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Miss Japan not 100% Japanese - AWESOME!!!

buttercup

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David Silva has a Spanish father and Japanese mother. Look what a fine player he is. He could have played for Spain or Japan, and he chose Spain. Never heard any issue over whether he was allowed to play for Japan. Same debate though.
 

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If she was born in Japan, she is Japanese. What's wrong? I think it's awesome and progressive.
 

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I'm so glad I live in a country where the majority of people wouldn't be bothered if a woman whose dad was Mongolian and mother from Kapuskasing was representing Canada. Unfortunately in a country where national purity and immigration like Japan are a big deal, it's still an issue.
 

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Even if Miss Japan came from Okinawa, or was a Hokkaido Ainu, then in the view of many in Japan, she would not be 100% Japanese. Racist, insular, xenophobic views of Imperial Japan are not hard to see in Shinzo Abe and company. I wonder what repercussions if any have the judges who chose this brave biracial beauty queen, have suffered? It is clear that with the declining birth rates and negative population growth in Japan, the Japanese prefer extinction rather than to see an increase in the "hafu" or "gajin" population.
 

glamphotographer

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Most Japanese people are descendants from Chinese and Korean people. So what is their definition of pure Japanese?
 

mjg1

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If she was born in Japan, she is Japanese. What's wrong? I think it's awesome and progressive.
That's a wonderful statement, too bad most Japanese people don't think like that!

I wonder, since she's part black, is that a bit of extra "shunning".
 

Samurai Joey

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If she was born in Japan, she is Japanese. What's wrong? I think it's awesome and progressive.
That has not been historically true -- until 1985, citizenship/nationality in Japan has been traced through the citizenship/nationality of the father. This is something that I have personal experience with.
 

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That has not been historically true -- until 1985, citizenship/nationality in Japan has been traced through the citizenship/nationality of the father. This is something that I have personal experience with.
Before 1985, if the father was not Japanese, was their offspring born in Japan not given citizenship rights like voting, healthcare and pension. Could they deported even?
 

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Congrats to Ariana for scoring a victory for "hafu's", it must not have been an easy task.
Maybe this is sign of true change or maybe just international lip service but I hope for the former.

Japan has very deep routed traditions and beliefs, which can viewed like many thing with pro's and con's. I am not to saying right or wrong of their culture or policies but Japan has also faced and overcome many difficult challenges and their nation continues to face many more.

Its true their population is shrinking due to their low birth-rate, and they aren't looking to open their boarders for immigration even in the face economic turmoil http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2014/03/japans-demography
some other long term forecasts call for the eventual extinction of the Japanese race in the not too distant future. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...l-issues/japan-becoming-extinct/#.VX9MPemCOrV
 

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I think Canadian-Japanese mix Maria Ozawa helped pave the way :
 

nottyboi

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I think Canadian-Japanese mix Maria Ozawa helped pave the way :
I wonder how millions of Japanese men felt when they realized they dreamed of having their dick sucked by a non pure Japanese. It was a blow (pun intended) to the myth racial superiority.
 

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The Japanese are so racist but they have no problems letting foreigners marry, date, sleep with and make children with their women. when foreigners(mostly white men) say that Japan is racist they only mean the men not the women.
 

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I'm so glad I live in a country where the majority of people wouldn't be bothered if a woman whose dad was Mongolian and mother from Kapuskasing was representing Canada.
HAHAHAHAHAHA, you're either super funny or naive. Seriously, we can claim Toronto being multicultural and all that but speaking as someone of South Asian descent, I can say Canada as a whole has a long way to go before a non-white person is placed in a position where they represent the nation in any way, even something as mindless as a pageant (if anything, it's because it's a pageant where the only thing that matters are superficial trivialities that we will be hard pressed to find a non-white person representing Canada in any type of media spotlight).
 

Samurai Joey

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Before 1985, if the father was not Japanese, was their offspring born in Japan not given citizenship rights like voting, healthcare and pension. Could they deported even?
In Japan's nationality laws, citizenship is tied to one's historic ancestral region where they are registered, and to one's family genealogy tied to that area. Prior to 1985, citizenship was automatic if the father was Japanese (since any child of his would inherit his genealogy and his ties to his ancestral region). Furthermore, every individual had a genealogical record identifying who the father & mother was.

If the father was non-Japanese (and does not naturalize as a Japanese citizen, an option open to him by accepting the genealogy of his wife's family, in essence being adopted into the wife's family), then the family had two options - either register the child under the citizenship of the father, or register the child under the mother's family and leave any mention of the father out of the child's record.

The problem with the second option is that would essentially make the child illegitimate in the eyes of Japanese society, & Japanese society has had deep prejudices against such children, and would affect the child's future job prospects, among other things. Because of such problems, the law was changed in 1985.

Hope this answers your question.
 
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