The thing making me go hmmm is your paranoia and obsession with this conspiracy theory of yours that I am some other dude. How about you contribute to the threads or get bent?
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 hijacked, official says
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I stopped reading in the 3rd paragraph or so, when I got to this part:
'In the case of a fire, the first response is to pull the main busses and restore circuits one by one until you have isolated the bad one"
This is not the first response in large airliners. Pulling busses randomly to isolate the cause of a fire is a surefire way to cause you to plummet into the ground (or water). These are electronical, computer-driven marvels. ANY tampering with the electrics is a carefully thought-out, well-prepared and choreographed ordeal. The Boeing 777 QRH details how to handle "Smoke, fire or fumes".
1. Diversion may be needed.
2. Don oxygen masks and smoke goggles.
3. Establish crew and cabin communications.
4. IFE/PASS SEATS switch OFF (IFE is in-flight entertainment, basically turn off the TVs).
5. RECIRC FANS OFF
6. GASPER swtich OFF
7. APU BLEED AIR OFF
8. If source is obvious: isolate, extinguish and remove power from affected equipment by switch or circuit breaker.
If not obvious, go to step 10.
9. If source is VISUALLY confirmed to be extinguished and smoke/fumes are decreasing:
- Continue flight at pilot's discretions and restore unpowered items at the pilot's discretion (Blue Laser's note: "unpowered items" would be, for example, if you had to disable a bus to remove power from the source and have sense removed it from the circuit another way, you can now attempt to power on the bus)
10. Advise cabin the lighting will be switched off.
11. CABIN/UTILITY SWITCH OFF
12. INITIATE DIVERSION WHILE CONTINUING CHECKLIST.
13. LAND IMMEDIATELY IF SMOKE, FIRE or FUMES BECOME UNCONTROLLABLE.
14. DO NOT DELAY LANDING TO COMPLETE CHECKLIST.
15. C BLEED AIR ISLN SWITCH OFF
16. L PACK SWITCH OFF
17. L TRIM AIR SWITCH OFF
18. DO NOT COMPLETE PACK L or TRIM AIR L CHECKLISTS.
18. WAIT 2 MINUTES TO SEE IF SMOKE OR FUMES ARE DECREASING.
The checklist continues like this, for another 4 pages. Essentially saying, "now turn off these other handful of switches and wait another 2 minutes". At no point does the checklist say, "pull main busses". That's just not done. On small aircraft, absolutely. Flight school 101, flying a small propeller-driven Cessna or something, absolutely, the first thing you do in an electrical fire is hit your ELECTRONICS MASTER SWITCH OFF. But a Cessna 172 without electrical power still has 100% engine power, 100% flight control systems, 100% life support (or 0%, since it has no systems which is why it needs no power). The plane remains perfectly flyable. In fact, you can remove anything electrical from a Cessna 172, tell the government you did it, and STILL have them issue an airworthiness certificate for the aircraft because they aren't required systems. But a 777 is not a 172. It NEEDS electronics. Yes, there are backups and alternates and, in theory, it's "flyable" without them... But theory isn't practice. If you lose one or two of your electronic systems, you can keep the bird aloft and control the descent safely. If you lose ALL electronics, rapidly and without warning, there's a good chance you won't recover.
Where on earth did this one come from certainly not regular Russian media.
Of course the U.S. assisting a terrorist attack on Israel involving the kidnapping or murder of several hundred nationals of the PRC - That makes perfect sense :frusty:
Phased Array Radar at RAF Fylindales.
1) The Krasnoyarsk radar was a violation of the then in affect ABM treaty (treaty terminated in 2002), 2) the radar beams from a fixed emitter can be steered so that the radar can look in different directions (see photograph), 3) these radars can look up - such as at ballistic missile warheads or stuff in orbit - however, they can not look down far away that is OTH-B 4) Yes following the termination of the treaty.
Sorry, it was my misunderstanding; I thought the static wicks were some kind of pitot tubes.
They're permitted now are they not (Phased Array Radar?)?
Phased Array Radar at RAF Fylindales.
1) The Krasnoyarsk radar was a violation of the then in affect ABM treaty (treaty terminated in 2002), 2) the radar beams from a fixed emitter can be steered so that the radar can look in different directions (see photograph), 3) these radars can look up - such as at ballistic missile warheads or stuff in orbit - however, they can not look down far away that is OTH-B 4) Yes following the termination of the treaty.
I guess the original 'danger' of ABM systems was to destabilize if too much reliance was placed on them making trigger fingers itchy for a pre-emptive attack?
Aren't the Patriot missiles ABMs (used against Sadam's Soviet-supplied tactical missiles fired at Israel - what the heck were those called again)?
Residents of the remote Maldives island of Kuda Huvadhoo in Dhaal Atoll have reported seeing a "low flying jumbo jet" on the morning of the disappearance of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH370.
several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8.
They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.
Turns out there's an airport in the area, http://www.ganairport.com/pages/index/location/maps
Aerodrome Information
For the pilots; could a 777-200 land at this airport and take off again.
several residents of Kuda Huvadhoo told Haveeru on Tuesday that they saw a "low flying jumbo jet" at around 6:15am on March 8.
They said that it was a white aircraft, with red stripes across it – which is what the Malaysia Airlines flights typically look like.
Turns out there's an airport in the area, http://www.ganairport.com/pages/index/location/maps
Aerodrome Information
For the pilots; could a 777-200 land at this airport and take off again.
1) Yes, they certainly are, the RAF Fylindales Solid State Phased Array Radar (SSPAR) was installed circa 2004. 2) Indeed the thought was that an expansive ABM system would destabilize MAD in that one side or the other might attempt a first strike and the other side would then not be able to assure MAD. The treaty limited the number and location of Soviet and American ABM systems and the radars associated with them. 3) the world has changed and the goal now is defense from the limited strike a North Korea or Iran could mount. 4) SCUD-B 5) Patriot was an anti-aircraft missile system which was modified to be an theatre ABM system, more modern systems such as the Israeli Arrow II-5 are significantly better.
FWIW the Israel has increased its air defence status.
Israeli sources are looking peculiarly at Iran regarding all of this.
Israeli sources are looking peculiarly at Iran regarding all of this.
Ah yes, the SCUD. Thanks. Who makes those Israeli ARrow II-5 STA missiles? On a more grounded note, I saw a demonstration on TV of an Israeli anti-tank missile against an Egyptian tank (when those other tanks saw their friend incinerate, they pulled back). Those AT missiles have such secure handling procedures that a high-ranking officer must control their use and storage. It's like the AT missile has a mind of its own.
Well, the plot continues to thicken...
Now there are reports that the ACARS reported, in real time, that a changed flight plan had been punched into the computer before the pilots signed off to Kuala Lampur. And it was previously confirmed that the pilots signed off before the ACARS [correction: transponder] was turned off.
That is a very significant factor and implicates the pilots...
If the plane was expertly commandeered, then it is more likely that it landed somewhere and "the finger of suspicion" points to places such as Iran, Pakistan, Yemen...
Although, if I put on my "evil thinking mind," I would know that Malaysian military radar would track me until I got out of its range, so I would feign a sharp turn West to mislead the rational, linear thinkers before choosing the direction in which I really intended to go: South, or East because North is too complicated and West is into a huge ocean leading nowhere unless I could reach Africa...
Perry
Now there are reports that the ACARS reported, in real time, that a changed flight plan had been punched into the computer before the pilots signed off to Kuala Lampur. And it was previously confirmed that the pilots signed off before the ACARS [correction: transponder] was turned off.
That is a very significant factor and implicates the pilots...
If the plane was expertly commandeered, then it is more likely that it landed somewhere and "the finger of suspicion" points to places such as Iran, Pakistan, Yemen...
Although, if I put on my "evil thinking mind," I would know that Malaysian military radar would track me until I got out of its range, so I would feign a sharp turn West to mislead the rational, linear thinkers before choosing the direction in which I really intended to go: South, or East because North is too complicated and West is into a huge ocean leading nowhere unless I could reach Africa...
Perry
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One thing is for sure...BlueLaser is NOT Blackcock. Not a chance. One is a guy who knows what he is talking about, the other is Blackcock.
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Australia checking 2 objects possibly related to plane
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malays...g-objects-possibly-related-to-plane-1.2579606
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/malays...g-objects-possibly-related-to-plane-1.2579606
