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Ed Thomas

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Samsung has officially left Apple and it's silly fanbois in the DUST!!!

Done!! Finished!! And they did it with a product apple was said to be working on over a yr ago. In other words they beat them to the punch.. Big time. Like I've said before and proven before but they keep blindly denying (Cause fanbois keep avoiding FACTS)... OTB and 5Hummer can eat crow and suck on it!!


Apple is done. They are now reduced to followers not innovators. Case closed. I've said it here before the media ever did.
 

blackrock13

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Smart watches re little more than this years mood rings, remember those. The latest gotta have toy, but functionally nearly useless. Wit phone marching ti get largers why would anyone want to down size? The answer is just because. They will die on the same path as Segways, Jetpacks, and motorized skateboards.
 

basketcase

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Blackie, I originally thought the same but they are not looking to replace phones but are to be an accessory. The idea is that it is tethered to your phone so you can quickly do certain tasks such as check email or answer phones without having to get out your phone. In fact it facilitates even lager screens.


p.s. Ed - your android fanboi thing is just as idiotic as the apple fanbois.
 

Rockslinger

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I look at Samsung and I look at Nortel and RIM. Why is one a smashing success and the other two are DOA? The answer is simple. Samsung has a supportive government, we have the silly Harper Tories.
 

SirWanker

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I look at Samsung and I look at Nortel and RIM. Why is one a smashing success and the other two are DOA? The answer is simple. Samsung has a supportive government, we have the silly Harper Tories.
As much as I dislike the Harper Reformers ( they are not Tories), Nortel and RIM pretty much self-destructed by themselves.
 

Anynym

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Nortel and RIM were the authors of their own demise: Nortel failed to recognize that exponential growth has to end sometime (and plan accordingly); RIM failed to see the shift in the market they created (from corporate to personal devices). RIM was given one more kick at the can, and still have not produced a device which everyday consumers want to use for their personal enjoyment.

The smartwatch category is, as has been suggested, a complement to a smartphone - it provides the "instant display" for incoming text announcements and other "push" functions which are currently available on smartphones while their screens are "locked". A good smartwatch will provide the level of information available on the Microsoft "Active Tiles": how many new facebook notifications one has; how many twitter mentions and DMs; how many new Emails; who has sent new text messages; what time it is.

A number of people stopped wearing a watch because their smartphone gave them the time of day. Now, those same people have to keep digging their smartphone out of their pocket to glance at incoming text announcements and the like. Soon, many of those same people will be able to glance at their wrist for that instant notification and only dig out their smartphone when they need to respond.
 

onthebottom

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I'm predicting a swing and a miss.... and I'm not alone:

Samsung Galaxy Gear smartwatch looks rushed, misses the mark

The "Samsung Unpacked" event should have been named "Samsung Unraveling."

That's because, based on today's unveiling of the tech giant's anticipated entry into the burgeoning smartwatch market, it's clear that Samsung has dropped the ball.

It's also evident that Samsung doesn't understand the wearable technology market yet either.

To be fair, it's still a rather new space.

From the Nike FuelBand even to Google Glass, there are only a handful of wearable tech devices that the average consumer with a casual knowledge of mobile gadgets might know by name.

That's all about to change if you listen to some tech industry analysts and manufacturing leaders.

Last week, Broadcom CEO Scott McGregor admitted during a Q&A session with members of the San Francisco tech press that it's hard to predict just how big the wearable tech market will end up being based on varying analyst reports.

Still, he speculated that most believe the sector will grow by a factor of 10 over the next five years.

The Galaxy smartphone and tablet maker is arguably the biggest name in mobile technology to get in the game to date.

Following up Samsung's introduction today as well as another SmartWatch generation from Sony, Apple is eventually expected to deliver its own entry. Rumors are also heating up around the Google camp -- especially after the Android maker's acquisition of WIMM Labs on Friday.

Still, Samsung has left the door wide open with the Galaxy Gear, which looks both rushed and exorbitantly priced at the same time.

With a $299 price tag, there was nothing conveyed during Wednesday's live-streamed presentation to justify why anyone should pay that much for a companion device that will initially only work with two other Samsung devices rolling out this fall.

A smartwatch (or any piece of wearable tech for that matter) shouldn't be released just to act as an accessory to a smartphone or tablet -- it should fill a void all on its own by being more mobile, cheaper, or a combination of both.

The Galaxy Gear doesn't come close to answering any of that.

(Let's not even get into how disappointing the overall clunky design is. If you want to know how I feel about that, then look no further than what my ZDNet colleague Andrew Nusca had to say earlier. All I can add is that Dick Tracy had a cooler-looking wristband.)

For a company that is the manufacturing leader of the Android ecosystem and topping the mobile OEM charts around the globe, we should all expect better. One has to wonder if Samsung is starting to crack under the pressure.

In the end, my only conclusion is that Samsung just wanted to beat Apple to the punch here.


Rumors have been swirling around for months that Apple is developing what has been referred to in the media as an "iWatch." Apple has confirmed that it will be hosting a media event at its Cupertino, Calif. headquarters next Tuesday, September 10, expected to cover the highly-awaited next generation of the iPhone.

But Apple hasn't even confirmed that it is working on a smartwatch yet -- and there's no rush to do so now either.

Samsung might be beating its prime competition to the wearables war, but being first doesn't guarantee a win.
 

blackrock13

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Blackie, I originally thought the same but they are not looking to replace phones but are to be an accessory. The idea is that it is tethered to your phone so you can quickly do certain tasks such as check email or answer phones without having to get out your phone. In fact it facilitates even lager screens.


p.s. Ed - your android fanboi thing is just as idiotic as the apple fanbois.
I have had hard enough times reading emails in my phone and you think I'm going to read them on a three inch screen. Considering how many members, as we told in past watch threads, don't own watches as their phone do it for them, this sounds like duplication of tasks. As a phone it won't be much of a private conversation, so let's hope you don't get ripped a new one by a gf, boss, or client while you've others in hear shot. There are times when I can hear both sides of a conversation even with the phone up against the ear of someone.
 
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IM469

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I'm predicting a swing and a miss....

.....Apple hasn't even confirmed that it is working on a smartwatch yet.
Shouldn't the truthful phrase be - "I'm hoping for a swing and a miss ?" Every technological leap that a non-iPhone product has ( e.g: NRI, LTE, big screens ) is too early, not necessary, etc, etc. Is it really a surprise you find the Gear a miss ? Most 'experts who happen to love Apple' predicted a failure in the Galaxy Notebook basically because they parroted the total marked perceptions of Steve Jobs who now has been proven wrong time after time.

Apple does not announce new product development programs but they have already taken out international trademarks on iWatch and patents concerning watch technology. To suggest that they are not in the market because they chose not to is more than a little naive at this stage.

I predict not necessarily Samsung but that the concept of a watch type bluetooth controller (which Gear, Sony & Qualcomm are) is a very viable market. I have a smartphone that is capable of everything I need including a large screen for surfing, media and documents but I need a smaller device on my wrist so that I don't have to keep hauling my phone out for calls, text messages, etc. I can't see putting out $300 for bleeding edge technology but I look forward to replacing my watch with this type of device.

As for the Rachel - the temporary Apple hero - I think her comments are really over the top and I wonder if it is coincidence that Apple is doing their next release of iPhones next week.
 

highpark

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Companies the have their shit together and have visionary people at the top do well. rim has disastrous people at the top. When T Heins of BlackBerry said that iPhone was obsolete and tablets r done, when he said these things while android and iPhone r destroying his customer base shows complete ignorance and ineptness on his part. The BlackBerry super bowl commercial wad an unmitigated disaster. And he didn't even have the product ready to sell.
Iphone on the contrary makes spectacularly easy and enjoyable smart phones that people love. And there's an app for everything and the apps work just as good or better than the flawless phone works.
I'm not a samsung galaxy fan. I find their phones too complicated to use. But if you're a rocket scientist they work great and they got a behemoth of a corporation to market with. They've marketed those galaxies incredibly well. They've got their shit together big time.
So basically the companies that succeed do so cause they know what they're doing. And the companies that bomb out do so cause they're stupid or they get complacent.
 

onthebottom

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Shouldn't the truthful phrase be - "I'm hoping for a swing and a miss ?" Every technological leap that a non-iPhone product has ( e.g: NRI, LTE, big screens ) is too early, not necessary, etc, etc. Is it really a surprise you find the Gear a miss ? Most 'experts who happen to love Apple' predicted a failure in the Galaxy Notebook basically because they parroted the total marked perceptions of Steve Jobs who now has been proven wrong time after time.

Apple does not announce new product development programs but they have already taken out international trademarks on iWatch and patents concerning watch technology. To suggest that they are not in the market because they chose not to is more than a little naive at this stage.

I predict not necessarily Samsung but that the concept of a watch type bluetooth controller (which Gear, Sony & Qualcomm are) is a very viable market. I have a smartphone that is capable of everything I need including a large screen for surfing, media and documents but I need a smaller device on my wrist so that I don't have to keep hauling my phone out for calls, text messages, etc. I can't see putting out $300 for bleeding edge technology but I look forward to replacing my watch with this type of device.

As for the Rachel - the temporary Apple hero - I think her comments are really over the top and I wonder if it is coincidence that Apple is doing their next release of iPhones next week.
I don't think it's very well thought out... kinda like google glass....

I don't think it matters what I'm "hoping" for, and really, why would I care, I'm just making a bold prediction that these won't sell..... If Samsung is brave enough to release sales data we'll know if I'm right or wrong.

OTB
 

onthebottom

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Anynym

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I have had hard enough times reading emails in my phone and you think I'm going to read them on a three inch screen. Considering how many members, as we told in past watch threads, don't own watches as their phone do it for them, this sounds like duplication of tasks. As a phone it won't be much of a private conversation, so let's hope you don't get ripped a new one by a gf, boss, or client while you've others in hear shot. There are times when I can hear both sides of a conversation even with the phone up against the ear of someone.
When Bluetooth was first being introduced into products, there were product managers who honestly believed that the "killer application" for the technology was for stores to run a Bluetooth connection that would accost customers with ads as they walked past the front door. They believed that linking a telephone headset to a phone wasn't solving any problems, since you could do the same thing by plugging in a wire when you were near the phone. We now know that the application for Bluetooth is in "near-range remote connectivity", for phones, stereo speakers, etc.

With smartwatches, the same conundrum is presenting itself: people fail to realize what you would do with it, and what you simply would not do with it.

You would not read an entire email on it. You would not read a PDF file on it. You would not visit a traditional website from it.

You would glance at who sent the email, to see if you need to dig your phone out of your pocket and respond immediately. You could read short text messages.

Your smartphone will continue to serve as your Message Centre. Your smartwatch will serve as your Notification Centre. Your pager, if you will.
 
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