In your world you just leave them to die?
You don't feed them or try to help them get better?
Nah, half of their funding came from outside the country as foreign electoral interference.
Junkies bankrupting ontario.
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You don't feed them or try to help them get better?
if you did that
a small percentage would clean themselves up and get onto a more productive non destructive life
a huge % would steal, rob, assault to stay high , drunk ... colleterial damage
a significant % would not survive the Canadian winter
If that were even true, it might be the better option to what they are doing now. As has been stated, the current trend is not sustainable
Doug was a dealer n
It's not cluelessness, it's a "couldn't give a shit"-ness.
In your world you wanted that for the unvaccinated. The biggest donor to the convoy came from the brother in law of Trudeau's buddy Jagshit.
Not hard to google their online flyer seeing how you'd never set foot in one.Is home depot having a sale on tiki torches again?
50% of the convoy funding was foreign.
sure, you think someone who is so smart to think vaccines are dangerous understands what is really going on.
I read the news and the reports.
Where Did Convoy Support Come From? Here Are the Maps | The Tyee
Our analysis of hacked donor data, from foreign interference to ‘blessings.’
thetyee.ca
You really think those injection sites helped? it didn't.
That's not a report...lolI read the news and the reports.
Where Did Convoy Support Come From? Here Are the Maps | The Tyee
Our analysis of hacked donor data, from foreign interference to ‘blessings.’
from your own link...
Making shit up...is your news.
"Thanks to a data leak, we have a rough idea."
Yes, the injection sites help people survive with their addictions in ways that they can try to recover.
Denmark got rid of their homeless problem through free public housing for the homeless, where they managed to recover and largely join the workforce.
Some people here just argue they should die on the streets.
Correct, that is a news story from one of the few investigative journalists around supported by the independent media.
You really are clueless.
Addiction (including alcohol, food, gambling and sex) is a brain disease that is usually just a symptom of mental health illness or personality disorders.
It is misunderstood and many are willfully ignorant regarding the subject.
The process once an addict decides to become sober or abstinent is a difficult one to navigate and is often a vicious circle, especially without family support or a strong support system which many addicts lack.
Some addicts (alcohol, opiates and benzos) require detox first. The wait list can be a few days to a few weeks.
Once detox is finished, an addict should go to a residential treatment centre right?
Pffft, you would think so...
Wait times for residential treatment centres can be months to over a year (depending on the length of time the centre offers) unless your job or family can afford a private treatment centre and even then there is a wait.
It is worse for women because there are less resources for them and don't get me started on treatment for youth.
There are a few long term treatment centres in Ontario, but many are only 21 days long. They used to be 28 days long until the government shaved off a week.
Barely any offer treatment for mental health illness or especially personality disorders. There are no doctors, only counselors.
Here is where the vicious circle applies...
They keep you for 21 days which barely cracks the surface, then you get thrown back into the fire (the bad environment you came from) with open wounds - opened and not treated.
Proper treatment for addiction should be readily available and should look like this:
-Detox if necessary
-Immediate transfer to residential treatment that also treats mental health illness and personality disorders. Treatment should be as long as the individual requires within reason.
-After intensive treatment, the individual should go to a recovery home *usually 6 months* where they are given daily freedoms and monitored with counseling. This is where longterm plans are made for housing, a job, etc...
-Harm reduction medications should be used in conjunction with treatment if needed.
With this model, watch the longterm recovery rate skyrocket.
And before you try to argue my points or say that I don't know what I am talking about, I have personal experience as a severely addicted youth (began at 13) into young adulthood.
I am approximately 10 years clean currently.
It is misunderstood and many are willfully ignorant regarding the subject.
The process once an addict decides to become sober or abstinent is a difficult one to navigate and is often a vicious circle, especially without family support or a strong support system which many addicts lack.
Some addicts (alcohol, opiates and benzos) require detox first. The wait list can be a few days to a few weeks.
Once detox is finished, an addict should go to a residential treatment centre right?
Pffft, you would think so...
Wait times for residential treatment centres can be months to over a year (depending on the length of time the centre offers) unless your job or family can afford a private treatment centre and even then there is a wait.
It is worse for women because there are less resources for them and don't get me started on treatment for youth.
There are a few long term treatment centres in Ontario, but many are only 21 days long. They used to be 28 days long until the government shaved off a week.
Barely any offer treatment for mental health illness or especially personality disorders. There are no doctors, only counselors.
Here is where the vicious circle applies...
They keep you for 21 days which barely cracks the surface, then you get thrown back into the fire (the bad environment you came from) with open wounds - opened and not treated.
Proper treatment for addiction should be readily available and should look like this:
-Detox if necessary
-Immediate transfer to residential treatment that also treats mental health illness and personality disorders. Treatment should be as long as the individual requires within reason.
-After intensive treatment, the individual should go to a recovery home *usually 6 months* where they are given daily freedoms and monitored with counseling. This is where longterm plans are made for housing, a job, etc...
-Harm reduction medications should be used in conjunction with treatment if needed.
With this model, watch the longterm recovery rate skyrocket.
And before you try to argue my points or say that I don't know what I am talking about, I have personal experience as a severely addicted youth (began at 13) into young adulthood.
I am approximately 10 years clean currently.
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People will say this is all to expensive, meanwhile many end up in prison which costs even more.
Exactly, not to mention the healthcare costs of overdoses and addiction related injuries, infections and diseases.
