Prince Andrew: I don't recall

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Prince Andrew says he has no recollection of meeting Epstein accuser

Andrew expresses regret for staying at sex offender's home in New York City after financier's conviction

Thomson Reuters·Posted: Nov 16, 2019 8:58 AM ET |

Prince Andrew said he could not have had sex with a teenage girl at a socialite's London home because he returned to his house after a children's party on the night in question and has no recollection of ever meeting her.

The rare interview was an attempt to draw a line under a scandal after months of headlines about Andrew's ties to the U.S. financier Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in August while being held on federal sex-trafficking charges.

Speaking publicly for the first time about his relationship with Epstein, Andrew gave an at times rambling and contradictory account. The 59-year-old second son of Queen Elizabeth said Epstein's behaviour had been "unbecoming," but that he does not regret their friendship because of the opportunities it gave him to meet business people.

One of Epstein's accusers, Virginia Giuffre, has said she was forced to have sex with Andrew in London, New York and on a private Caribbean island between 1999 and 2002, when she says Epstein kept her as a "sex slave."

During the hour-long BBC interview broadcast on Saturday, Andrew gave a series of reasons why her account of meeting him sweating and dancing almost two decades ago at a London nightclub before having sex with him could not be true, including the fact he suffered from a medical condition that stopped him perspiring.

He also said that on the night he was alleged to have met her he was at home with his family after visiting a Pizza Express restaurant in Woking with his daughter Beatrice.

"I can absolutely, categorically tell you it never happened," Andrew said. "I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever."

He defended his relationship with Epstein, saying it opened up opportunities as he transitioned out of the Navy.

"The people that I met and the opportunities that I was given to learn either by him or because of him were actually very useful," he said.

In another excerpt, Andrew said he stayed at Epstein's home in New York after the financier's conviction because he was "too honourable." Epstein had pleaded guilty in 2008 to Florida state prostitution charges.

'Convenient place to stay'

"It was a convenient place to stay," Andrew said. "I mean, I've gone through this in my mind so many times. At the end of the day, with a benefit of all the hindsight that one can have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do.

"But at the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do and I admit fully that my judgment was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable, but that's just the way it is."

Giuffre, who was previously named Virginia Roberts, has said that she first had sex with Andrew when she was 17 and underage.

A picture showing the prince with his arm around Giuffre's waist from 2001 has appeared in British media. Unnamed supporters of Andrew told the Daily Telegraph newspaper in August that the picture had been faked.

Andrew has previously denied any inappropriate relations with Giuffre.

Gloria Allred, a lawyer acting for alleged victims of Epstein, said Andrew should answer questions under oath.

"There is so much truth that is yet to be revealed," she told Reuters. The prince "should agree to testify under oath and also he should voluntarily agree to speak to law enforcement."

Previous denials

When the allegations were first made, a Buckingham Palace spokesperson said it was "emphatically denied" Andrew had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Giuffre.

Andrew has previously said he stood by the palace statements. He recently apologized over his friendship with Epstein.

He has also previously acknowledged he made a mistake after a photograph of him with Epstein in New York was published in a British newspaper in December 2010. The former investment banker was then a registered sex offender.

Epstein's death and what it means for his accusers

Epstein, 66, died by hanging himself in his Manhattan jail cell on Aug. 10, the New York medical examiner said.

Andrew said he had seen no signs Epstein was procuring young girls for sex trafficking and that as patron of a U.K. charity campaign against child abuse he was alert to the dangers.

"I knew what the things were to look for, but I never saw them," he said.

He appeared to be open to giving a statement under oath, saying in the interview: "If push came to shove and the legal advice was to do so, then I would be duty bound to do so."

Andrew married Sarah Ferguson in 1986 and the couple divorced 10 years later, although they remain close friends.

Ferguson sent him a message of support shortly before the interview excerpts were broadcast on Friday.

"It is so rare to meet people that are able to speak from their hearts with honesty+pure real truth, that remain steadfast and strong to their beliefs," she said on Twitter.

"Andrew is a true+real gentleman and is stoically steadfast to not only his duty but also his kindness + goodness @TheDukeOfYork."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/prince-andrew-epstein-bbc-interview-1.5362255
 

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A prison worker on duty at the time of Jeffrey Epstein's death was offered a plea deal, sources say

By Mark Morales and Faith Karimi, CNN

Updated at 6:12 PM ET, Sat November 16, 2019

(CNN) — At least one federal prison worker on duty the night before Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his prison cell was offered a plea deal in connection with the multimillionaire's death, two sources familiar with the case said.

Plea deal negotiations between prosecutors and attorneys indicate forthcoming charges by the Department of Justice relating to Epstein's death.

Epstein, 66, was in a lone cell in the special housing unit of the federal Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York when he was found dead in August.

At the time, The New York Times reportedthat the two prison staff members who'd been guarding the unit where Epstein died by apparent suicide failed to check on him that night for about three hours.

Guards are supposed to check on detainees in the special housing unit every 30 minutes, a source with knowledge of Epstein's time at the prison previously told CNN.

Epstein was awaiting trial on federal charges accusing him of operating a sex trafficking ring from 2002 to 2005 at his Manhattan mansion and his Palm Beach estate. As part of the ring, he allegedly paid girls as young as 14 for sex. He'd pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Of the two officers who had the responsibility to monitor Epstein, one was not a detention guard but was temporarily reassigned to that post, according to a person briefed on the matter. The guard, a man not identified by officials, had previously been trained as a corrections officer but had moved to another position.

Rules at the Federal Bureau of Prisons allow people who work in other prison jobs, such as teachers and cooks, to be trained to fill in for posts usually manned by regular guards.

The second staff member on Epstein duty was a woman fully trained as a guard, according to the person briefed on the matter.

Both guards were working overtime shifts, but it's unclear whether that was mandatory.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/16/us/jeffrey-epstein-federal-worker-plea-deal/index.html
 

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Why a plea deal. Failure to check in on Epstein sounds like job-related negligence, not a criminal offence.

Fire them and fight off the union grievance, sure. But I don't see the charges.
 

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Why a plea deal. Failure to check in on Epstein sounds like job-related negligence, not a criminal offence.

Fire them and fight off the union grievance, sure. But I don't see the charges.
Conspiracy to commit murder comes to mind.....
 

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The only mistake the idiot would admit to was being to honorable.
 

mandrill

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Conspiracy to commit murder comes to mind.....
Nah... More details would have leaked out by now. That would have been the hottest news tip of the century!
 

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Nah... More details would have leaked out by now. That would have been the hottest news tip of the century!
You think so? Low opinion of MI6.
 

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You think so? Low opinion of MI6.
Well Danny, at least we know it's not the KGB. If it was, both guards and several of their immediate supervisors would have fallen off the balconies of very tall buildings by now in "regrettable accidents".
 

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Well Danny, at least we know it's not the KGB. If it was, both guards and several of their immediate supervisors would have fallen off the balconies of very tall buildings by now in "regrettable accidents".
Do you know their whereabouts?
 

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Prince Andrew's Epstein-Related BBC Interview Was "Catastrophic Mistake"

Sun, 11/17/2019 - 10:30

Last night, televisions showed the perfectly state-managed scene of Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, sitting down BBC Newsnight’s Emily Maitlis conducting an interview recorded at Buckingham Palace this past Thursday.

In it, as 21stCenturyWire.com reports, the Duke admits that he “let the side down” by maintaining a friendship with jet-setting billionaire and convicted serial sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. In a grand mea culpa, Andrew concedes that it was not “becoming of a member of the Royal Family.”

But far from repairing the PR damage done to Britain’s Royal Family, his move may have been a ‘catastrophic’ own-goal by his Palace handlers.




When asked why he stayed at the Epstein mansion after knowing he was already branded a convicted offender, the Prince answered simply, “It was a convenient place to stay.”

“It was a convenient place to stay. I mean I’ve gone through this in my mind so many times. At the end of the day, with a benefit of all the hindsight that one can have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do.

“But at the time I felt it was the honourable and right thing to do and I admit fully that my judgement was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is.”

This, and other gaffs has led top media lawyer, Mark Stephens, who previously represented Princess Diana’s lover James Hewitt, to issue harsh skepticism as to whether this was a wise move to push Andrew back into the spotlight. He told the Guardian:

“This strategy only works if you’ve got a complete and full answer to every possible question, and here there are too many loose ends.”

“If he’d kept his silence he’d have been able to remain outside of the case, as he’s a witness and is entitled to diplomatic immunity. He was a private individual and now he’s waived that privacy.”

Entertainment PR agent Mark Borkowski, added:

“Andrew has never enjoyed the company of journalists, and always kept the press firmly at arm’s length. Doing something so public is a high-risk strategy, and likely just to draw more attention to the issue without changing any minds.”

During the interview, the Duke of York was also asked about Virginia Giuffre, who was pictured with and claimed she had sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17-years-old.

"I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady, none whatsoever,” said the Duke.

“You don’t remember meeting her?” he was then asked.

“No,” responded Prince Andrew.


During his answer, the Duke blinked no less than 10 times in the space of just 10 seconds...



Wow, there was a lot of blinking in the response to that question. Probably nothing. ��




He added that Ms Giuffre’s description of him “profusely sweating” was false because, at the time, he had a medical condition that meant he could not sweat. He said:

“I didn’t sweat at the time because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenalin in the Falkland’s War when I was shot at, and I simply ... it was almost impossible for me to sweat.

“And it’s only because I have done a number of things in the recent past that I am starting to be able to do that again.”​



The duke went on to question the validity of a photograph with his arm around Ms Giuffre in London – saying it was not possible to prove if the image had, or had not, been faked. He said:

”I don’t believe it’s a picture of me in London because when I would out to... When I go out in London, I wear a suit and a tie.

“That’s what I would describe as... those are my travelling clothes if I’m going to go... If I’m going overseas.”

He added:

”Nobody can prove whether or not that photograph has been doctored but I don’t recollect that photograph ever being taken.”

On thing is certain: the British public were not clamouring for Andrew to do this media spot, and quite possibly would’ve forgotten about it as a hotly-contested UK General Election and Brexit begin to overtake all concerns heading into the Christmas season.

So why do the Palace do it?
 

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Ask Ghislaine.
 

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Prince Andrew is a s Innocent or Guilty as this guy as they both have one thing in common:



Yes, they both cannot recall. So in that sense, why should he not get off lightly when similar allegations are made against him?
 

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Prince Andrew: Royalty has failed Epstein's accusers, says lawyer

Prince Andrew on Epstein: 'There was no indication, absolutely no indication'
The Duke of York should apologise for his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, a lawyer for the convicted sex offender's accusers has said.

Spencer Kuvin, who represents several unnamed alleged victims, said "royalty has failed them".

He called Prince Andrew's interview with BBC Newsnight on Saturday "sad" and "depressing".

The prince has stood by his decision to take part, despite critics describing it as a "car crash".

Amid the backlash, Prince Andrew is now facing renewed calls to tell US authorities about his friendship with US financier Epstein - who, at the age of 66, took his own life while awaiting trial on sex-trafficking charges in the US.

The duke has been facing questions over his ties to Epstein for several months.

On Monday, Mr Kuvin told the Today programme: "It was depressing that he [Prince Andrew] really did not acknowledge the breadth of his friendship with this despicable man and apologise.

"The mere fact that he was friends with a convicted sex offender and chose to continue his relationship with him - it just shows a lack of acknowledgement of the breadth of what this man [Epstein] did to these girls."


Prince Andrew said this meeting with Epstein in 2010 was to end their relationship
In the interview with Newsnight, Prince Andrew - the Queen's third child - said he never suspected Epstein's criminal behaviour during visits to his three homes.

But Mr Kuvin said he did "not think there was any way" the prince could have avoided seeing what was going on, "with young girls being shuttled in and out of those homes".

Mr Kuvin said the focus of Epstein's accusers had now turned to potential co-conspirators.

It has led to questions about the role Epstein's former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell, may have played in procuring underage girls for the financier.

Ms Maxwell denies any wrongdoing.

Lawyer Lisa Bloom - who represents five other Epstein accusers - joined the calls for Prince Andrew to be interviewed by US authorities following his BBC interview.

She told the BBC's Victoria Derbyshire programme: "I think he's made things worse for himself in this interview and I think it's more likely the authorities are going to want to speak to him now - and they should want to."


The duke was pictured with his accuser in Ghislaine Maxwell's London home in 2001
Gloria Allred - another lawyer, also representing one of Epstein's accusers - told ITV's Good Morning Britain: "Now he's been in the court of public opinion, he should testify to the FBI."

She said she did not know how the prince "could have not known that there were underage girls" present during his visits to Epstein's homes in New York, Palm Beach and the Virgin Islands.

Six things we learned from Prince Andrew interview
Who was Jeffrey Epstein?
Meanwhile, Labour's shadow trade secretary, Barry Gardiner, said Prince Andrew should do whatever he can to help Epstein's victims.

He said: "By saying what he knows of the time that he spent with his former friend, can only be the right thing to do."

In the Newsnight interview, Prince Andrew said he will testify under oath "if push came to shove" and his lawyers advised him to.

It comes as the prince continues to face heavy criticism for the interview, which many royal commentators branded a PR disaster.

University of Huddersfield students will discuss a motion to put pressure on the duke to resign as chancellor later. In response, the university said Prince Andrew's "enthusiasm for innovation and entrepreneurship is a natural fit" with its work.

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Lawyer Lisa Bloom has also questioned why Prince Andrew did not apologise about his friendship with Epstein
In his BBC interview, Prince Andrew "categorically" denied having any sexual contact with Virginia Giuffre, known at the time as Virginia Roberts.

The first occasion, she said, took place when she was aged 17.

People close to Prince Andrew said he wanted to address the issues head-on and did so with "honesty and humility" in speaking to Newsnight.

In a lengthy interview, which UK viewers can watch in full on BBC iPlayer or on YouTube elsewhere in the world, the prince said that:

On the date Virginia Giuffre says he had sex with her - 10 March, 2001, he had taken his daughter to Pizza Express in Woking for a party before spending the night at home
He dismissed claims he was sweating profusely because he had a "peculiar medical condition" meaning he cannot sweat, caused by an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War
He had commissioned investigations into whether a photograph of him with Ms Giuffre had been faked, but they were inconclusive
Speaking out about his relationship with the financier had become almost "a mental health issue" for him
He would testify under oath about his relationship with Ms Giuffre if "push came to shove", and his lawyers advised him to
He was unaware of an arrest warrant against Epstein when he invited the financier to Princess Beatrice's 18th birthday party at Windsor Castle
He did not regret his friendship with Epstein because of "the opportunities I was given to learn" from him about trade and business

 

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"and I admit fully that my judgement was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is.”.

....yeah yeah to be sure all members of the royal family are brought up to be honourable at all times......like his brother Chuck the PofW who sought honour in his ambition to become a tampon and reside in the nether regions of his then gf.

Is there a better time to rid ourselves of all this "royal" sh!!!t?
 
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"and I admit fully that my judgement was probably coloured by my tendency to be too honourable but that’s just the way it is.”.....yeah yeah to be sure all members of the royal family are brought up to be honourable at all times......like his brother Chuck the PofW who sought honour in his ambition to become a tampon and reside in the nether regions of his then gf. Is there a better time to rid ourselves of all this "royal" sh!!!t?
Sure, his only mistake was that he was to honourable. LOL

Queen Elizabeth was overheard mumbling to herself: " I should have killed him instead of Diana".
 

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Royal Family Biographer Defends Prince Andrew: "Soliciting Sex From Minors Is Not Pedophilia"

Tue, 11/19/2019 - 05:00

Authored by John Vibes via TheMindUnleashed.com,

Biographer for the Royal Family, Lady Colin Campbell, recently appeared on ITV’s Good Morning Britain where she defended Prince Andrew against claims of pedophilia.



In her defense of the disgraced prince, Campbell pointed to the “prostitution” charge that Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of in 2008, and attempted to downplay the fact that the girls were underage by suggesting that he was simply hiring sex workers.



“You all seem to have forgotten that Jeffrey Epstein, the offense for which he was charged and for which he was imprisoned, was for soliciting prostitution from minors. That is not the same thing as pedophilia,” Campbell told a shocked panel Monday morning.

Host Piers Morgan immediately challenged her claims, saying:

“If you solicited a 14-year-old for prostitution, you’re a pedophile.

You’re procuring an underage girl for sex. That’s what he was convicted of. I’m sorry, I’m sorry, with respect, that is nonsense.”

Campbell then immediately attempted to backpedal, claiming that a distinction must be made between a minor and a child.

“Was he? 14? Well, I’m not justifying Jeffrey Epstein. Pedophilia, I suspect there’s a difference between a minor and a child,” she said.

“A 14-year-old is a child. Legally, she’s a child,” Morgan replied.

Campbell then admitted that the prince may have “made many mistakes,” but insisted that his only mistake was being too clueless to realize that one of his closest friends was a predator.

“You can’t criticize someone because they aren’t as bright as you would like them to be,” she said.



The controversy surrounding Prince Andrew has grown since his Newsnight interview with Emily Maitlis. In the interview, the prince gave a variety of bizarre excuses and defenses for the accusations against him, including a claim that he could not sweat due to a rare physical condition.

He also denied knowing about the trafficking victim, Virginia Giuffre—formerly known as Virginia Roberts—despite appearing in photos with her when she was under the age of 18. However, he has previously suggested that these photos are “doctored.” Photographic evidence has been uncovered showing that the prince does, in fact, sweat. He also claimed that even though he did not remember meeting the victim on the night that she said, he does vividly remember his alibi, saying he went to a Pizza Express in Woking before returning home that night.

“Going to Pizza Express in Woking is an unusual thing for me to do, a very unusual thing for me to do. I’ve never been… I’ve only been to Woking a couple of times and I remember it weirdly distinctly,” he said.

The interview was so disastrous for the Royal Family that one of Prince Andrew’s PR advisors quit in response to the broadcast. And to make matters even worse, a video clip from 1984 recently resurfaced showing Johnny Carson, then-host of The Tonight Show, making a joke about Prince Andrew being a pedophile.
 
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