Oh, oh... FBI reopened the investigation into Clinton.
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The Clintons ... are in the rear view mirror, along with their foundation that had ... what, $200 million when it was dissolved?
They should just forget about it, let it go.
To have these ongoing political vendettas going on continuously, is not good.
:apathy:
Yeah but if you have a current investigation on a collusion with Russia, money laundering, obstruction of justice - some people prefer the reruns of past stories to current reality.
Wise people advised the Clintons and their bootlickers to let go and accept the results of the election. They didn't listen and Trump is a nasty individual to piss off. So, probably sometime last fall, he unleashed the DOJ. I predicted that this was going to happen.
The Atlantic has a summary of the Wolff book, basically saying what's in the book is an 'open secret' like Weinstein's abuse.
The Trump Wolff portrays?
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/01/it-was-an-open-secret/549653/?utm_source=fbb
The real kicker?
The Clintons played a key role (and helped fund) the fake news story about Russian "collusion."
Having spent all of 2017 pushing the fake news story in order to undermine the results of the election, they shouldn't be surprised that the apparent racketeering at the Clinton Foundation is now being investigated.
Having spent all of 2017 pushing the fake news story in order to undermine the results of the election, they shouldn't be surprised that the apparent racketeering at the Clinton Foundation is now being investigated.
Trump’s Anti-Hillary Crusade Could Break the Justice Department
There will be severe, lasting damage if prosecutors reopen the Clinton investigation even if it’s only to appease the president.
To be effective, the Department of Justice must be independent from partisan politics.
And, just as important, it must be perceived as independent.
Today’s reporting in The Daily Beast that the Department of Justice is reopening its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server threatens to undermine that essential virtue.
Federal investigations are based on collection of evidence and legal analysis to determine whether a prosecution is in the best interests of justice. In the case of Hillary Clinton’s email server, FBI agents reviewed emails, interviewed witnesses, and reached the conclusion that no charges were appropriate.
In summer of 2016, then-FBI Director James Comey publicly announced that the FBI had concluded its investigation and was recommending against charging Clinton. Calling her conduct “extremely careless,” Comey nonetheless stated that no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against Clinton for her conduct. Looking to prior cases, Comey said, “We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.” He noted that all previous prosecutions involved “some combination of clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.”
Comey reopened the investigation in October 2016 when seemingly new Clinton emails were found on a laptop computer, only to close it a few days later when the FBI reached the same conclusion as they had in July. That was the end of the investigation.
Until now.
During the campaign, then-candidate Donald Trump frequently blasted DOJ’s treatment of Clinton. In the past month, President Trump has renewed his criticism of the Justice Department regarding its treatment of “Crooked” Hillary, putting “Justice” in quotation marks in one tweet, and later demanding the “Deep State Justice Dept” finally act.
And now, it appears that DOJ is reopening the investigation. Renewing an investigation into the president’s political opponent just because he demands it is wrong and dangerous. The Department of Justice is not the president’s personal legal team, designed to lock up his rivals. DOJ has a long tradition of independence from the White House. Bowing to the wishes of the president to investigate his political enemies would undermine public confidence in the objectivity of DOJ’s charging decisions in this case and all others.
One legitimate reason to reopen an investigation would be the discovery of new evidence. Just as the FBI reopened the investigation in October upon finding new email messages on a laptop computer, reopening it again could be appropriate if some other new evidence has been discovered or new witness has been identified. But today’s report does not indicate that any new evidence has been discovered.
In the absence of newly discovered evidence, it would undermine the non-partisan nature of the Justice Department to reopen an investigation just because of a change in the party that is in charge of the executive branch. Reopening this case could set a dangerous precedent for future administrations to reconsider all charging decisions with which they disagree.
It may be, as some have speculated, that the new investigation is designed merely to appease Trump, and that officials know full well that no charges will emerge. Even that sort of charade would be an abuse of the awesome powers of the Department of Justice and a waste of resources that could be better spent on new cases. One would hope that DOJ’s leaders would have the backbone to reject such pressures rather than to pretend to accede to them.
At the end of his remarks announcing his recommendation in the Clinton case, Comey said, “What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.”
Will we be able to say the same about the new investigation?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-anti-hillary-crusade-could-break-the-justice-department
There will be severe, lasting damage if prosecutors reopen the Clinton investigation even if it’s only to appease the president.
To be effective, the Department of Justice must be independent from partisan politics.
And, just as important, it must be perceived as independent.
Today’s reporting in The Daily Beast that the Department of Justice is reopening its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a personal email server threatens to undermine that essential virtue.
Federal investigations are based on collection of evidence and legal analysis to determine whether a prosecution is in the best interests of justice. In the case of Hillary Clinton’s email server, FBI agents reviewed emails, interviewed witnesses, and reached the conclusion that no charges were appropriate.
In summer of 2016, then-FBI Director James Comey publicly announced that the FBI had concluded its investigation and was recommending against charging Clinton. Calling her conduct “extremely careless,” Comey nonetheless stated that no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against Clinton for her conduct. Looking to prior cases, Comey said, “We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts.” He noted that all previous prosecutions involved “some combination of clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.”
Comey reopened the investigation in October 2016 when seemingly new Clinton emails were found on a laptop computer, only to close it a few days later when the FBI reached the same conclusion as they had in July. That was the end of the investigation.
Until now.
During the campaign, then-candidate Donald Trump frequently blasted DOJ’s treatment of Clinton. In the past month, President Trump has renewed his criticism of the Justice Department regarding its treatment of “Crooked” Hillary, putting “Justice” in quotation marks in one tweet, and later demanding the “Deep State Justice Dept” finally act.
And now, it appears that DOJ is reopening the investigation. Renewing an investigation into the president’s political opponent just because he demands it is wrong and dangerous. The Department of Justice is not the president’s personal legal team, designed to lock up his rivals. DOJ has a long tradition of independence from the White House. Bowing to the wishes of the president to investigate his political enemies would undermine public confidence in the objectivity of DOJ’s charging decisions in this case and all others.
One legitimate reason to reopen an investigation would be the discovery of new evidence. Just as the FBI reopened the investigation in October upon finding new email messages on a laptop computer, reopening it again could be appropriate if some other new evidence has been discovered or new witness has been identified. But today’s report does not indicate that any new evidence has been discovered.
In the absence of newly discovered evidence, it would undermine the non-partisan nature of the Justice Department to reopen an investigation just because of a change in the party that is in charge of the executive branch. Reopening this case could set a dangerous precedent for future administrations to reconsider all charging decisions with which they disagree.
It may be, as some have speculated, that the new investigation is designed merely to appease Trump, and that officials know full well that no charges will emerge. Even that sort of charade would be an abuse of the awesome powers of the Department of Justice and a waste of resources that could be better spent on new cases. One would hope that DOJ’s leaders would have the backbone to reject such pressures rather than to pretend to accede to them.
At the end of his remarks announcing his recommendation in the Clinton case, Comey said, “What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.”
Will we be able to say the same about the new investigation?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-anti-hillary-crusade-could-break-the-justice-department
In other words, there appears to be no fresh evidence to cause the renewed investigation. Trump appears to have done this - yet again! - to distract viewers from the bizarre train wreck of his own administration.
In any event, no one cares except his hard core supporters who obsess over HRC as being the poster girl for the "Swamp" and the antithesis of small town, traditional American values. The Clintons are distant past political news and most Dems are busy speculating who the new crop of presidential potentials will be.
In any event, no one cares except his hard core supporters who obsess over HRC as being the poster girl for the "Swamp" and the antithesis of small town, traditional American values. The Clintons are distant past political news and most Dems are busy speculating who the new crop of presidential potentials will be.
There is fresh evidence that Strzok was a partisan who influenced decisions dealing both with the DNC hack and the Weiner laptop.
And now we have word of unreported highly classified emails on the laptop.
I'd say that's enough for a second look. Strzok made them look bad. Better to clear the air.
The Clinton campaign tried to produce an October surprise or, as the FBI individuals were kind enough to describe in their emails, an "insurance". That needs to be investigated in depth and rigorously and the guilty parties need to be made example of. Can't have the tail wagging the dog.
You might have missed it but Hillary did concede the election and went for a walk in the woods.
The alt-right need to realize that Hillary isn't the president so their ridiculous crusade against her is pointless.
And wrote a book....and apparently funded the whole Russia narrative. And possibly used a compromised FBI field director.
Yup she is pure as the driven snow....
You could as easily make the argument that Trump won the election, and since no one has shown that he won because of Russian activity, best to just shelve this whole Russia investigation! Fact is, it's legitimate for Congress to secure elections from foreign interference, and it's legitimate for Congress to identify and resolve national security breaches committed by prior office holders in order to prevent future security breaches. In both cases however, it's best to wrap up these investigations in a timely fashion so that something can be done about either/both issues before the same mistakes are made all over again.
Oh no, a private citizen wrote a book? Throw the book at her.
So did the GOP. And get this, so did the justice department.
And she's a private citizen with no political future. Time to let the witch-hunt go.
He did. Don't know how you missed that.
And the investigation will be shelved when the FBI feels they have enough information to decide whether to lay further charges or dismiss the case.
How so?
Trump won the election. The FBI believes there was illegal contact with Russia during the campaign. Two separate stories and any connection between the two is not proven at this point..
