast there has been very little talk about the Cat 2 Hurricane "Kenneth" that will hit the Hawaiian Islands by this Friday or Saturday. Typically called cyclones in the Pacific Ocean "Kenneth" formed off the Mexican coast a week ago and has been travelling steadily west toward Hawaii. I wonder if the Americans are prepared for this one - or if they even care. By the lack of TV exposure I don't think they do.
Kenneth will be a Tropical Depression by the time is hits the Hawiian Island chain. The storms off the west cost seldom hit land and don't sustain very long in the colder Pacific waters as they move away from the Mexican coast line.

But you are right, I doubt the US could tolerate another storm right away. The only thing in the Southern US favour is the fact emergency people and supplies are already in the area cutting down on response times.

It makes the next 10-12 days even more interesting considering there are 3 tropical waves heading into the Lower Atlantic and Caribeaan sea in the next few days. 2 of these waves are considered to be very large. Unfortunately it appears the hurricane season is going to get worse before it gets better. More than likely a rough ride before the season ends Nov 30.

Weather may well continue to be the major news in the US for some time to come.
 

Kommander1975

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Why don't hurricanes ever hit the California coast? A few years back one huricane threatened Los Angeles if I recall. Mexico's pacific coast gets battered by hurricanes many more times than it's atlantic coast..... weird.
 

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Why don't hurricanes ever hit the California coast? A few years back one huricane threatened Los Angeles if I recall. Mexico's pacific coast gets battered by hurricanes many more times than it's atlantic coast..... weird.
They get tropical storm winds in the Hawaiia chain imore than hurricane...it's the laws of physics...

The wall is spinning in the opposite direction of gravity. But as it heads out to the Pacific it encounters cool water lessening the chance of hurricane force winds striking land.

The problem comes when pieces of the storm system break off..and loop back over warm water as the system you mentioned did. You will see West coast storms down in the Mexican Penninsula looping back to land in some cases.

Again when coming ahsore they are most often tropical storm stength to Cat 2. Dangerous, but not considered catostrphic. Enough to disprupt life, but usually not enough to take life in mass terms.

This again is the phenomenon of tropical waves from Africa looping through the channels and showing up on the West side of the US/Mexican coast.\

They meet friendly conditions and form as a storm in warm waters. Many looping through after being hurricanes in the gulf. Next week we may well see a hurricane warning on the West coast from a new storm.

Some of the energy continues in a forward motion under surface water...and ends up making the loop around the continents.

As for the Hawain chain..they are simply to far away to feel a hurricane wind from the coast of Mexico about 99% of the time. Too much distance over cooler water to remain an intense storm.

There will always be aberations in this basic outlook, but, thats pretty much how it goes. There have been hundreds of hurricanes form off the west coast without any damage to inland or island sites. They are named due to their strength. It's mostly for offshore drilling and sea navigation that these storms are tracked.

I would have to check, but I cannot remember a storm hitting the California coast or Hawiian Island chain with huirricane status. It's been a while since that occured. It of course can happen...it justs an extrordinay circumstance.
 

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What about hurricane "Fifi" and "Mitch" hitting Central America? Fifi slammed C.A. from the pacific coast I think.
 

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Yes they did...but if you examine the data they were loop back systems that stayed in the warm waters off the coast of Mexico.

Very few tropical waves survive to hit coastal areas as the origninal storm. It's usually a loop back system of lesser intensity.

The western US has not seen a cat 3-5 in many years, nor have the island chains. And that is a blessing.
 

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If you'll recall during the last active "El Nino", there was a more active season in the Pacific with a number of storms hitting Central America from the west. During the year, the number of hurricanes that hit the Gulf coast and FLA dropped to near zero. Some so-called "Experts" claimed that due to global warming, the number of hurricanes hitting the US from the Gulf of Mexico would drop appreciably. We've had near normal water temperatures in the Pacific over the last 4-5 years. El Nino's and La Nina's greatly affect the weather over much of North America and they seem to have a major impact on the number of hurricanes that develop.
 

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Four days ago there were 3 tropical depressions spinning in the Pacific between Baha and Hawaii. It was quite the picture on the airline wind swath chart that I saw. The 3 were all linked up one beside the other for hundreds of miles. The Hurricane Centre in the US has "Kenneth" now as a Cat 1 with 70-80 mph winds about three days from Hawaii with a 50-60% chance of hitting the island chain. By the time it would hit Hawaii though it would be a tropical storm with 50-60 mph winds maybe a little less.
 

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MarkII said:
They get tropical storm winds in the Hawaiia chain imore than hurricane...it's the laws of physics...

The wall is spinning in the opposite direction of gravity.
LMFAO !

You know nothing about physics. Gravity is up and down. The wall spins perpendicular to it whether it be clockwise or counter-clockwise.
 

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joebear said:
LMFAO !

You know nothing about physics. Gravity is up and down. The wall spins perpendicular to it whether it be clockwise or counter-clockwise.
I was quoting info from the National Hurricane Centre. I don't consider my self perfect so there is a chance I've stated it wrong. Feel better now?
 

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MarkII said:
I was quoting info from the National Hurricane Centre. I don't consider my self perfect so there is a chance I've stated it wrong. Feel better now?

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