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Muslims take to the streets in anger after Quebec’s move to ban public prayer

Shaquille Oatmeal

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If God doesn't exist then its all bunk. And if only one is right then the rest are all wrong.
Actually this isn't true.
There are religions where they don't worship a "God" like the monotheistic semitic religions do.
Shintoism is an example.
Mormons and Evangelicals, Jehovah witnesses, Salvation Army, all go out, show up and try to convert you. Go out front if the Eaton Centre and you can see Islamic dudes preaching.
Yes, they can preach and proselytize. It is freedom of speech.
It is also your freedom to ignore them.
You don't think EVERY major religion compels their worshippers to follow the word of their respective God and saviors/prophets?
No, they don't compel them.
Example: Butler1000 who doesn't follow the religion he was raised in and is completely free to do what he wants.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Its kind of the topic of the thread isnt it? Importing values/traditions that arent really compatible with canadian values, ie mass public prayer, child marriages, killing infidels, etc.
But that is why I asked.
You need to show 2 things: a) Do the majority of Muslims the world over practice child marriage and support child marriage? The answer is no. b) Do they come here and do child marraiges? The answer is no, again.
So there is no importation of anything and your statement is a flat out lie.
 

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But that is why I asked.
You need to show 2 things: a) Do the majority of Muslims the world over practice child marriage and support child marriage? The answer is no. b) Do they come here and do child marraiges? The answer is no, again.
So there is no importation of anything and your statement is a flat out lie.
These are some pretty alarming numbers....
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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These are some pretty alarming numbers....
...In a different part of the world.
I asked about Canada.
By the way, I asked ChatGPT for it and here is what it gave me:
Child Marriage in Canada — Summary
How many:

• Over 3,600 child marriage certificates (under 18) were issued in Canada between 2000–2018. Including informal/common-law unions, about 2,300 teens aged 15–17 were in unions in 2016.
• Child marriage still exists but at very low overall rates.
Are they primarily Muslim:
No. Studies show no link between child marriage in Canada and Muslims or Muslim communities. Most cases involve non-Muslim, mainly white or Indigenous, Canadian-born populations.
• Highest rates appear in northern territories, not Muslim communities.
 

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If Islam became the predominant religion in Canada, which it won't.
I hope they won't...Not even Sharia but..
Majority Muslim laws
-Homosexuals are illegal
-Prostitution is illegal
-you are probably able to practice another religion but might be considered an infidel
-Death Penalty (if it's justified I'm down with it)
-you can't hold hands with a lady if you're not married to her.
-honor killings are ok.
most important part...
you won't see this during summer.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I hope they won't...Not even Sharia but..
Majority Muslim laws
-Homosexuals are illegal
-Prostitution is illegal
-you are probably able to practice another religion but might be considered an infidel
-Death Penalty (if it's justified I'm down with it)
-you can't hold hands with a lady if you're not married to her.
-honor killings are ok.
most important part...
you won't see this during summer.
We are at zero risk of any of that happening.
 
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richaceg

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I saw a debate in this thread regarding religion being a cult.

And I agree. Any religion will push on you narratives that are completely cult like.

Jesus did not walk on water. He did not turn shit into wine. He did not resuscitate, just like Trump was never shot to the ear.

In Quebec, we have a political party that is trying to remove any religion from public space. And really, I am all for that.

Believe in your god or any kind of spiritual element that highlights your life (for me it's a pussy) I am all fine with that. But keep it for yourself and do not try to impose it.

That's so simple I do not know why it's such a matter for everyone.
Let's play "who lives in Jalimons" head rent free"?
 

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I hope they won't...Not even Sharia but..
Majority Muslim laws
-Homosexuals are illegal
-Prostitution is illegal
-you are probably able to practice another religion but might be considered an infidel
-Death Penalty (if it's justified I'm down with it)
-you can't hold hands with a lady if you're not married to her.
-honor killings are ok.
most important part...
you won't see this during summer.
Don't forget child marriages.


Yemen has no minimum legal age of marriage, which effectively means child marriages are not prohibited by law.
Despite attempts by human rights advocates and some government officials to set a legal minimum age of 18, powerful conservative members of the parliament have repeatedly blocked these efforts, arguing that setting an age limit is "un-Islamic" and undermines family values.
Key facts about child marriage in Yemen:
  • No Legal Age Limit: Yemen is one of the few countries in the world without a national law specifying a minimum age for marriage.
  • Prevalence: As of 2024 data analysis, approximately 30% of girls in Yemen are married before the age of 18, and 7% are married before the age of 15. The ongoing conflict and humanitarian crisis have exacerbated poverty, leading families to resort to child marriage as a coping mechanism, and the rates may now be even higher.
  • Legal Protections: While Yemen has ratified international agreements like the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which recommends a minimum marriage age of 18, these international commitments have not been fully implemented into national law.
Organizations like the UNFPA and UNICEF are working in the country to raise awareness about the dangers of child marriage and provide support and legal assistance to child brides, but the lack of a clear legal ban remains a significant obstacle.


But I guess since its only 30% and not a majority, it isn't an issue according to Shaq
 

40micmic

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Don't forget child marriages.


Yemen has no minimum legal age of marriage, which effectively means child marriages are not prohibited by law.
Despite attempts by human rights advocates and some government officials to set a legal minimum age of 18, powerful conservative members of the parliament have repeatedly blocked these efforts, arguing that setting an age limit is "un-Islamic" and undermines family values.
Key facts about child marriage in Yemen:
  • No Legal Age Limit: Yemen is one of the few countries in the world without a national law specifying a minimum age for marriage.
  • Prevalence: As of 2024 data analysis, approximately 30% of girls in Yemen are married before the age of 18, and 7% are married before the age of 15. The ongoing conflict and humanitarian crisis have exacerbated poverty, leading families to resort to child marriage as a coping mechanism, and the rates may now be even higher.
  • Legal Protections: While Yemen has ratified international agreements like the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which recommends a minimum marriage age of 18, these international commitments have not been fully implemented into national law.
Organizations like the UNFPA and UNICEF are working in the country to raise awareness about the dangers of child marriage and provide support and legal assistance to child brides, but the lack of a clear legal ban remains a significant obstacle.


But I guess since its only 30% and not a majority, it isn't an issue according to Shaq

The Muslim Personal Status Law of 1991 refers to a significant family law reform in Sudan that codified matters of marriage, divorce, custody, maintenance, and inheritance under Islamic principles. A key aspect of this law is its political significance, representing the shift of family law's regulation from religious clergy to the Islamist state. It includes provisions regarding betrothal, dowry, spousal rights, guardianship, and divorce, while also setting specific rules, such as a minimum marriage age of 10 for girls with judicial permission.

Key provisions and characteristics
  • Scope: The law covers a wide range of family matters, including marriage, betrothal, divorce, custody, maintenance, inheritance, and guardianship.
  • Political context: Its enactment in 1991 was a pivotal moment, as it marked the formal codification of family law by the state, transitioning it from the religious sphere to a political one.
  • Islamic legal basis: The law is based on Islamic Sharia principles, with the Hanafi school of jurisprudence being followed in cases not explicitly covered.
  • Marriage and betrothal: It details the pillars of marriage, validity conditions, dowry, and rights and obligations of spouses.
  • Divorce and custody: The law establishes different methods of divorce, including repudiation by the husband and dissolution by the court, as well as provisions for child custody.
  • Maintenance and inheritance: It sets rules for maintenance payments and inheritance, noting that inheritance shares for daughters are typically half of what sons receive.
  • Guardianship: The law outlines guardianship rules for marriage, minors, and property, and specifies the rights of guardians.
  • Specific controversial articles: A notable article (Article 40) allows girls to marry at age 10 with a judge's consent, though there have been reports of younger marriages occurring without this requirement. Other articles have been criticized for placing restrictions on women's rights, such as requiring a husband's permission for them to work or travel.

Impact and significance
  • Legal and social impact: The law has had a profound impact on the lives of Muslim families in Sudan, establishing a standardized legal framework for personal and family matters.
  • Controversy and reform: While it provided a codified legal structure, it has also been the subject of significant debate and criticism, particularly concerning its provisions on women's rights and gender equality. The law has been a subject of ongoing reform efforts in Sudan.
 
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