I've always wondered.

[renton]

((Feel free to read this, but please do so with an open minD))

I am of the belief that if I'm thinking it, there's got to be more people thinking the same thing. So here goes. I've only hooked up with a sp once. I'm intrigued by the anonymity of it all. That, and I've been in an on and off relationship for 4 years which hasn't been the greatest at the best of times. That's just being honest.
I've always left an mp or that one sp experience with some regret. Thankfully for me, strip clubs don't pose this problem. As mentionned, there are things that intrigue me about this side of life, but in the same breath, I hate thinking of myself in terms of a (John). I'm 29 years old, good looking and fairly successful. I dont need it, but I want it. That's just me.

I dont have any kids or anything, or a very serious relationship, so my guilt isn't there. I often feel guilty about the girls involved with this line of work. Do they really want to be there? It seems like some girls, especially a few who post here, seem to like their job, but naturally, they're working towards getting away from it at some point. I wonder why a girl would work in an mp when they could seemingly make more in a strip club and not have to deal with certain (aspects) of things.

I'm not here to discourage anyone. I'm not here to change anyone's opinion or the world for that matter, but I've often wondered these things. If anyone cares to share their thoughts, I think it would be interesting. If you're happy doing what you're doing, by all means, keep doing it! Just be safe & well of mind. Get out before you burnout. That's all.

 

[skypilot]

I think a lot of us have many of the same questions. Its just a normal part of this subculture we belong to.

 

[Alexis696969]

If youve only had one experience with an mp and one with a sp ......perhaps you lacking experience to come up with those conclusions .So no need to worry about gals burning out .Heck strippers burn out too , ,thats life ,everyjob has issues come up .Do clients get burned out and over analyze about us girls ,perhaps its possible and thats not healthy either .Everyone should be treated with a fresh slate and never be compared to the next .Its not greener on the other side for any gal in the industry ,thats your opinion and this is mine .

 

[MarkII]

I've often had the same thoughts about the women. Why are they doing this? Why was this their choice? Why do they like it or do they?

Thats why I like being a regular with a provider. Over a period of time they get to know you and likewise.

I've always hobbyed with the more pricey women simply because they often are the most well reviewed. None of them have ever said they dislike the lifestyle in fact most havecommented on how much they like it.

I can't vouch for how honest they were being.

I've seen many who were still in school and this was a way to pay for education without strings attached and seemed quite fine with that.

The underlying theme I've encountered was: well I like sex and this way I'm making money!

To each their own.

I suspect the women working the streets have much different stories to tell.

 

[renton]

I'm not making any assumptions of anyone in particular. As mentionned, those I've been in contact with have been nice people. I have read threads about girls who've ripped guys off, been ripped off, drug problems, the kind of things that kill the fantasy behind the idea. Skylight said it well, it's a part of the subculture.

To clarify, I've had more than one experience at an mp, but just once with a sp. I think the observation is fair either way. Like I said, I'm not coming to any conclusions, I've often wondered. There's a difference in that.

 

[renton]

I hear ya on the street walkers Mark. There's a dark side to everything.

 

[LeroyBrown]

I've often wondered too. I have some thoughts:

People will work at small company 'X' putting a nut on a bolt for eight hours making half what they would make doing the same thing working for Honda, or Toyota or GM. Or clean floors in hotel 'Y' for half what they would make cleaning floors in a hospital. Why? Low sense of self worth?? Too lazy to seek out the other job??? I dunno.

SC versus MP versus SP for earning potential...
SC gotta believe in yourself, sell yourself, hustle to earn.
SP gotta know how to market. And manage a business.
MP clients come to you, pick you, rejection is lower, again belief in self.
MP is more private, less observation of actions and interactions by others.
MP, SP not as much ability to choose your clients.

To do it or not do it. Hmmm, curvy young girl with little education, can make 8 bucks an hour at Timmy's like her friends or $500 bucks a day at CB or HFH, or as an SP (oh yeah, tax free!!). Seen some of the cars driven by some of the smarter dancers at some of the clubs. A beamer X5 is not cheap and if you don't have a reportable income your financing options may be limited, so maybe it was bought cash. Think about that versus working Timmy's or collecting mother's allowance.

What about freedom. SP and freelance SCers can come and go (so to speak) as they please. Work more, make more.

And there may actually be some enjoyment some or a lot of the time by some of the providers. Think about it, if you could dance or body slide or better, with sometimes average or better looking women, and get fair or well paid for the pleasure, would you consider it. Maybe you start out part time, escort one or two dates a week, then next thing you know your part-time earnings are exceeding your full-time earnings, your full-time boss pisses you off and voila your full-time. see you later mr. eight-bucks-an-hour-treat-me-like-shit employer.

Or some, driven by desparation for money, for rent/baby food, or drugs, do what they can to earn some scratch. Or get dragged into the profession by addiction and the high cost of coke, crack, or meth.

Or maybe their addiction is sex, and they just flat out enjoy sex and sex related activites. I think (OK am pretty sure) I am a sex addict. Why not some of the women you run into in the hobby.

Some are purely business people. They thought, what do I have to sell. How can I maximize my income. How can I market what I have. And you have your high end, fancy web-site, independents.

And some I think do it because they dislike men. They want to use men for their money and get off on the thrill of the buck and maximizing their feeling of "getting the best" of their clients. We've all met (and read reviews) of some of these. The mechanical clock-watching MP. The charge too many songs SCer, the whack you till you cum in 5 minutes, out the door in 7 type ho.

Just thoughts.

Nice thread, Renton.

 

[pussylicker]

I've often wondered too. I have some thoughts:

People will work at small company 'X' putting a nut on a bolt for eight hours making half what they would make doing the same thing working for Honda, or Toyota or GM. Or clean floors in hotel 'Y' for half what they would make cleaning floors in a hospital. Why? Low sense of self worth?? Too lazy to seek out the other job??? I dunno.

There are only so many jobs at the hospital, Honda, Toyota or GM, so that isn't true. I know lots of people who have got jobs in those fields, and most of it is who you know getting you in the door at the right time, rather than the general public walking into a great paying job. Been there, done that. I know people who will work in those areas strictly for the money, and not for any sense of self accomplishment. Putting a nut on a bolt in mind numbing, and a nowhere job. Some people have used it as a means to an end, to put the food on the table or clothes for the kids, while waiting it out until a better more fulfilling career door opens. Education and social skills or the lack thereof often dictate where you fall in the pecking order.

SC versus MP versus SP for earning potential...
SC gotta believe in yourself, sell yourself, hustle to earn.
SP gotta know how to market. And manage a business.
MP clients come to you, pick you, rejection is lower, again belief in self.
MP is more private, less observation of actions and interactions by others.
MP, SP not as much ability to choose your clients.

It doesn't matter which specific area the girls work in, they still have to sell themselves. It's all about how skillfull the interaction is with the customer, and how far they want to the interaction to go whether it is fantasy or reallity. That's what brings the guys back as regular repeaters. Some girls are more of an exhibitionists, and can use the art of dancing to make their money, rather than be in a bedroom. I wouldn't call it a business. I'm sure they can run to the bank and say I want to borrow money based on my projected earnings, and this is my business plan. You can't clone and open up another franchise of you in another city.

To do it or not do it. Hmmm, curvy young girl with little education, can make 8 bucks an hour at Timmy's like her friends or $500 bucks a day at CB or HFH, or as an SP (oh yeah, tax free!!). Seen some of the cars driven by some of the smarter dancers at some of the clubs. A beamer X5 is not cheap and if you don't have a reportable income your financing options may be limited, so maybe it was bought cash. Think about that versus working Timmy's or collecting mother's allowance.

What about freedom. SP and freelance SCers can come and go (so to speak) as they please. Work more, make more.

And there may actually be some enjoyment some or a lot of the time by some of the providers. Think about it, if you could dance or body slide or better, with sometimes average or better looking women, and get fair or well paid for the pleasure, would you consider it. Maybe you start out part time, escort one or two dates a week, then next thing you know your part-time earnings are exceeding your full-time earnings, your full-time boss pisses you off and voila your full-time. see you later mr. eight-bucks-an-hour-treat-me-like-shit employer.

Or some, driven by desparation for money, for rent/baby food, or drugs, do what they can to earn some scratch. Or get dragged into the profession by addiction and the high cost of coke, crack, or meth.

Or maybe their addiction is sex, and they just flat out enjoy sex and sex related activites. I think (OK am pretty sure) I am a sex addict. Why not some of the women you run into in the hobby.

Some are purely business people. They thought, what do I have to sell. How can I maximize my income. How can I market what I have. And you have your high end, fancy web-site, independents.

And some I think do it because they dislike men. They want to use men for their money and get off on the thrill of the buck and maximizing their feeling of "getting the best" of their clients. We've all met (and read reviews) of some of these. The mechanical clock-watching MP. The charge too many songs SCer, the whack you till you cum in 5 minutes, out the door in 7 type ho.

Just thoughts.

Nice thread, Renton.

The rest sounds like you have a small chip on your shoulder.

It all depends on what they want out of life, and what they are willing to do or sacrifice to get it. No matter what career choice there is out there, there are going to be people who step on toes, trying to get to the top. There are going to be bad apples in every crowd, so expect to find the odd con artist. If guys could market themselves and sell their bodies, they would be out in higher numbers than women. If there wasn't a market where women get paid to get naked, and get close to a man, they would be working in normal jobs. These women aren't stupid. They may not all be sharp cookies, but they know how to get you to part with your hard earned money, and I tip my hat to them.

There is a big difference between a job, a career, and loving what you do everyday for the rest of your life, just like there is a difference between existing or surviving and living to enjoy life.

 

[renton]

Valid points, all around.

I guess I'm looking at the emotional detachment that's required. Any of the 3 mp, sc, sp could be fun & exciting until you've got a customer who's out of your comfort zone. As customers, we are a bit more free to pick & choose. Granted, these girls can turn down a customer or walk away at any time, but you'd think that dancing for a 65 year old man is better than offering him fs. I'm not sure that's coming out the way I'm thinking it. But again, it's just a thought.