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I just came across this recently. Keep in mind that the writer is an Arab-Muslim. These are his words.

I will wait for the onslaught.








It's a good thing we're here!
If the Muslim extremists have their way, the world will lose out!

>
> By: Dr Farrukh Saleem.
> The writer is an Islamabad-based freelance columnist
>
> Why are Jews so powerful?
> There are only 14 million Jews in the world - seven
> million in he Americas, five million in Asia, two million
> in Europe and 100,000 in Africa. For every single Jew in
> the world there are 100 Muslims.
> Yet, Jews are more than a hundred times more powerful than
> all the Muslims put together. Ever wondered why?
>
> Jesus of Nazareth was Jewish. Albert Einstein, the most
> influential scientist of all time and TIME magazine's
> 'Person of the Century', was a Jew. Sigmund Freud
> -- id, ego, superego -- the father of psychoanalysis was a
> Jew. So were Karl Marx, Paul Samuelson and Milton Friedman.
>
> Here are a few other Jews whose intellectual output has
> enriched the whole humanity:
> Benjamin Rubin gave humanity the vaccinating needle.
> Jonas Salk developed the first polio vaccine.
> Albert Sabin developed the improved live polio vaccine.
> Gertrude Elion gave us a leukemia fighting drug.
> Baruch Blumberg developed the vaccination for Hepatitis B.
> Paul Ehrlich discovered a treatment for syphilis (a
> sexually transmitted disease).
> Elie Metchnikoff won a Nobel Prize in infectious diseases.
> Bernard Katz won a Nobel Prize in neuromuscular
> transmission.
> Andrew Schally won a Nobel in endocrinology (disorders of
> the endocrine system; diabetes, hyperthyroidism) .
> Aaron Beck founded Cognitive Therapy (psychotherapy to
> treat mental disorders, depression and phobias).
> Gregory Pincus developed the first oral contraceptive
> pill.
> George Wald won a Nobel for furthering our understanding of
> the human eye.
> Stanley Cohen won a Nobel in embryology (study of emb ryos
> and their development) .
>
> Willem Kolff came up with the kidney dialysis machine.
>
> Over the past 105 years, 14 million Jews have won 15-dozen
> Nobel Prizes while only three Nobel Prizes have been won by
> 1.4 billion Muslims (other than Peace Prizes).
>
> Why are Jews so powerful?
> Stanley Mezor invented the first micro-processing chip.
> Leo Szilard developed the first nuclear chain reactor;
> Peter Schultz, optical fibre cable;
> Charles Adler, traffic lights;
> Benno Strauss, Stainless steel;
> Isador Kisee, sound movies;
> Emile Berliner, telephone microphone;
> Charles Ginsburg, videotape recorder.
> Famous financiers in the business world who belong to
> Jewish faith include Ralph Lauren (Polo), Levis Strauss
> (Levi's Jeans), Howard Schultz (Starbuck's) , Sergey
> Brin (Google), Michael Dell (Dell Computers), Larry Ellison
> (Oracle), Donna Karan (DKNY), Irv Robbins (Baskins &
> Robbins) and Bill Rosenberg (Dunkin Donuts).
>
> Richard Levin, President of Yale University, is a Jew. So
> are Henry Kissinger (former American secretary of state),
> Alan Greenspan (Fed chairman under Reagan, Bush, Clinton
> and Bush), Joseph Lieberman, Madeleine Albright (American
> secretary of state), Casper Weinberger (American secretary
> of defense), Maxim Litvinov ( USSR foreign Minister), David
> Marshal ( Singapore 's first chief minister), Issac
> Isaacs (governor-general of Australia ), Benjamin Disraeli
> (British statesman and author), Yevgeny Primakov (Russian
> PM), Barry Goldwater, Jorge Sampaio (president of Portugal
> ),John Deutsch (CIA director), Herb Gray (Canadian deputy
> PM), Pierre Mendes (French PM), Michael Howard (British
> home secretary), Bruno Kreisky (chancellor of Austria ) and
> Robert Rubin (American secretary of treasury).
>
> In the media, famous Jews include Wolf Blitzer (CNN),
> Barbara Walters (ABC News), Eugene Meyer (Washington Post),
> Henry Grunwald (editor-in-chief Time), Katherine Graham
> (publisher of The Washington Post), Joseph Lelyyeld
> (Executive editor, The New York Times), and Max Frankel (New
> York Times).
>
> Can you name the most beneficent philanthropist in the
> history of the world? The name is George Soros, a Jew, who
> has so far donated a colossal $4 billion, most of which has
> gone as aid to scientists and universities around the
> world. Second to George Soros is Walter Annenberg, another
> Jew, who has built a hundred libraries by donating an
> estimated $2 billion.
> At the Olympics, Mark Spitz set a record of sorts by
> winning seven gold medals. Lenny Krayzelburg is a three-time
> Olympic gold medalist. Spitz, Krayzelburg and Boris Becker
> are all Jewish.
>
> To be certain, Washington is the capital that matters and
> in Washington the lobby that matters is The American Israel
> Public Affairs Committee, or AIPAC. Washington knows that
> if PM Ehud Olmert were to discover that the earth is flat,
> AIPAC will make the 109th Congress pass a resolution
> congratulating Olmert on his discovery.
>
> William James Sidis, with an IQ of 250-300, is the
> brightest human who ever existed. Guess what faith did he
> belongs to?
>
> So, why are Jews so powerful?
>
> Answer: Education.
>
> Why are Muslims so powerless? There are an estimated
> 1,476,233,470 Muslims on the face of the planet: one
> billion in Asia, 400 million in Africa, 44 million in
> Europe and six million in the Americas . Every fifth human
> being is a Muslim; for every single Hindu there are two
> Muslims, for every Buddhist there are two Muslims and for
> every Jew there are over one hundred Muslims. Ever wondered
> why Muslims are so powerless?
>
> Here is why: There are 57 member-countries of the
> Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC), and all of them
> put together have around 500 Universities; one university
> for every three million Muslims. The United States has 5,758
> universities and India has 8,407. In 2004, Shanghai Jiao
> Tong University compiled an 'Academic Ranking of World
> Universities' , and intriguingly, not one university
> from Muslim-majority states was in the top-500.
>
> As per data collected by the UNDP, literacy in the
> Christian world stands at nearly 90 per cent and 15
> Christian-majority states have a literacy rate of 100 per
> cent. A Muslim-majority state, as a sharp contrast, has an
> average literacy rate of around 40 per cent and there is no
> Muslim-majority state with a literacy rate of 100 per cent.
> Some 98 per cent of the 'literates' in the Christian
> world had completed primary school, while less than 50 per
> cent of the 'literates' in the Muslim world did the
> same. Around 40 per cent of the 'literates' in the
> Christian world attended university while no more than two
> per cent of the 'literates' in the Muslim world did
> the same.
>
> Muslim-majority countries have 230 scientists per one
> million Muslims. The US has 4,000 scientists per million
> and Japan has 5,000 per million. In the entire Arab world,
> the total number of full-time researchers is 35,000 and
> there are only 50 technicians per one million Arabs (in the
> Christian world there are up to 1,000 technicians per one
> million). Further, the Muslim world spends 0.2 per cent of
> its GDP on research and development, while the Christian
> world spends around five per cent of its GDP.
> Conclusion: The Muslim world lacks the capacity to produce
> knowledge.
>
> Daily newspapers per 1,000 people and number of book
> titles per million are two indicators of whether knowledge
> is being diffused in a society. In Pakistan , there are 23
> daily newspapers per 1,000 Pakistanis while the same ratio
> in Singapore is 360. In the UK , the number of book titles
> per million stands at 2,000 while the same in Egypt is 20.
>
> Conclusion: The Muslim world is failing to diffuse
> knowledge.
>
> Exports of high technology products as a percentage of
> total exports are an important indicator of knowledge
> application. Pakistan 's export of high technology
> products as a percentage of total exports stands at one per
> cent. The same for Saudi Arabia is 0.3 per cent; Kuwait,
> Morocco, and Algeria are all at 0.3 per cent while
> Singapore is at 58 per cent.
>
> Conclusion: The Muslim world is failing to apply
> knowledge.
>
> Why are Muslims powerless? Because we aren't producing
> knowledge.
>
> Why are Muslims powerless? Because we aren't diffusing
> knowledge.
>
> Why are Muslims powerless? Because we aren't applying
> knowledge.
>
> And, the future belongs to knowledge-based societies.
>
> Interestingly, the combined annual GDP of 57 OIC-countries
> is under $2 trillion. America, just by herself, produces
> goods and services worth $12 trillion; China $8 trillion,
> Japan $3.8 trillion and Germany $2.4 trillion (purchasing
> power parity basis).
>
> Oil rich Saudi Arabia , UAE, Kuwait and Qatar collectively
> produce goods and services (mostly oil) worth $500 billion;
> Spain alone produces goods and services worth over $1
> trillion, Catholic Poland $489 billion and Buddhist
> Thailand $545 billion. (Muslim GDP as a percentage of world
> GDP is fast declining).
>
> So, why are Muslims so powerless? Answer: Lack of
> education.
>
> All we do is shout to Allah the whole day and blame
> everyone else for our multiple failures.
 

zaig

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I forgot to mention that the writer is incorrect about a few people he named. Either they are not Jewish, or were born Jewish, but never considered themselves Jewish. Perfect example of being either born Jewish or having Jewish parents are Benjamin Disraeli, Barry Goldwater, and Karl Marx.
There are probably a few more, but you get the drift I think.

I also forgot to mention, that any idiot can cut and paste, hint hint
 

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Although he has many valid points, he fails to mention that ME civilization kept on flourishing spanning more than a thousand years when west was in darkages.
details are here..read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age


Then he also fails to examine the Causes of the Decline
so I recommend these readings ...

-Great divergence and European miracle
-Islamic science: Decline
-George Sarton , The Incubation of Western Culture in the Middle East..
-Decline Of Islamic Civilizations - Causes - Time For A New Paradigm By Mirza A. Beg

i.e......
http://www.countercurrents.org/beg-250706.htm
Decline of Islamic civilization:
Contrary to the popular belief that Islamic civilizations declined because of the rise of the west, a case can be made that it was partly the decline of the Islamic civilization that gave impetus to the unchallenged rise of the West.

The golden age of Islam, particularly the scientific pursuits that required greater stability in the Arab heartland declined by the 12th century and came to end in 1258 CE after the brutal Mongol invasion. Though the Mongol conquers adopted Islam within fifty years, their ruling methods were tribal. With the vast destruction of manuscripts and libraries....The advent of the wider use of gun powder gave impetus to the expansion of the new Muslim powers especially the Safvids in Iran, Mughals in India and the Ottoman Turks in Asia Minor, Balkans and North Africa. They had quite liberal and tolerant rulers ushering an era of conquest, expansion and great civilizations. After reaching their zenith in 16th and 17th centuries, by the beginning of 18th century these great empires were spent and in decline. The European colonization of the Muslim lands started in mid 18th century.

The great Muslim tradition of scholarship in philosophy and sciences were in decline by the dawn of the 14th century. About this time the Europeans had started translations of the knowledge accrued and built upon by the Muslim scholars. Though in 15th and 16th century Europe was still in religious straight jacket it had started a gradual pushing back against the stranglehold of the unitary Catholic Church. The freedom of thought gradually gained ground in 18th century with what has come to be known as the age of reason. With this came unleashing of sciences, leading to better technology and start of colonial expansion. By mid 19th century the Industrial revolution had taken hold, particularly the war technology and exploration leading to world dominance and colonialism. The colonialism and the ascendance of the west were in part caused by the weakness in Islamic societies...
 
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There aren't too many decorated Jewish athletes but lets not forget the influential Jewish financiers

The Rothschild Family
Marcus Goldman (Goldman Sachs)
Lehman Bros.

Not to mention the influential Jewish lawyers and judges
Louis Brandeis (Supreme Court justice)
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (Supreme Court justice)
Arthur Goldberg (Supreme Court justice)
Alan Dershowitz
Samuel Leibowitz
Robert Shapiro
Marcia Clark
Edward Levi
Ed Koch (former mayor of NYC)
 

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zaig said:
I forgot to mention that the writer is incorrect about a few people he named.
I was very surprised to see Boris Becker on the list. He looks so "Aryan".
 

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zaig said:
Keep in mind that the writer is an Arab-Muslim. These are his words. I will wait for the onslaught.
Oh my goodness. This will touch a nerve. The writer is probably factually correct but that doesn't matter in our society because it is socially unacceptable and politically incorrect to say that any particular ethic group (other than white people) is inferior in any respect. The onslaught will begin from the usual suspects.
 

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persis said:
Although he has many valid points, he fails to mention that ME civilization kept on flourishing spanning more than a thousand years when west was in darkages.
That's all well and good. But, the author's point isn't that there were great educational centers in the Islamic world in 1100 A.D. rather his point is what he sees as the problem in the Islamic World in 2009 A.D.
 

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Isn't curbbing the the flow of knowledge a byproduct of all religion? It's just a question of how powerful the religion happens to be in any particular country. Without seperation of church and state in the US do you think evolution or creationism would be taught?
 

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Isn't curbbing the the flow of knowledge a byproduct of all religion? It's just a question of how powerful the religion happens to be in any particular country. Without seperation of church and state in the US do you think evolution or creationism would be taught?
Ooops...could this relate to zionism being taught in synagogues and embraced as the day to day ideology of the Israeli government?
 

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I agree with the article, not new to me as I discussed this many years ago with Muslims and Jews in a civil manner and we all agreed.

When one can not compete on an intellectual level they resort to violence as their competitive nature. This is applicable on many levels, including on an individual basis.
 

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Mia.Colpa said:
I agree with the article, not new to me as I discussed this many years ago with Muslims and Jews in a civil manner and we all agreed.

When one can not compete on an intellectual level they resort to violence as their competitive nature. This is applicable on many levels, including on an individual basis.
True... it is also the matter of corruption, a handful of Arab families are enjoying all the oil money..leaving the rest of 300 mil population in desperate situation...

One should ask the puppets Jordanian King & the Egyptian president or the the members of royal family in Saudi Arabia

After having all these massive oil money what have you got to show for it?...

How is it that to nail a screw into the wall, you need to go out and buy the hammer [from West ]...?!
It is really shameful..
 

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persis said:
Although he has many valid points, he fails to mention that ME civilization kept on flourishing spanning more than a thousand years when west was in darkages.
Sure, and gave us things like algebra, and arabic numbers, and lots more.

However it's a valid point TODAY: The problems faced by Muslim nations TODAY are the result of their own failures in many aspects of life--education being an important one. Human rights would be #2 on my list as a broad term covering everything from women's rights to public participation in government.

The only "education" that is valued in the Islamic world today is study of the koran.
 

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fuji said:
Sure, and gave us things like algebra, and arabic numbers, and lots more.

However it's a valid point TODAY: The problems faced by Muslim nations TODAY are the result of their own failures in many aspects of life--education being an important one. Human rights would be #2 on my list as a broad term covering everything from women's rights to public participation in government.

The only "education" that is valued in the Islamic world today is study of the koran.
Not in Iran....
and that is what I have been trying to point out in many of my threads...yet it seems for many, all they do, mock or ignore ..
 

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persis said:
Not in Iran....
and that is what I have been trying to point out in many of my threads...yet it seems for many, all they do, mock or ignore ..
Funny but the list of the top 500 universities in the world does not include even a single one from Iran.

Israel, meanwhile, has seven on the list, while Canada has 23.

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005TOP500list.htm
 

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fuji said:
Funny but the list of the top 500 universities in the world does not include even a single one from Iran.

Israel, meanwhile, has seven on the list, while Canada has 23.

http://ed.sjtu.edu.cn/rank/2005/ARWU2005TOP500list.htm
Oh come on...save this BS of Iran bashing..aren't you tired of it?

FYI...Stanford's electrical engineering PHD entrance exam is constantly aced by Sharif University grads is a better indication of Iranian education system than the BS list of university rankings developed base on quantitative measures i.e. number of programs, scholars, research centers...etc...

i.e...in terms of academic excellence, the GPA of admitted students, the quality of faculty and alumni and the national and worldwide reputation, Sharif University of Technology is the most prestigious Iranian engineering school and is sometimes referred to as the MIT of Iran. Sharif University appears in the Times Higher Education World Universities of 2008

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharif_University

Sharif University: International recognition

Sharif University has been noted beyond the borders of Iran. The chair of Electrical Engineering Department of Stanford University has announced that: "Without a doubt the finest university in the world preparing undergraduate electrical engineers is Sharif University of Technology in Tehran"
Professor Burton Richter's opinion about Sharif's students during his speech was: "The students here are very impressive, I expect to hear a lot more from you all in the future."In 2008 in response to an invitation from the president of Sharif University of Technology, six of presidents of U.S. research universities visited Iran. The group includes Jared Cohon of Carnegie Mellon University, J. Bernard Machen of the University of Florida; C. Daniel Mote, Jr. of the University of Maryland, College Park; David Skorton of Cornell University; Larry Vanderhoef of the University of California, Davis and David Leebron from Rice University. This recognition is highly valuable, as there is no political connection between Iran and United States.
 

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persis said:
True... it is also the matter of corruption, a handful of Arab families are enjoying all the oil money..leaving the rest of 300 mil population in desperate situation...
It is also the responsibility and obligation of the 300MM population to do something to change their situation. For an outsider like me, it seems that all they do is blame Israel or the U.S. for every single one of their problems and never hold their own governments accountable (e.g. Hamas).

In the English speaking world, the governed "persuaded" bad King John to sign the Magna Carta in 1215. That is almost 800 years ago! The Arabs also need their own version of the Magna Carta.
 

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persis said:
…edit…How is it that to nail a screw into the wall, you need to go out and buy the hammer [from West ]...?!
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An enthralling discussion, and at such a high level of respect for the opinions of others.
Please pardon me for debasing the tone with a small bit of practical learning, and a teensy bit of flagwaving for a gift from my nationality to the world.

One does not nail a screw into the wall with any hammer, inheirited or newly-purchased. One screws a screw (one hammers a nail) Most efficiently with a Robertson screw and matching driver, invented by Mr Robertson in Montreal during the Great Depression. Its square recess allows the screw to be place on the driver without falling off, so it can be driven one handed with the greater torque the securely mated driver provides.

Thank you for your patience.

It might be pointed out that until well into this century the critiques of the place of learning in Islam could also have been applied to China. A glorious past, a dismal present. But then there was the Great Helmsman and the Great Leaps Forward (and back). So is there an Islamic Renaissance in the offing, or only more counter-reformation/reformation religious strife?
 
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