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Quest4Less

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Anyone else find it disgusting that these morons got a "mistrial"? I mean really, what the fu*k were the jurors deliberating.... these idiots started a riot, and assaulted police officers. Not to mention they also injured horses and innocent bystanders. They should have been found guilty and sent straight to jail.
 

Liminal

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Ahh...a little bit of Iraq

You don't have to live in Iraq to be exposed to fascists - they are everywhere and just get a hard-on when they think someone should be punished!
 

Liminal

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Case Closed? In your dreams

And I mean that literally. Unless reading newspapers is a stretch for you, there was a mistrial.

This not an example of a closed case, but of your closed and uninformed mind.
 

Liminal

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Yes, I know what you meant

And your "opinion-sense" is clearly out of whack with reality. If the case has resulted in a mistrial, it is not a case that's closed. That's reality. If you think the case is closed when in fact it's not, then saying you have a closed mind is a rather mild term to apply to you.

As to your closing remark, "I'm all ears", let me remind you that you are reading this, not listening to it.

Maybe your attention to detail would be greater if you stopped "snorting" and took your head out of the trough.
 
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Liminal

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Small details like a mistrial are annoying!

Calling a case closed when in fact it's a mistrial really is nit-picking!
 
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Quest4Less

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Re: Ahh...a little bit of Iraq

Liminal said:
You don't have to live in Iraq to be exposed to fascists - they are everywhere and just get a hard-on when they think someone should be punished!
So you don't think they should be punished? They brought firebombs, gas masks, and sticks with nails hammered through them to a "peacefull" protest. They assaulted police, harmed innocent people, hurt police horses, and caused damage to public property which our tax dollars must fix. So tell me why they should go scott free????

I just hope the crown decides to take them back to court again. I'll gladly sit on that panel if it ensures they pay.
 

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Bunch of A*holes...

John whatever his name is and his cronnies are a bunch of A*holes period. They are doing a lot more harm to the 'cause' they 'claim' to be fighting for then good. Like already stated they came there prepared for a riot. I don't know where they got these jurors... but those that could not see the truth slapping them in the face are no better then the thugs that showed up at this riot. When I heard the result of this trial... I just wanted to vomit.
 

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Re: Ahh...a little bit of Iraq

Liminal said:
You don't have to live in Iraq to be exposed to fascists - they are everywhere and just get a hard-on when they think someone should be punished!
The loony left wing calls everything they don't like Fascism and everyone they don't like Hitler.

This court ruling violates my sense of justice as well. Those morons are just a bunch of anarchists and they don't do the poor any good. It's just an excuse to throw a "tantrum" and damage some property, hurt some cops and horses.

Ask any parent what to do with a brat throwing a tantrum, they should be given a "time out." In this case in jail.
 

monkeylove

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These guys should be held accountable!

Ok so some might say that I am a bit of a lefty, anarchist or whatever slur they might want to sling at me. I believe that everyone should be free to do as they want!!! However, that means that my freedom ends at the tip of your nose, because of course you have the right to the same freedom.

Freedom of speech is a basic freedom. However violence is not freedom!!! Those of the Ontario Coalition Against Poverty who incite violence or perpetrate violence should be held accountable. This should not be tolerated.

If they really cared about poverty they would be better organised to fight poverty and they would also supplement their advocacy with positive actions like the food bank. It is easy to have a big mouth (like me :D ) but it is harder to find real solutions.

Just my two cents ...
 

Liminal

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Let's look at the cost

The riot produced a grand total of $16,000 in damages and the prosecution ( not counting the investigation) is estimated to cost close to $1 million of tax payers dollars.
 

Liminal

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Let's look at Clarke's salary

As of two years ago, his salary was $20,000 a year and the total budget for OCAP was $60,000. OCAP has only two paid staffers.

Since that time they have lost some funding.
 

Liminal

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Professional Protesters?

Since the beginning of time, the hungry and the homeless have rioted. Stop being so naive.
 
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Re: Let's look at the cost

Liminal said:
The riot produced a grand total of $16,000 in damages .
But you are not one of the Store Owners whose front windows were busted out because this foolishness. Money out of their hard working pockets. $16,000 is not alot of money in the grand scheme of things, but for those who were affected and had to pay for the damages, $16,000 is far too much.
 

Speedo

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So anyone who decides to bust into someone's office and causes 16-large of damage because they're pissed off with -- I don't know -- the way the office manager parts his/her hair -- should be excused?! Sorry. Not the way I see it.

These clowns -- and anyone else who engages violent lawlessness to make a point -- should get jail time. And serious jail time.
 

Quest4Less

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Justice....

Not only should these morons see jail time, but OCAP should be forced to pay for all damages (this would include health care for the victims & vet bills for the horses). They should have the money taken out of their budget. Maybe then they would think twice about further violence.

If the crown does not take them back to court then it will just encourage more violence in the future.
 

racemedic

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there title should be O.C.R.A.P.

They're are is just a group of PAID protesters, who don't give a shit about the homeless, just the money they are paid to be there. The same people are arrested all the tiem at various demonstrations, If you go to a protest wearing a mask and goggles then you are looking for for trouble and get everything you deserve. Of course that is only my observation.
 
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