motivated reasoning and Rush LImbaugh

[Zoot Allures]

Motivated reasoning is similar to confirmation bias, where evidence that confirms a belief (which might be a logical belief, rather than an emotional one) is either sought after more or given more credibility than evidence that disconfirms a belief. It stands in contrast to critical thinking where beliefs are approached in a skeptical and unbiased fashion.


Social science research suggests that reasoning away contradictions is psychologically easier than revising feelings.. Feelings come first, and evidence is used in service of those feelings. Evidence that supports what is already believed is accepted. Evidence which contradicts those beliefs is not.

Such self delusional thinking can apply to even bright people like LImbaugh



Limbaugh so successfully spread lies among his listeners because he believed them while still being so bright .

Think of Trump, Tony Robbins, religious leaders , etc

The best sales people are lost in motivated lies

I find it incredible that intelligent people can so easily live a lie thanks to motivated reasoning

Why do some bright people believe lies and others do not? Very confusing

 

[oil&gas]

How can the best sales people get the job
done by being honest?

 

[t.o.leafs.fan]

'Motivated reasoning' ...I would plunk this label on the woke crowd, too. Most/all media. 95% of posters here.

 

[K Douglas]

Its quite funny to see how leftist 'elites' keep introducing these concepts to denigrate those with strong conservative beliefs while hypocritically ignoring their own brethren's use of such. As for critical thinking, that is something that is largely foreign to the woke liberal crowd. The likes of AOC and her squad members wouldn't know how to think critically even if came up and smacked them in the head. These tactics are common coming from the left to obfuscate from the reality that they can't win on policy arguments with the right.

 

[mandrill]

Its quite funny to see how leftist 'elites' keep introducing these concepts to denigrate those with strong conservative beliefs while hypocritically ignoring their own brethren's use of such. As for critical thinking, that is something that is largely foreign to the woke liberal crowd. The likes of AOC and her squad members wouldn't know how to think critically even if came up and smacked them in the head. These tactics are common coming from the left to obfuscate from the reality that they can't win on policy arguments with the right.

So, let me understand this.

You're suggesting that Rush was a notable "critical thinker" - as opposed to a guy who parlayed a gift of gab and allied it to shock jock tactics and Joe 6-pack level "conservative thinking" to build a show biz empire that ended up so lucrative and powerful that it made and destroyed GOP political careers?

I would be the first to concede that RL had significant talents and once in a generation show biz insight, but "critical thinker" he was not - unless making cheap, bigotted jokes about gays, abortion, uppity women and blacks is your standard of "critical thinking". And if the latter, that's on you.

 

[squeezer]

Its quite funny to see how leftist 'elites' keep introducing these concepts to denigrate those with strong conservative beliefs while hypocritically ignoring their own brethren's use of such. As for critical thinking, that is something that is largely foreign to the woke liberal crowd. The likes of AOC and her squad members wouldn't know how to think critically even if came up and smacked them in the head. These tactics are common coming from the left to obfuscate from the reality that they can't win on policy arguments with the right.

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[K Douglas]

So, let me understand this.

You're suggesting that Rush was a notable "critical thinker" - as opposed to a guy who parlayed a gift of gab and allied it to shock jock tactics and Joe 6-pack level "conservative thinking" to build a show biz empire that ended up so lucrative and powerful that it made and destroyed GOP political careers?

I would be the first to concede that RL had significant talents and once in a generation show biz insight, but "critical thinker" he was not - unless making cheap, bigotted jokes about gays, abortion, uppity women and blacks is your standard of "critical thinking". And if the latter, that's on you.

Absolutely. If you actually listened to his show, instead of just sound bites or reading critics comments, you would know that. This dude's understanding of the Constitution was at advanced levels. Likely better than many constitutional scholars and lawyers. He was extremely bright and an avid reader.

 

[K Douglas]

You need this and ASAP-

Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

You're very welcome!

I'm doing just fine thanks.

 

[kherg007]

Critical thinking gathers data, evaluates it, draws a conclusion. Cynics start with the conclusion, and seek only data that supports that conclusion. Evidence against is ignored or denigrated.

 

[K Douglas]

Critical thinking gathers data, evaluates it, draws a conclusion. Cynics start with the conclusion, and seek only data that supports that conclusion. Evidence against is ignored or denigrated.

And therein you have just described the mantra of modern liberalism/progressivism. Except they even go a step further by using flawed/illogical data or opinion/conjecture to support their conclusions.

 

[kherg007]

And therein you have just described the mantra of modern liberalism/progressivism.

Not really. The extremes at both ends are the political spectrum are the cynics. Not all liberals or progressives.

 

[mandrill]

Absolutely. If you actually listened to his show, instead of just sound bites or reading critics comments, you would know that. This dude's understanding of the Constitution was at advanced levels. Likely better than many constitutional scholars and lawyers. He was extremely bright and an avid reader.

Based on what? Your own layman's vast insight into the Constitution?

Have you ever read learned papers by Constitutional scholars for the purposes of comparison?

Not trying to be a dick here, but I'm guessing that he whined about abortion, gun rights and free speech a lot, tagged the right constitutional amendment # most of the time and impressed his listeners, most of whom had a grade 12 education and worked as blue collar tradesmen.

And the fact that the guy was bright - and I believe he was as well - doesn't make him a critical thinker.

 

[jalimon]

Believing the likes of Rush, Trump, Jones ... Is like truly believing your escort really likes you

 

[squeezer]

And the fact that the guy was bright - and I believe he was as well - doesn't make him a critical thinker.

I disagree on bright unless one considers street smarts bright. I will say he possessed the gift of gab. He had some conman traits which made him hook in the suckers!

I wonder when Alex Jones keels over after a massive heart attack if all the righties will cry like they are over Rush.

The Rush Limbaugh Effect: Watch As Ideology Makes a Smart Man Stupid

The radio host insists that cops, firefighters, and teachers belong to the private sector rather than the public -- simply because he values what they do.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[Tomoreno]

Is like truly believing your escort really likes you

Haven't you read reviews lately?

- i went in for daty. She was very receptive and had 12 orgasms

- she complimented how hard i was, said she hever seen one so hard

- we had great chemistry, she really enjoyed my company

Etc, etc, etc...

 

[jcpro]

And therein you have just described the mantra of modern liberalism/progressivism. Except they even go a step further by using flawed/illogical data or opinion/conjecture to support their conclusions.

Critical thinking among the lefties???? ROFLMFAO!!! I grew up in the "scientific socialism"- they even had universities and "professors" teaching the theory and the application of the ramblings of Marx, Engels and Lenin(Stalin was out by the time I arrived) to create a social and the economic system to "advance" cause of humanity, to create a new man- homo sovieticus we called it with a laugh. A gigantic farce on the continental scale erected on top of millions of corpses, but they sure employed "science" to achieve it. When I see lefties use lofty words like "science" or "critical thinking" I burst into laughter.

 

[y2kmark]

So, let me understand this.

You're suggesting that Rush was a notable "critical thinker" - as opposed to a guy who parlayed a gift of gab and allied it to shock jock tactics and Joe 6-pack level "conservative thinking" to build a show biz empire that ended up so lucrative and powerful that it made and destroyed GOP political careers?

I would be the first to concede that RL had significant talents and once in a generation show biz insight, but "critical thinker" he was not - unless making cheap, bigotted jokes about gays, abortion, uppity women and blacks is your standard of "critical thinking". And if the latter, that's on you.

One of the few times I was able to tolerate the El Rushblow show for more than a minute or two, Uber A-hole was talking about how he got his start. He had an on air talk show (forget where, but small scale, small market) and he decided to report some off the wall story as a joke. The station quickly got him to stop because lots of people took him seriously and called the station in panic. Rush, being smart guy, decided his Dittiots would buy anything he said and he could make himself rich as long as he didn't worry about making any effort to do good in the world. The highest bidders for this sort of talent are, of course, the segment of the 1% that likes things the way they are. Sucks, don't it?

 

[mandrill]

Critical thinking among the lefties???? ROFLMFAO!!! I grew up in the "scientific socialism"- they even had universities and "professors" teaching the theory and the application of the ramblings of Marx, Engels and Lenin(Stalin was out by the time I arrived) to create a social and the economic system to "advance" cause of humanity, to create a new man- homo sovieticus we called it with a laugh. A gigantic farce on the continental scale erected on top of millions of corpses, but they sure employed "science" to achieve it. When I see lefties use lofty words like "science" or "critical thinking" I burst into laughter.

JC, you know that was Soviet Eastern Europe 50 years ago and not Canada today, huh?

I'm just checking on this?

 

[Valcazar]

Why do some bright people believe lies and others do not? Very confusing

Not really. Smart doesn't make you much better and not being susceptible to lies.

Its quite funny to see how leftist 'elites' keep introducing these concepts to denigrate those with strong conservative beliefs while hypocritically ignoring their own brethren's use of such.

You think "the left" made up the concept of motivated reasoning to denigrate Conservatives?

Absolutely. If you actually listened to his show, instead of just sound bites or reading critics comments, you would know that. This dude's understanding of the Constitution was at advanced levels. Likely better than many constitutional scholars and lawyers. He was extremely bright and an avid reader.

Wow...

Critical thinking gathers data, evaluates it, draws a conclusion. Cynics start with the conclusion, and seek only data that supports that conclusion. Evidence against is ignored or denigrated.

I wouldn't call that last part "cynics". I don't think that's the right term for it.

 

[Big Rig]

Based on what? Your own layman's vast insight into the Constitution?

Have you ever read learned papers by Constitutional scholars for the purposes of comparison?

Not trying to be a dick here, but I'm guessing that he whined about abortion, gun rights and free speech a lot, tagged the right constitutional amendment # most of the time and impressed his listeners, most of whom had a grade 12 education and worked as blue collar tradesmen.

And the fact that the guy was bright - and I believe he was as well - doesn't make him a critical thinker.

Excellent critical thinking on your part

I listened to Rush on the road but had to stop as it was so painful to my critical thinking

His appeal was he sounded athoritative
so people assummed he was

One trick he used was to know the names and jobs of everyone in Washington. That is an excellent way to sound like ypu know WTF you are talling about

There is a book about his lies and it is a big book

I wonder if he believed his own BS or was laughing at his followers