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Jailed Man Defends Honor-Killing: "In My Country, It is Normal"

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Pigs, should be locked up forever.

In my country, murder is normal': Man who is in jail for his niece's honour killing sues ITV for accusing him of ordering her rape

Banaz Mahmod was aged 20 when she was killed on the orders of her father Mahmod Mahmod and uncle Ari Mahmod after she left an abusive arranged marriage.

Other family members and friends were recruited to carry out the murder and she was raped by three of her cousins before being strangled.

Uncle Mahmod, 69, is now suing over a 2020 drama called Honour, starring Keeley Hawes, and a 2012 documentary on the killing.

He claims that in his Iraqi Muslim culture, 'honour' murders are acceptable but accusation of rape have destroyed his reputation, the Sun reports.

While representing himself, he told the High Court that he been attacked in jail and that his family were victims of reprisals.

'In my country murder is normal — after served time you have a new opportunity,' he said speaking via videolink from HMP Whitemoor in Cambridgeshire earlier this month

'In my culture the main things they react against me was the rape allegation.'

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Speaking about himself in the third person, he added: 'Almost all statements left no doubts the allegation of rape was with Ari's blessing. In the Islamic community rape is taboo — it is the highest level of crime.'

Banaz fled an abusive arranged marriage, which she had at the age of 17, after being continuously raped and beaten by her husband, who was ten years older.

She returned to live in the family home in south London and then fell in love with a Kurdish man, Rahmat Suleimani.

In the months leading up to her disappearance, Banaz reported to police five times that her family wanted her dead, but no action was taken.

She was deemed to have brought 'shame' on the family with her father and uncle hatching an evil plan to have her killed in the most savage way possible to restore their 'honour' and 'reputation' within the community.

Banaz suffered horrific sexual violence prior to being strangled to death at the family home in January 2006.

Her body was then stuffed into a suitcase and taken to Birmingham , where it was buried in the garden of an abandoned home.

Following the discovery of her body, Banaz's father, uncle and other relatives and family associates were charged with her murder or for conspiring in it.

 
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Pigs, should be locked up forever.

In my country, murder is normal': Man who is in jail for his niece's honour killing sues ITV for accusing him of ordering her rape

Banaz Mahmod was aged 20 when she was killed on the orders of her father Mahmod Mahmod and uncle Ari Mahmod after she left an abusive arranged marriage.

Other family members and friends were recruited to carry out the murder and she was raped by three of her cousins before being strangled.

Uncle Mahmod, 69, is now suing over a 2020 drama called Honour, starring Keeley Hawes, and a 2012 documentary on the killing.

He claims that in his Iraqi Muslim culture, 'honour' murders are acceptable but accusation of rape have destroyed his reputation, the Sun reports.

While representing himself, he told the High Court that he been attacked in jail and that his family were victims of reprisals.

'In my country murder is normal — after served time you have a new opportunity,' he said speaking via videolink from HMP Whitemoor in Cambridgeshire earlier this month

'In my culture the main things they react against me was the rape allegation.'

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Speaking about himself in the third person, he added: 'Almost all statements left no doubts the allegation of rape was with Ari's blessing. In the Islamic community rape is taboo — it is the highest level of crime.'

Banaz fled an abusive arranged marriage, which she had at the age of 17, after being continuously raped and beaten by her husband, who was ten years older.

She returned to live in the family home in south London and then fell in love with a Kurdish man, Rahmat Suleimani.

In the months leading up to her disappearance, Banaz reported to police five times that her family wanted her dead, but no action was taken.

She was deemed to have brought 'shame' on the family with her father and uncle hatching an evil plan to have her killed in the most savage way possible to restore their 'honour' and 'reputation' within the community.

Banaz suffered horrific sexual violence prior to being strangled to death at the family home in January 2006.

Her body was then stuffed into a suitcase and taken to Birmingham , where it was buried in the garden of an abandoned home.

Following the discovery of her body, Banaz's father, uncle and other relatives and family associates were charged with her murder or for conspiring in it.

The honour killing took place before 2012.

The fact that the Mail is making much about assholes doing something 15 years ago suggests that it probably no longer happens in the UK. Canada had 1 honour killing which happened in 2005 IIRC.

This is the wiki article which cites several honour killings in the UK, but all more than 10 years ago.


Every year in the United Kingdom (UK), officials estimates that at least a dozen women died from honour killings, exclusively within South Asian and Middle Eastern families.[80] Often, cases cannot be resolved due to the unwillingness of families, relatives and communities to testify. A 2006 BBC poll for the Asian network in the UK found that one in ten of the 500 young Asians polled said that they could condone the killing of someone who had dishonored their families.[81] In the UK, in December 2005, Nazir Afzal, Director, west London, of Britain's Crown Prosecution Service, stated that the United Kingdom has seen "at least a dozen honour killings" between 2004 and 2005.[82]

In 2010, Britain saw a 47% rise in the number of honor-related crimes. Data from police agencies in the UK report 2283 cases in 2010, and an estimated 500 more from jurisdictions that did not provide reports. These "honor-related crimes" also include house arrests and other parental punishments.[83] Most of the attacks were conducted in cities that had high immigrant populations.[84]

One of the earliest prosecuted cases in the UK was that of 19-year-old Rukhsana Naz, who was forced to marry her second cousin from Pakistan at age 15. She embarked on an affair with the man she had really wanted to marry, fell pregnant and was murdered by her brother with the aid of her mother for refusing to terminate her pregnancy and remain in her forced marriage.[85]

Banaz Mahmod, a 20-year-old Iraqi Kurdish woman from Mitcham, south London, was murdered in 2006, in a murder orchestrated by her father, uncle and cousins.[86] Her life and murder were presented in a documentary called Banaz: A Love Story, directed and produced by Deeyah Khan. The investigation into her disappearance and murder was dramatised in the 2020, two-part ITV mini-series, Honour, starring Keeley Hawes.[87]

Another well-known case was Heshu Yones, stabbed to death by her Kurdish father in London in 2002, because he thought she'd become too "westernized" and was involved in a relationship of which he didn't approve.[88] Other examples include the killing of Tulay Goren, a Kurdish Shia Muslim girl who immigrated with her family from Turkey,[89] and Samaira Nazir (Pakistani Muslim).[89]

A highly publicized case was that of Shafilea Iftikhar Ahmed, a 17-year-old British Pakistani girl from Great Sankey, Warrington, Cheshire, who was murdered in 2003 by her parents.[90] However, a lesser-known case is that of Gurmeet Singh Ubhi, a Sikh man who, in February 2011, was found guilty of the murder of his 24-year-old daughter, Amrit Kaur Ubhi in 2010.[91] Ubhi was found to have murdered his daughter because he disapproved of her being "too westernized". Likewise, he also disapproved of the fact that she was dating a non-Sikh man.[92]

In 2012, the UK had the first white victim of an honor killing: 17-year-old Laura Wilson was murdered by her Asian boyfriend, Ashtiaq Ashgar, because she revealed details of their relationship to his family, challenging traditional cultural values of the Asian family. Laura Wilson's mother said, "I honestly think it was an honour killing for putting shame on the family. They needed to shut Laura up and they did." Wilson was repeatedly knifed to death as she walked along a canal in Rotherham.[93]

In 2013, Mohammed Inayat was jailed for murdering his wife and injuring three daughters by setting his house on fire in Birmingham. Inayat wanted to stop his daughter from flying to Dubai to marry her boyfriend, because he believed the marriage would dishonor his family.[94]

In 2013, the husband of Syrian-born 25-year-old Rania Alayed was jailed for her murder. His two brothers were also jailed for perverting the course of justice in relation to the disposal of her body, which has never been found. According to the prosecution, the motive for the murder was that she had become "too westernised" and was "establishing an independent life".[95][96][97]
 
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Here are the notes for Canada and the US. Again, first decade of the 2000's.

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Honor killings have become such a pressing issue in Canada that the Canadian citizenship study guide mentions it specifically, saying, "Canada's openness and generosity do not extend to barbaric cultural practices that tolerate spousal abuse, 'honour killings', female genital mutilation, forced marriage or other gender-based violence."[243]

Canada has been host to a number of high-profile killings, including the murder of Jaswinder Kaur Sidhu,[244] the murder of Amandeep Atwal,[245] the double murder of Khatera Sadiqi and her fiancé,[243] and the Shafia family murders.[243][246]

A 2007 study by Dr. Amin Muhammad and Dr. Sujay Patel of Memorial University, Canada, investigated how the practice of honor killings was brought to Canada. The report explained that "When people come and settle in Canada they can bring their traditions and forcefully follow them. In some cultures, people feel that some boundaries are never to be crossed, and if someone would violate those practices or go against them, then killing is justified to them." The report noted that "In different cultures, they can get away without being punished—the courts actually sanction them under religious contexts". The report also said that the people who commit these crimes are usually mentally ill and that the mental health aspect is often ignored by Western observers because of a lack of understanding of the insufficiently developed state of mental healthcare in developing countries in which honor killings are prevalent.[247]


United States
Main article: Honor killing in the United States

Several honor killings have occurred in the U.S. during recent years. In 1989, in St. Louis, Missouri, 16-year-old Palestina "Tina" Isa was murdered by her Palestinian father with the aid of his wife. Her parents were dissatisfied with her "westernized" lifestyle.[248] In 2008, in Georgia, 25-year-old Sandeela Kanwal was murdered by her Pakistani father for refusing an arranged marriage.[249][250][251] Amina and Sarah Said, two teenage sisters from Texas, were murdered, allegedly by their Egyptian father, Yaser Abdel Said, who was at large until his capture in Texas in August 2020.[252][253][254] Aasiya Zubair was, together with her husband Muzzammil Hassan, the founder and owner of Bridges TV, the first American Muslim English-language television network. She was murdered by her husband in 2009. Phyllis Chesler argues that this crime was an honor killing.[255] In 2009, in Arizona, Noor Almaleki, aged 20, was murdered by her father, an Iraqi immigrant, because she had refused an arranged marriage and was living with her boyfriend.[256]

The extent of honor-based violence in the U.S. is not known, because no official data is collected. There is controversy about the reasons why such violence occurs, and about the extent to which culture, religion, and views on women cause these incidents.[257]
 

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Frank is colorblind.
You wonder why Lefties try to sweep cases like this under the carpet
He claims everyone he argues with are racist but He can't distinguish for shit... When you criticize Hamas, he automatically cries you're criticizing Palestinians...and then turns around and says Israel is a terror state painting every one in Israel terrorists...pathetic...
 

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He claims everyone he argues with are racist but He can't distinguish for shit... When you criticize Hamas, he automatically cries you're criticizing Palestinians...and then turns around and says Israel is a terror state painting every one in Israel terrorists...pathetic...
You back genocide.
That is as hatefully racist as humanly possible.

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He claims everyone he argues with are racist but He can't distinguish for shit... When you criticize Hamas, he automatically cries you're criticizing Palestinians...and then turns around and says Israel is a terror state painting every one in Israel terrorists...pathetic...
He's calling them brown so he can play the victim role, watch what you say he'll rat you out.
 
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