So we give 1 billion dollars in tax payers money and the CBC says they still need more. WTF !! Time to end this ??
Is it time to kill CBC ?
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Yes, funded by taxpayers run by people who run it like its their own personal network. And when they get a Freedom of Information request they just ignore it and tell you its none of your business to know how they spend all that taxpayers money.
CBC Radio has some of the best radio programs I've ever heard. Their content is better than anything else out there, and that's saying a lot. It proves that talent does exist in Canada, but their Radio budget is high enough to foster it.
CBC TV on the other hand has a lot to be desired. I don't think I've seen much that I've enjoyed, I like their news segments, the occasional Dragon's Den (idea licensed from the BBC), and a long time ago, their documentaries used to be good, but that's it. I'm not a hockey fan, but I heard that's popular. Personally, I'd want the budget to increase. The amount of Canadians in Hollywood confirms that this country breeds talent, but with shoe string budgets, there is little to do. Good shows take a lot of money, they pay off, but it takes risk and massive investments to get there. Take Netflix for example, the first season of House of Cards costed $100 million. That's one show, 14 episodes. Once you divide the billion dollars between the English TV, French TV, English Radio, French Radio, there isn't much.
But why bother? I think the BBC is an excellent example of why it's important. The BBC gets approximately $8 billion a year. The government has no influence, and is required by law to give this money to the BBC for the purposes that range from providing entertainment to national interest. BBC World is one of the most respected news organizations out there, and from a British perspective. BBC 1, 2, and 3 provide some spectacular programs that are popular around the world, including Doctor Who, Sherlock, Top Gear, Planet Earth, Luther, and a lot more. It's come to a point that the BBC is minting money from the licensing from those brands.
We constantly live in the shadow of US that it's become almost part of our identity to be 'Not American'. I believe media plays a huge role in defining a nation's identity. But the economics of it, the British population is double ours, but 1/5 the United States. You wouldn't imagine it from their film/television industry. It's thriving there, while most Canadians here could barely tell you the name of five actors/directors/producers of Canadian television.
CBC TV on the other hand has a lot to be desired. I don't think I've seen much that I've enjoyed, I like their news segments, the occasional Dragon's Den (idea licensed from the BBC), and a long time ago, their documentaries used to be good, but that's it. I'm not a hockey fan, but I heard that's popular. Personally, I'd want the budget to increase. The amount of Canadians in Hollywood confirms that this country breeds talent, but with shoe string budgets, there is little to do. Good shows take a lot of money, they pay off, but it takes risk and massive investments to get there. Take Netflix for example, the first season of House of Cards costed $100 million. That's one show, 14 episodes. Once you divide the billion dollars between the English TV, French TV, English Radio, French Radio, there isn't much.
But why bother? I think the BBC is an excellent example of why it's important. The BBC gets approximately $8 billion a year. The government has no influence, and is required by law to give this money to the BBC for the purposes that range from providing entertainment to national interest. BBC World is one of the most respected news organizations out there, and from a British perspective. BBC 1, 2, and 3 provide some spectacular programs that are popular around the world, including Doctor Who, Sherlock, Top Gear, Planet Earth, Luther, and a lot more. It's come to a point that the BBC is minting money from the licensing from those brands.
We constantly live in the shadow of US that it's become almost part of our identity to be 'Not American'. I believe media plays a huge role in defining a nation's identity. But the economics of it, the British population is double ours, but 1/5 the United States. You wouldn't imagine it from their film/television industry. It's thriving there, while most Canadians here could barely tell you the name of five actors/directors/producers of Canadian television.
Is it time to kill the CBC?
Let's flip the question around, what does CBC still has to offer?
Let's face it, the CBC never really had much to offer in the first place. It is free, but you get what you pay for.
Without the hockey, and today's youth hooked on Youtube, the future of the CBC is in full retreat. No relevance for the vast majority of Canadians.
The CBC management are idiots I feel, and should be fired, or paid less.
The only asset they really had was Hockey Night in Canada. What do they do? They only broadcast on Saturday night. They should have been broadcasting the hockey at least 3 nights out of the week. Instead they put out shows with bad acting that are unwatchable.
Pull the plug!
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Let's flip the question around, what does CBC still has to offer?
Let's face it, the CBC never really had much to offer in the first place. It is free, but you get what you pay for.
Without the hockey, and today's youth hooked on Youtube, the future of the CBC is in full retreat. No relevance for the vast majority of Canadians.
The CBC management are idiots I feel, and should be fired, or paid less.
The only asset they really had was Hockey Night in Canada. What do they do? They only broadcast on Saturday night. They should have been broadcasting the hockey at least 3 nights out of the week. Instead they put out shows with bad acting that are unwatchable.
Pull the plug!
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Yeah but, you have to tell me why that is important.
If Canadian culture relies on government funded propaganda masqueraded as entertainment, the CBC has failed.
I am going to miss Don Cherry. The best Prime Minister this country never had.
C'est la vive.
The Doc Zone and the Passionate Eye to name just two. It's not free, as we pay for it with our taxes. The CBC is the recipient of a number international awards, from people and associations that know more about the broadcast industry than you.
Umm ... that's my point.
Who really gives a hoot about what "international awards" and "people and associations that know more about the broadcast industry than you" ... are you serious?
Hey, if that is the attitude, then no money for the CBC, Harper should kill it right now.
That is the problem. I do not need the CBC, especially now that hockey is not in their future. Yet they need my money as a taxpayer to keep on going. Then we have the attitude that the CBC is actually good for you and me, because people who know better tells us it is. The CBC stands for 1. sit down. 2. shut up. 3. pay up.
In my opinion, that position is not easy to defend.
Pull the plug!
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We can leave the taxpayers out of it, and make that pay per view.
That model has worked for organizations like the WWF.
I've heard from somebody that works for the CBC that the CBC employs 6,000 people- 50% of whom are Managers or Executives. What other organization has a management to employee ratio of 1:1? It's bad enough that the taxpayers are on the hook for this level of management incompetence but now the taxpayers are going to also subsidize Rogers through the NHL deal where CBC will televise Hockey Night in Canada while Rogers will collect the ad revenue (while supposedly paying the production costs). CBC will still have significant costs just supporting the Management staff to "supervise" the technicians running the control rooms across the nation.
Rogers cannot maintain the Hockey Night in Canada over the air broadcasts without the CBC because Rogers only has over the air television stations in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton & Winnipeg. Time for the government to step in and stop the cash flow. If there are special circumstances such as providing services where only subsidized television or radio can survive, then spin off those stations and subsidize them. Sell the balance of the CBC if any part of it is saleable (to anyone but Rogers).
Rogers cannot maintain the Hockey Night in Canada over the air broadcasts without the CBC because Rogers only has over the air television stations in Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton & Winnipeg. Time for the government to step in and stop the cash flow. If there are special circumstances such as providing services where only subsidized television or radio can survive, then spin off those stations and subsidize them. Sell the balance of the CBC if any part of it is saleable (to anyone but Rogers).
Non biased news cannot be compared to WWF.
CBC is modelled based on the BBC. Canadians need a place to gather information, otherwise, news will be provided to the population from the rich/corporations. Just look at the Sun News.
News have to be from a unbiased source.
Don't forget the news portion.
Investigative journalism is dying in the mainstream media, the CBC is now left as one of the few sources for investigation now. Its valuable as such and also as a way to promote Canadian arts.
speaking from somebody who lives in Windsor and gets mostly all American News. I love CBC for the simple fact that I can get Canadian news amongst all of this American news...
Plus I would miss Hockey Night in Canada if there was no more CBC
Plus I would miss Hockey Night in Canada if there was no more CBC
