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A cheating husband who strangled his new bride after she discovered his secret affairs with a string of women was today jailed for life.

Michael Roberts, 26, sobbed after being found guilty of murdering Vicky, 25, his wife of five months.

After the killing, the mobile phone salesman concocted an elaborate charade to make it appear that she was still alive.

Michael Roberts strangled his wife Vicky in November 2009 after she found out about his extra-marital affairs. Roberts sent bogus text messages from her phone to her concerned family and friends, saying the accounts manager for a chemical company had left him for another man.
He slept with his mistress in a hotel and even had a dinner with his in-laws at which he cried over their 'split' - while her dead body lay in their two-bedroom apartment.

Police were eventually called in to investigate but Robetts escaped from under their noses.
He slipped away when an officer began searching the garage in which he had dumped his wife’s body and evaded capture for four days - staying in hotels under a false name.

When he was eventually caught, Roberts admitted killing his wife but claimed he had accidentally strangled her when a sex game went wrong.

But he was actually leading a double life and had affairs with at least three women, and was romancing a fourth, before and after he married in June last year. Some were colleagues at Phones 4U where he worked and one told the police how they had enjoyed 'gymnastic sex'.

Last night Detective Inspector Jo Miller, who lead the investigation for Cheshire police, said: 'Roberts is a devious individual who has spun this web of lies to cover up the truth.
'It was very cruel of him to pretend Vicky was still alive by sending fake text messages from her phone to her mother. He even called her mother to claim he was choosing a Christmas present for her - this was especially despicable.

'There is no doubt Vicky Roberts married the man of her dreams in June 2009. She was described as “brimming over with happiness” on her wedding day. 'She wanted to make her marriage work at any cost and was willing to forgive him time and time again.

'But Michael Roberts couldn’t accept his own failings. He is a coward, a deceitful and arrogant individual .'She must have challenged him about his mistresses and begged him to give them up. That ultimatum cost Vicky her life.'

Today a jury, sitting at Liverpool Crown Court, took just three hours to find Roberts, who was described as devious and clever, guilty of murder.

Mr Justice Royce jailed him for life and said he must serve a minimum of 17 years before he is eligible for parole.

CCTV footage showed Roberts buying bin bags, insulation sheets and duct tape, which he used to wrap up his wife's corpse and store it in the garage.

The judge told Roberts: 'Vicky was a talented, vibrant, caring, lively and loving daughter.
'You cheated on her and deceived her during your relationship before and after your short marriage. She deserved better than that. After the killing you spun an elaborate web of deceit. The scale of your subterfuge was very considerable. You painted Vicky as the villain who abandoned you for another man and yourself as a wonderful and kind man. This was sickening hypocrisy.'

'You went about it in a cold and heartless way to deceive her family and friends and induce sympathy for yourself.'

The court heard that Roberts had a 13-month affair with Kerrie Hall, 31, an administration boss at Phones4U, for whom he worked as an assistant store manager.

She told police Roberts liked rough sex and that they enjoyed gymnastic sex sessions. He had twice tried to throttle her during intercourse, claiming it would make it more enjoyable.

Roberts had a second lover in Karen Wilson, 26, who he met two months before his marriage and while still seeing Miss Hall.

A month before she died - on November 29 last year - Mrs Roberts confronted her husband after becoming suspicious about his text messages and entries on Facebook.

The court heard that she was ‘distraught and heartbroken’ after learning of his infidelity, but was desperate to save her marriage. She wrote touching letters to Roberts in a bid to persuade him to give up his philandering.

He promised to be faithful but instead continued the relationship with Miss Wilson, telling her he had ended his marriage and moved in with his parents.

Phone records obtained by police revealed that the pair contacted each other more than 5,000 times in November alone.

On the night of Mrs Roberts’s death the couple had dinner before returning to their £125,000 flat in Runcorn, Cheshire.

Roberts claimed they had sex, during which he accidentally strangled her when she asked him to tie the cord of a bath robe around her neck.

But medical evidence revealed a bath robe tie was not the ligature and considerable force was used to throttle her.

Within minutes of his wife’s death Roberts called Miss Wilson and spent more than two hours on the telephone to her, acting as if nothing had happened. :eek:

The couple spent the following day shopping with a friend, Lavinia Tolley, 26, who Roberts also admitted kissing several times behind his wife’s and Miss Wilson’s back, and had sex in a hotel in Bangor, north Wales.

The two were spotted kissing and cuddling and behaving by a pub landlord, who later recognised his picture from the television appeals and called police.

Roberts then started using his wife’s phone to send texts to himself, her friends and parents, claiming she had walked out.

He called Mrs Roberts’ mother to ask for advice on what to buy his wife for Christmas and even had dinner with his in-laws, knowing all the time their daughter was dead.

Roberts also got rid of his wife’s clothes and bought silk sheets to prepare the former marital bedroom for his mistress.


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Moral of the story: Liers get pussies, until they lose it and kill or break laws.

Just legalize polygomy, problems solved. We find some muslim countries customs apalling, I wonder what if they mock us for letting women control men in the west.
Western women think they deserve to be treated like princess while in reality, it is not possible. At the same time they cannot help but be attracted to assholes who have to turn to deception to keep their woman. I once had a girlfriend for almost a year, did not know my real age or what I do for living. Women in this society have such high standard and want "Mr. Perfect" it forces men to lie and deceive just to get pussies. However it does not give excuse for this guy's behavior in the article, clearly he has lost his head and has anger / emotional control issues. But it just goes to show similar problems are all around causing tons and tons of emotional pains for millions of people. If we just allowed polygamy and women just swallow their pride and accept "weaker sex" in reality, most of these problems could be avoided.
 

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Zardoz, the issue isn't polygomy. He simply shouldn't have gotten married. However, he's a delusional sociopath to begin with, and no woman should be with him.
 

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Zardoz, the issue isn't polygomy. He simply shouldn't have gotten married. However, he's a delusional sociopath to begin with, and no woman should be with him.
You can talk about should and shouldn't all you want, but there are thousands maybe tens of thousands of sociopaths just like this guy (except that they can control their emotions so their actions stay within the confines of the law), continue to get new pussies week after week by being manupilative and deceiving, while the rest of us "honest nice guys" struggle even to get laid at all. The fact that this guy killed his wife has nothing to do with his ability to get pussies. He crossed the line, can't control his emotions of the moment. You just like to link the fact that he has many mistresses causes this tragedy because it is a comforting idea that men like him will end up in trouble, but in reality, not necessarily true.
Gender equality and feminism are the biggest delusions in modern history. Majority of women given the power of choice and freedom rarely make rational decisions when comes to choosing mates. How many times you saw they choose assholes over nice guys, and manupilative douchebags over honest working type? It is just in their nature, deeply etched in their subconscious, and just can't be helped. Is it good or bad? neither... it is just the reality. Accept and live it.
 

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Moral of the story: Liers get pussies, until they lose it and kill or break laws.

Just legalize polygomy, problems solved. We find some muslim countries customs apalling, I wonder what if they mock us for letting women control men in the west.
Western women think they deserve to be treated like princess while in reality, it is not possible. At the same time they cannot help but be attracted to assholes who have to turn to deception to keep their woman. I once had a girlfriend for almost a year, did not know my real age or what I do for living. Women in this society have such high standard and want "Mr. Perfect" it forces men to lie and deceive just to get pussies. However it does not give excuse for this guy's behavior in the article, clearly he has lost his head and has anger / emotional control issues. But it just goes to show similar problems are all around causing tons and tons of emotional pains for millions of people. If we just allowed polygamy and women just swallow their pride and accept "weaker sex" in reality, most of these problems could be avoided.
Holy shit! I don't even want to know how you reasoned this one out.
 

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You can talk about should and shouldn't all you want, but there are thousands maybe tens of thousands of sociopaths just like this guy (except that they can control their emotions so their actions stay within the confines of the law), continue to get new pussies week after week by being manupilative and deceiving, while the rest of us "honest nice guys" struggle even to get laid at all. The fact that this guy killed his wife has nothing to do with his ability to get pussies. He crossed the line, can't control his emotions of the moment. You just like to link the fact that he has many mistresses causes this tragedy because it is a comforting idea that men like him will end up in trouble, but in reality, not necessarily true.
Gender equality and feminism are the biggest delusions in modern history. Majority of women given the power of choice and freedom rarely make rational decisions when comes to choosing mates. How many times you saw they choose assholes over nice guys, and manupilative douchebags over honest working type? It is just in their nature, deeply etched in their subconscious, and just can't be helped. Is it good or bad? neither... it is just the reality. Accept and live it.
HOLY CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER!!! LMFAO!!!

Somebody has problems getting women!! :p
 

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Western women think they deserve to be treated like princess while in reality, it is not possible. At the same time they cannot help but be attracted to assholes who have to turn to deception to keep their woman. I once had a girlfriend for almost a year, did not know my real age or what I do for living. Women in this society have such high standard and want "Mr. Perfect" it forces men to lie and deceive just to get pussies.
Women are forcing you to be an asshole and to deceive them??

The nerve of those bitches!! lol
 

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On the bright side, he now has a lifetime of 'gymnastic sex' waiting for him.....
I wonder if he'll still like it rough....

What a dirt bag.

OTB
 

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Sociopaths take note: if you are going to strangle your wife, don't hide the body in the garage.
 

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It's always confused me as to why people who kill someone don't get rid of the body. If the body is not found then there is no murder, as it can't be proved. If your going to kill someone why not burn the body in acid? Or chop it into pieces then put it in the oven or something. Take a big loan from the bank from your good credit, get a passport and leave the country to somewhere like new zealand and your good to go.
 
This will be my only response to this thread, cos I think I recognize a lost cause when I see/read it.

Thanks for your take on "reality" Zardoz, including the observation that if we humour horny sociopaths our problems will be solved. Great insight. Let's give it a try.

A woman gets slaughtered, cut up like chattel and of course it's the fault of repressive feminists and their delusional disciples incapable of rational thought; end result of equality and enforced social convention inciting nutcases to commit unspeakable evil. Great thesis: Yup, legalizing polygamy and putting women in their rightful place sucking dick will solve everything.

In your state of mind IMO you are hardly in a position to assess the "rational" of the majority of women nor estimate the percentage of sociopaths among us capable of remorseless murder, let alone the state of the collective or individual.

It's a rich irony indeed when irrational hate opens malicious mouth to propose "rational" solution. Anyone care to say "Final?" It's a slippery slope indeed: start with the premise that all individuals are not equal at birth and then see how deep into the mire one can sink from there.
 

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This will be my only response to this thread, cos I think I recognize a lost cause when I see/read it.

Thanks for your take on "reality" Zardoz, including the observation that if we humour horny sociopaths our problems will be solved. Great insight. Let's give it a try.

A woman gets slaughtered, cut up like chattel and of course it's the fault of repressive feminists and their delusional disciples incapable of rational thought; end result of equality and enforced social convention inciting nutcases to commit unspeakable evil. Great thesis: Yup, legalizing polygamy and putting women in their rightful place sucking dick will solve everything.

In your state of mind IMO you are hardly in a position to assess the "rational" of the majority of women nor estimate the percentage of sociopaths among us capable of remorseless murder, let alone the state of the collective or individual.

It's a rich irony indeed when irrational hate opens malicious mouth to propose "rational" solution. Anyone care to say "Final?" It's a slippery slope indeed: start with the premise that all individuals are not equal at birth and then see how deep into the mire one can sink from there.
ignore zardoz and gcostenza, I think they are friends in real life or something, they are both trolls, they feed on responses. Ignore him and they go away.
 

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You can talk about should and shouldn't all you want, but there are thousands maybe tens of thousands of sociopaths just like this guy (except that they can control their emotions so their actions stay within the confines of the law), continue to get new pussies week after week by being manupilative and deceiving, while the rest of us "honest nice guys" struggle even to get laid at all. The fact that this guy killed his wife has nothing to do with his ability to get pussies. He crossed the line, can't control his emotions of the moment. You just like to link the fact that he has many mistresses causes this tragedy because it is a comforting idea that men like him will end up in trouble, but in reality, not necessarily true.
Gender equality and feminism are the biggest delusions in modern history. Majority of women given the power of choice and freedom rarely make rational decisions when comes to choosing mates. How many times you saw they choose assholes over nice guys, and manupilative douchebags over honest working type? It is just in their nature, deeply etched in their subconscious, and just can't be helped. Is it good or bad? neither... it is just the reality. Accept and live it.
Reality? Women like guys who genuinely treat them well, but such guys are extremely rare. Most of those guys who whine about how women don't like nice guys aren't really very nice at all, they're just passive-aggressive, and apparently lots of women prefer straightforwardly aggressive to passive-aggressive (which seems reasonable enough to me).
 

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You guys can laugh at zardoz, I know he's a great target due to his shenanigans.

But in my experience when I was the nice guy, I barely got any tail. I opened doors, was nice, bought gifts, did nice things like walk women to their cars at night and so on. How was I rewarded? Usually, with a kiss on the cheek and "You're such a nice guy, I can't believe you're single!".

This would of course confuse the hell out of me because these same girls were generally unsuccessful with men. They'd date guys that were the polar opposite of me, always crying about something their bf did, on how he's such an asshole but they'd always go back.

One day on the internet, I stumbled across some pick up artist material. I read through it and was completely stunned by the advice given. I kept telling myself that there's no way any girl would fall it. Sure, I had seen many women falling for assholes but I thought that's how they are and I couldn't be like that. Over time, I got sick of not scoring and seeing other guys getting rewarded for their alpha male behavior, so I said what the hell and tried it.

I bombed a few times, choked from anxiety attacks but I continued to plow through and I got better. A lot better. And yeah, women adore men who treat them poorly.

I'd deliver a neg (back-handed compliment), their eyes light up. I push and pull (going between hot and cold, back and forth), their eyes light up. I wouldn't call them back for weeks and then show up unannounced, their eyes light up. When they fish for a compliment, I drop a neg with a indifference ending (ex. I really liked you because I thought you weren't shallow... but now that I'm looking at you, I think it's a nice dress..... I guess.) and their eyes light up.

So yeah, if you're not happy with your success with women and want to do something about it. Accept reality, accept how women work and learn pick up.

As for this wife, she knew her man was a monster. No normal sane man kills his wife because she discovered his affairs. This man is a psychopath. He must have exhibited behavior that indicated his true nature to her and she probably lapped it up, thinking she had a "real bad boy" on her hands that she could "fix or save him" with her feminine charms.
 

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It's always confused me as to why people who kill someone don't get rid of the body. If the body is not found then there is no murder, as it can't be proved. If your going to kill someone why not burn the body in acid? Or chop it into pieces then put it in the oven or something. Take a big loan from the bank from your good credit, get a passport and leave the country to somewhere like new zealand and your good to go.
Lots of convictions for murder with no body found. Depends on how strong the State's circumstantial evidence is.
 

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The guy who killed his wife is an ass.

He didn't need to do it. He was having his affairs long before he married her. If he wanted to be a single player typre, don't get married. If he wanted to marry anyway, and still see other girls, be discreet. However he kept on living the single player lifestyle. He had only been married 5 months. His wife said she'd forgive him if he wanted to give up the other girls. So he had all the options open - if he wanted to be with the mistress he could have gotten a divorce. If he wated to stay with his wife he could have done that. If he wanted to stay with the wife and be discreet, there was that too. No reason at all to kill his wife. Yeah, I wonder if he still will like rough sex in jail when he's on the receiving end.

As for the other discussion on alpha males vs nice guys...it is a difficult one to get a perfect answer to. Yes, many women like arrogant alpha males. We can trace this to biology (they subconciously want their offspring to be alphas) or upbringing (Dad was an alpha and they are used to being around that type and go with what they know), or they want to shake off a goody two shoes image, etc. However, lots of girls like nice guys. My brother is currently dating one - she hates alphas and loves kind considerate guys - and he is visiting the promised land regularly.

I have been on the nice guy 'peck on the cheek' dates in my 20's and it is frustrating, but I find that the situation usually comes about when the girl doesn't want to date the guy really - in that she isn't attracted to him sexually. Because he is nice and clearly likes her, she humours him by dating him- usually when her social calender has some open slots - because she knows he will listen to what she has to say, take her to nice places, buy her gifts, etc. She likes the attention. But since she has no sexual drive to sleep with him, he gets the peck on the cheek. The smart player type girls will sleep with Mr Nice anyway even though they have no burning desire to as this will ensure they get even more stuff in future. However, most aren't that smart/devious, and don't want to sleep with him as that wouldn't be 'being true to themselves'. One such date told me "If only you were a girl you would be totally my best friend forever as I love spending time with you - but I don't feel any urge to have sex with you" Ouch! :( However, looking back, when I got in these situations it was usually because I dated out of my league and tried to get around the initial brush off by being nice and persistant. So I won her over to get the first date, went all out to win her over, and the second, third, etc flowed from there as I made sure she had a great time out with me. But, she did start off by trying to brush me off as not interested. So my attempts at changing her mind almost always got me in the "nice guy I don't want to sleep with" category. I wasn't passive aggressive, I just wanted to win over a girl who wasn't initially atteracted to me because I was really attracted to her.

I have met, dated and slept with girls who like nice guys, so they do exist.
 

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Moral of the story: Liers get pussies, until they lose it and kill or break laws.

Just legalize polygomy, problems solved. We find some muslim countries customs apalling, I wonder what if they mock us for letting women control men in the west.
Western women think they deserve to be treated like princess while in reality, it is not possible. At the same time they cannot help but be attracted to assholes who have to turn to deception to keep their woman. I once had a girlfriend for almost a year, did not know my real age or what I do for living. Women in this society have such high standard and want "Mr. Perfect" it forces men to lie and deceive just to get pussies. However it does not give excuse for this guy's behavior in the article, clearly he has lost his head and has anger / emotional control issues. But it just goes to show similar problems are all around causing tons and tons of emotional pains for millions of people. If we just allowed polygamy and women just swallow their pride and accept "weaker sex" in reality, most of these problems could be avoided.
Please Zardoz, join us in the 21st century , we have a lot to teach you.
 

GPIDEAL

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You can talk about should and shouldn't all you want, but there are thousands maybe tens of thousands of sociopaths just like this guy (except that they can control their emotions so their actions stay within the confines of the law), continue to get new pussies week after week by being manupilative and deceiving, while the rest of us "honest nice guys" struggle even to get laid at all. The fact that this guy killed his wife has nothing to do with his ability to get pussies. He crossed the line, can't control his emotions of the moment. You just like to link the fact that he has many mistresses causes this tragedy because it is a comforting idea that men like him will end up in trouble, but in reality, not necessarily true.
Gender equality and feminism are the biggest delusions in modern history. Majority of women given the power of choice and freedom rarely make rational decisions when comes to choosing mates. How many times you saw they choose assholes over nice guys, and manupilative douchebags over honest working type? It is just in their nature, deeply etched in their subconscious, and just can't be helped. Is it good or bad? neither... it is just the reality. Accept and live it.
Name me one sociopath who can control their 'emotions'?

I only know of those who are in prison (Paul Bernardo) and that haven't already been executed or killed while incarcerated.

The outlawing or absence of polygomy is no defence here.

This guy could've had 10 affairs with married women as a single guy, or he could've left his wife instead of killing her. He had a choice but chose a destructive path instead. Don't blame women.
 

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I have been on the nice guy 'peck on the cheek' dates in my 20's and it is frustrating, but I find that the situation usually comes about when the girl doesn't want to date the guy really - in that she isn't attracted to him sexually. Because he is nice and clearly likes her, she humours him by dating him- usually when her social calender has some open slots - because she knows he will listen to what she has to say, take her to nice places, buy her gifts, etc. She likes the attention. But since she has no sexual drive to sleep with him, he gets the peck on the cheek. The smart player type girls will sleep with Mr Nice anyway even though they have no burning desire to as this will ensure they get even more stuff in future. However, most aren't that smart/devious, and don't want to sleep with him as that wouldn't be 'being true to themselves'. One such date told me "If only you were a girl you would be totally my best friend forever as I love spending time with you - but I don't feel any urge to have sex with you" Ouch! :( However, looking back, when I got in these situations it was usually because I dated out of my league and tried to get around the initial brush off by being nice and persistant. So I won her over to get the first date, went all out to win her over, and the second, third, etc flowed from there as I made sure she had a great time out with me. But, she did start off by trying to brush me off as not interested. So my attempts at changing her mind almost always got me in the "nice guy I don't want to sleep with" category. I wasn't passive aggressive, I just wanted to win over a girl who wasn't initially atteracted to me because I was really attracted to her.

I have met, dated and slept with girls who like nice guys, so they do exist.
Dating out of your league may be the problem for a lot of nice guys, but I still maintain that not actually being all that nice is, for most of them, a big part of the problem. Not doing a few of the things the jerks she dates do, listening to her whining while patiently holding your tongue, providing lots of insincere flattery and self-serving advice; these things do not make a guy a rare and valuable commodity, and if that's all a guy is bringing to the table (as is the case with many nice guys), he's not going to get far with a woman who has anything to offer. Her "jerk" boyfriends probably at least offer good looks and/or good sex. Actually respecting someone and treating them well is actually not all that easy, but if you can manage it, it can be something you bring to the table that can get you into a higher league (I base this on my own experience; I always thought I was a decent enough guy, but I'm now of the opinion that I've usually been wrong about that in the past. At present, I still have a very hard time sustaining it, but when I am actually managing it, I get a very good response even from very attractive women).
 
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