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Obama blasts hedge funds as Chrysler files for bankruptcy

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As I predicted the amoral paper shuffling weasels with their MBAs took down Chrysler. Doesn't matter if they work for AIG, Enron, Worldcom, Bernie Madoff, et al., these slimy bastards are all alike. Now that they took down Chrysler, GM will be their next target unless stopped!....:mad:
Can just imagine the 'spin' our 'corporatist lickspittles' will put on this as they sing the praises with their 'Greed is Good Mantra'!


Obama blasts hedge funds as Chrysler files for bankruptcy

By BEN FELLER, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 43 mins ago

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama announced Thursday that Chrysler would head into bankruptcy with the aid of up to another $8 billion in taxpayer money, a last-resort attempt to quickly restructure the struggling giant. He blasted hedge-fund creditors whom he said held out for a richer deal.

"No one should be confused about what a bankruptcy process means," Obama said. "This is not a sign of weakness but rather one more step on a clearly chartered path to Chrysler's revival."

As part of the deal, Chrysler is signing a partnership with the Italian company Fiat. The government will be an investor in the revamped Chrysler and will help choose its new directors, but the Obama administration does not plan to help manage the company.

Bankruptcy doesn't mean the nation's No. 3 automaker will shut down. A Chapter 11 bankruptcy filing would allow a judge to decide how much the company's creditors would get while the company continues to operate. The goal is for the whole process to happen quickly, Obama said, perhaps within a couple months.

The president said that Chrysler has been responsible for helping to build the American middle class, but over the years also had been weakened by "papering over tough problems and avoiding hard choices."

"For too long," Obama said at the White House, "Chrysler moved too slowly to adapt to the future, designing and building cars that were less popular, less reliable and less fuel efficient than foreign competitors."

The Obama administration had long hoped to stave off bankruptcy for Chrysler LLC, but it became clear that a holdout group of creditors wouldn't budge on proposals to reduce Chrysler's $6.9 billion in secured debt. Obama praised all the constituencies that have offered sacrifices and blasted those that did not.

He said a group of investment firms and hedge funds were holding out for the prospect of an unjustified taxpayer bailout.

"I don't stand with them," Obama said at the White House event.

He called Chrysler one of the "most storied automakers" in the annals of the country.
 

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What the fuck does Obama know about the car business....

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onthebottom said:
What the fuck does Obama know about the car business....

OTB
Obama knows ALL!!!!.....or at least much much more than Dubya!...:cool:
 

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onthebottom said:
What the fuck does Obama know about the car business....

OTB

About as much as being a leader............Hope he learns quick.
 

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About as much as being a leader............Hope he learns quick.
Oh, I'm thinking he's a good leader - where he leads may be an issue but so far he seems to be able to make decisions.

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onthebottom said:
Oh, I'm thinking he's a good leader - where he leads may be an issue but so far he seems to be able to make decisions.

OTB
I can't agree with you

So far i see a man who is in lock step with people who should be led by him.

As I said his first test of character showed his shield is made from the bodies of underlings.
 

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Obama's another leftie blasting free market economics and calling for more regulation, more government intervention.
 

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Obama's another leftie blasting free market economics and calling for more regulation, more government intervention.
Too bad he wasn't President while GeorgeII was blithely ignoring all that stuff and running up monster deficits.

When some drunk drives his car into your living room, tell us you don't want government regulation and intervention. Or when the next Bernie Madoff sits down across your kitchen table to talk "free market economics".
 

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oldjones said:
Too bad he wasn't President while GeorgeII was blithely ignoring all that stuff and running up monster deficits.

When some drunk drives his car into your living room, tell us you don't want government regulation and intervention. Or when the next Bernie Madoff sits down across your kitchen table to talk "free market economics".
So you are comparing Obama to a drunk driving in my house?
 

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The gall of some lenders. Imagine, they actually want their full principal to be repaid.:eek: If you lent me $100, do you seriously expect me to repay you the full $100?
 

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Rockslinger said:
The gall of some lenders. Imagine, they actually want their full principal to be repaid.:eek: If you lent me $100, do you seriously expect me to repay you the full $100?
They tried to play hardball and they got one tossed high and inside. Except from ideologues, I doubt they'll get much sympathy.

jwm
 

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Wake up people!

Why do you believe that Fiat is willing to enter into a partnership with a beached whale like Chrysler? Fiat built their success in SOUTH America, their technology is based upon SOUTH American needs and is totally incompatible with NORTH American demands. Fiat's finances are in disarray, the current recession as hit South America hard and the company posted a loss of $410 million dollars in the first quarter. They have enough problems already without taking on the bloated carcass of Chrysler.

And I haven't even included the furore that will erupt from the corn lobby if Fiat introduces their cane ethanol engines into the USA. I would like to assume that the new regime within the Agnelli family are not blithering idiots.
 

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I am wondering if anybody besides Obama is surprised the bond holders want to defend their money.

The fact that the president expected them to happily line up for their haircut without any complaints sasys something , and I am not really sure I like it.

The land of the tort and the home of the countersuit is alive and well. If the bond holders get a judge who actually applies the laws of the land this deal could be in trouble
 

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WoodPeckr said:
As I predicted the amoral paper shuffling weasels with their MBAs took down Chrysler. Doesn't matter if they work for AIG, Enron, Worldcom, Bernie Madoff, et al., these slimy bastards are all alike. Now that they took down Chrysler, GM will be their next target unless stopped!....:mad:
Can just imagine the 'spin' our 'corporatist lickspittles' will put on this as they sing the praises with their 'Greed is Good Mantra'!
As you predicted?

So you applied logic and determined that most rational people would not accept $0.05 on the dollar for billions in loans

Are you surprised "the slimy bastards" as you call them did not decide
"Hey, Chrysler could really use some help, if we accept 5%, then everyone will like us"
"No need to worry that our own balance sheets have taken a pounding & our clients will probably leave and/or sue us if we accept what everyone knows is a terrible deal on their behalf."
"Its what Obama & Wooden head want."
"Hey, maybe one of them will hire me because if I take this deal I will be looking soon"

Obama knew this would happen.
His criticism was all political for the masses.

For you own sanity WoodPeker, I suggest you calm down & just for once try putting yourself in the other guys shoes & imagine your reaction to an offer of $0.05 on the dollar to a loan you expected to collect one day.

And before you get an aneurysm, just remember the bond-holders have absolutely no influence on the day to day operations & the decline in this companies viability over the last 30 years.
 

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lolololool I love your thoughts at the beginning of articles Woodpeckr! :D

btw we should all be grateful to the MBA's, the jobs they create do not exist “in nature,” they do not grow on trees, someone has to create the jobs for our beloved UAW members.
 

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Does anyone believe that Chrysler is actually going to come back?

If it does will it survive with the UAW owning half of the voting stock?
 

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binderman said:
lolololool I love your thoughts at the beginning of articles Woodpeckr!

btw we should all be grateful to the MBA's, the jobs they create do not exist “in nature,” they do not grow on trees, someone has to create the jobs for our beloved UAW members.
Bubba CREATED JOBS!

Dubya and his MBAs made them vanish, exactly like Ross Perot said Dubya would!....:rolleyes:
 

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JohnLarue said:
For you own sanity WoodPeker, I suggest you calm down & just for once try putting yourself in the other guys shoes & imagine your reaction to an offer of $0.05 on the dollar to a loan you expected to collect one day.
5 cents on the dollar is the estimated equity offer to GM, not Chrysler.

The Chrysler offer was for a little more than 30 cents on the dollar in cash.
70% of Chrysler bondholders voted to accept.
Apparently 30% could kill the deal.
 

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The issue revolves around a well-known bankruptcy law called the absolute priority rule. It says secured creditors such as the holdouts are supposed to be paid out in full before unsecured creditors such as employees get anything.

Yet under the government proposal, the bondholders said they were unfairly being asked to take less than unsecured creditors such as Chrysler employees, whose union health care fund would end up owning more than half the company under the Obama plan.

“Our holdings in secured Chrysler debt are entitled to priority in long-established U.S. bankruptcy law and we are obligated to our fund shareholders to support agreements that respect these laws,” OppenheimerFunds, one of the holdouts, said in a statement.

The holdouts said they offered to accept 60 cents on the dollar, but the government wasn't interested.

“We have a fiduciary responsibility to all those teachers, pensioners, retirees and others who have entrusted their money to us,” the holdout bondholder group said in a letter explaining its actions.


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