More good news for Joe

[Frankfooter]

I'm curious Frank. Do you consider yourself a Marxist? This seems to be coming out stronger in your posts more and more. Do you believe there isn't anything the government shouldn't provide for its population? I think you were hinting towards wage and price controls in another post.

I have true Marxist friends who won't publicly declare it. You tell them that wanting to regulate and control almost all of the productive side of the economy is Marxist and they snap back they accept free enterprise. (They don't exactly embrace it.) The problem is if the government controls too much and takes away too many of the incentives that motivate people and businesses you will have a stagnant economy.

I'm curious Wyatt, are you so far right that everyone looks like a commie in comparison?
My views are totally mainstream in Canada, liberal with maybe a bit of NDP.

Right wingers don't seem to be able to understand a) the difference between socialism and communism and b) that they support some forms of socialism already.

 

[The Oracle]

I'm curious Wyatt, are you so far right that everyone looks like a commie in comparison?
My views are totally mainstream in Canada, liberal with maybe a bit of NDP.

A bit of NDP lol.

 

[Frankfooter]

A bit of NDP lol.

Yup.
Up here nobody calls you a commie for defending public health care.

 

[The Oracle]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582539246325243904

I'm in favour of just ending these charades called press briefings.

Although the level of flat out lying is epic at times.

Ands before the hive starts chirping in. That goes for both sides.

 

[Butler1000]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582835120549302272

Ouch!......Quite the different tone some 19 years ago.

The racist dog whistles are profound.

 

[Frankfooter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1582539246325243904

I'm in favour of just ending these charades called press briefings.

Although the level of flat out lying is epic at times.

Ands before the hive starts chirping in. That goes for both sides.

You think it impossible that with lower gas prices people are paying $120 less a month?

 

[WyattEarp]

He will win because it's Florida. I don't agree it is a competitive state, it is a red strong hold.

Pundit or no pundit, if you watch the entire debate, it is obvious he had his lunch handed to him but as I mentioned he will still win.

I think you are forcing the point about red strong hold. DeSantis won the 2018 Florida Governor's race 49.6% to Gillum 49.2% (definitely not a moderate). He's solidified his popularity through his first term.

There's an odd and bizarre strategy both parties seem to be employing in competitive states. The state candidates start to sound a lot like the national party. In the recent past, Florida Democrats won elections and were considered moderates on Capital Hill. Now you might think current Gubernatorial candidate Charlie Christ is a moderate, but he's known for being an opportunist who has recently has had to acquiesce to the Left.

By the way, most of the media thinks Democrats always win the debate. If you hear the things you want to here from a candidate, you're going to be influenced by your views. Donald Trump did well in some debates and did poorly in others. He never sounded like the rogue that he was. Even Biden performed fairly well in the 2020 debates even if he sounded too scripted to me.

Rubio didn't really have to "win" the debate. He just needed to do an adequate job. I presume he didn't have a lapse where he repeated himself five times. Rubio is not a dynamic debater. I will actually watch the DeSantis-Crist debate. I think DeSantis will be a good debater and he's clearly a national candidate. Crist is no slouch either.

 

[WyattEarp]

I'm curious Wyatt, are you so far right that everyone looks like a commie in comparison?
My views are totally mainstream in Canada, liberal with maybe a bit of NDP.

Right wingers don't seem to be able to understand a) the difference between socialism and communism and b) that they support some forms of socialism already.

I know a lot of Canadians. I don't believe you are at the center of Canadian politics.

Social media might give you a distorted view. The far left participants are louder and more aggressive than anyone else.

The question isn't socialism or communism. The question is do you ever think there's areas of the economy where government should stay out of the way. If you think government should try to do or regulate almost every economic activity, that's more a Marxist tinge than socialism. I think even the Swedes have backtracked from too much "socialism".

In my opinion, you resemble the French center more than the Canadian center.

 

[Frankfooter]

I know a lot of Canadians. I don't believe you are at the center of Canadian politics.

Social media might give you a distorted view. The far left participants are louder and more aggressive than anyone else.

The question isn't socialism or communism. The question is do you ever think there's areas of the economy where government should stay out of the way. If you think government should try to do or regulate almost every economic activity, that's more a Marxist tinge than socialism. I think even the Swedes have backtracked from too much "socialism".

In my opinion, you resemble the French center more than the Canadian center.

Your opinion is not informed on Canadian views.
You can complain, and fairly, that we don't know all that's going on down there but then you should you also understand you don't know what's going on here.
Even if you do have a couple of likely right wing, Canadian friends.

 

[squeezer]

I think you are forcing the point about red strong hold. DeSantis won the 2018 Florida Governor's race 49.6% to Gillum 49.2% (definitely not a moderate). He's solidified his popularity through his first term.

The data shows differently

Florida Presidential Election Voting History - 270toWin

Information on how the residents of Florida have voted in presidential elections. Includes trends and polls for the 2024 election, as well as a Florida voting history and narrative.

www.270towin.com

 

[WyattEarp]

The data shows differently

Florida Presidential Election Voting History - 270toWin

Information on how the residents of Florida have voted in presidential elections. Includes trends and polls for the 2024 election, as well as a Florida voting history and narrative.

www.270towin.com

Did you even bother to look at the data closely?

The Republican Presidential candidate has received 49.1% or less four out of the last six elections. Obama carried it twice. Trump carried it twice. That my friend is the definition of competitive. Are you going to argue that Florida should flip-flop every four years to be deemed competitive?

I have some thoughts on why it might appear Florida is slipping away. I won't go into it because it will disturb the narrative that so others hold on to dearly and try to slog here. So for now.......let's just say Obama won the state twice and now racists from up north are moving into the State.

 

[squeezer]

Did you even bother to look at the data closely?

The Republican Presidential candidate has received 49.1% or less four out of the last six elections. Obama carried it twice. Trump carried it twice. That my friend is the definition of competitive. Are you going to argue that Florida should flip-flop every four years to be deemed competitive?

I have some thoughts on why it might appear Florida is slipping away. I won't go into it because it will disturb the narrative that so others hold on to dearly and try to slog here. So for now.......let's just say Obama won the state twice and now racists from up north are moving into the State.

You are focusing in on the Presidential race which I figured you would. LOL

Have a peek at the House and Senate races since we are looking at the mid-terms unless it is 2024 and I am living in 2022.

 

[WyattEarp]

You are focusing in on the Presidential race which I figured you would. LOL

Have a peek at the House and Senate races since we are looking at the mid-terms unless it is 2024 and I am living in 2022.

Why would we focus on House races? That's where we get extreme margins in both directions.

Rubio is a fairly popular incumbent. Being a Cuban-American certainly doesn't hurt in Florida. He only received 49% in his first Senate victory in 2010. He received 52% in his 2016 reelection.

Then there's Rick Scott's Senate election. Rick Scott was a two-time Governor so name recognition is as good as it gets in a state. He won his Senate seat 50.03% to 49.93% in 2018.

If Rubio wins big November 6, it's because Deming wasn't a strong candidate and/or the Republicans have a good night across the country.

squeeze, are you really trying to out orbit Frankie? No one's going to beat him in rotations.

 

[WyattEarp]

Your opinion is not informed on Canadian views.
You can complain, and fairly, that we don't know all that's going on down there but then you should you also understand you don't know what's going on here.
Even if you do have a couple of likely right wing, Canadian friends.

There is a lot more to Canada than just Toronto. I don't even think I have the entire pulse of the United States living in one large American city.

I know for sure from frequent visits to Canada that in general Canadians don't carry the anti-American sentiment that you carry around. It infects all your thinking about the American polity loudly and clearly.

 

[squeezer]

Looks like a Fox host once and a while does her job

 

[squeezer]

Why would we focus on House races? That's where we get extreme margins in both directions.

Rubio is a fairly popular incumbent. Being a Cuban-American certainly doesn't hurt in Florida. He only received 49% in his first Senate victory in 2010. He received 52% in his 2016 reelection.

Then there's Rick Scott's Senate election. Rick Scott was a two-time Governor so name recognition is as good as it gets in a state. He won his Senate seat 50.03% to 49.93% in 2018.

If Rubio wins big November 6, it's because Deming wasn't a strong candidate and/or the Republicans have a good night across the country.

squeeze, are you really trying to out orbit Frankie? No one's going to beat him in rotations.

You claimed they were competitive, I showed you the data that says otherwise Presidential elections aside, what don't you understand? I agree Rubio will win it even though he's a liar and has become a kiss-ass to the NRA.

 

[WyattEarp]

You claimed they were competitive, I showed you the data that says otherwise Presidential elections aside, what don't you understand? I agree Rubio will win it even though he's a liar and has become a kiss-ass to the NRA.

squeeze, don't dig in.

The recent Presidential, Governor and Senatorial races have all been competitive in Florida. This year is just not a good year for the Democrats nationwide and in Florida. You have to realize that when the pundits say the Democrats have a good chance of holding the Senate, the Republicans are defending 24 seats and the Democrats only 14 seats. That creates an uphill battle for the Republicans to try to win control of the Senate. So on election night, the Republicans will definitely win a large majority of the Senate seats and likely the House.

I will give you an opportunity to point to a recent Florida Presidential, Governor or Senate race where the Republican ran up a sizeable majority one could say unequivocally that the race was not competitive. I might be a dick for pushing you on this, but you went down this path where you were posting articles but not referencing any facts.

 

[jcpro]

Back to the thread. Looks like only the ideologues, crazies and the dead still believe.

Biden approval rating in Iowa hits 35%, nearly 3 in 4 say country on wrong track: poll

Approval ratings for President Biden and his administration's performance are sitting at 35% in Iowa, with a large majority of polled voters saying the nation is heading in the wrong direction.

www.foxnews.com

 

[squeezer]

squeeze, don't dig in.

The recent Presidential, Governor and Senatorial races have all been competitive in Florida. This year is just not a good year for the Democrats nationwide and in Florida. You have to realize that when the pundits say the Democrats have a good chance of holding the Senate, the Republicans are defending 24 seats and the Democrats only 14 seats. That creates an uphill battle for the Republicans to try to win control of the Senate. So on election night, the Republicans will definitely win a large majority of the Senate seats and likely the House.

I will give you an opportunity to point to a recent Florida Presidential, Governor or Senate race where the Republican ran up a sizeable majority one could say unequivocally that the race was not competitive. I might be a dick for pushing you on this, but you went down this path where you were posting articles but not referencing any facts.

Hmmmm, let's try it this way. Please look at this link and show me where Florida is a blue state. It looks as red as a steak before going on the grill.

Red States 2025

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

Maybe I am color blind so please, show me, enlighten me with your brilliance.

ps...I'm digging and I like it.

 

[jcpro]

Hmmmm, let's try it this way. Please look at this link and show me where Florida is a blue state. It looks as red as a steak before going on the grill.

Red States 2025

Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.

worldpopulationreview.com

Maybe I am color blind so please, show me, enlighten me with your brilliance.

ps...I'm digging and I like it.

What about "back to the thread" confuse you? The title of this thread is "More good news for Joe". I started it as the tribute to Joe's achievements. I would like to see it stay this way.