Pronoun Poll

Are you required to have a pronoun on your business card?

  • 1) Yes

    Votes: 2 3.7%
  • 2) No

    Votes: 33 61.1%
  • 3) Optional

    Votes: 13 24.1%
  • 4) What's a pronoun?

    Votes: 6 11.1%

  • Total voters
    54
  • Poll closed .

Darts

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Are you required to have a pronoun on your business card?
 

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The thing is, business cards are going the way of the dodo.

Look the corp policy on how you format your email signature and set up your MS Teams profile.

That is where the pronoun wars are being wages today.

Not like business cards, which are sorta relics of a bygone age.

Most contacts I meet at sales events or industry meetings these days if in sales have a QR code on their phone.

You snap a photo, and bang, their company web site and their contact details on that site are now in your phone.
 

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I remember a woman said to me she had to put Ms. in her resume because she noticed at interviews they thought she was HIM because of the first name. This is back in 1990's.
 

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With some names that are cultural - you can’t tell gender so this could be helpful.

I don’t see making an issue of it. What’s the big deal?
Because referring to a single entity as "they" is incorrect use of the English language, and I have no intention of redefining the basic building blocks of the English language just to play into some minority's completely non scientific delusion of biology.
 

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I've seen name tags on cashiers at Shoppers Drug Mart with their preferred pronouns after their names. Not sure when I would need to use them....
 
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I've seen name tags on cashiers at Shoppers Drug Mart with their preferred pronouns after their names. Not sure when I would need to use them....
Saw the same thing at a Chapters book store during the scamdemic...and "they" refused to sell me a book cuz I had a highly scientifically effective cloth mask on my chin instead of up to the bottom of my eyes. Virtue signalling intolerant Left disguising fascism as kindness/caring.
 
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Because referring to a single entity as "they" is incorrect use of the English language, and I have no intention of redefining the basic building blocks of the English language just to play into some minority's completely non scientific delusion of biology.
Meh
 
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dirtyharry555

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We use "they" very regularly in normal English while referring to people. For example, when talking about someone unknown, it is commonplace to use "Looks like they are wanting to....." - this has nothing to do with pronouns or gender identity. Its just common parlance. So not sure why people take issue with it when non-binary folks want to be addressed as "they".
Huh???

No, when talking about someone unknown we still use he or she.

Fortunately I don't think the they/them idiocracy has caught on and never will. I've yet to come across someone using it or demanding it be used outside of Twitter/social media. It's so ridiculous.
 
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Darts

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And my experience is that business cards are not going out of style. I'm often asked for business cards, given business cards, etc. I've seen no decline of the use of them at all.
Agree. I still hand them out at business seminars and conferences. Great for networking. However, I usually make an excuse like I've out of cards when the person asking is a CRA employee (LOL!) but I will ask for their card.
 
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dirtyharry555

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English evolves, you know. If you were sent back in time to England of just maybe 400 years you wouldn't have a clue what was being talked about. Accents were different, words were spelled differently, some words meant different things than they mean today, some words used then aren't used today. Even just within a couple of generations in our own era "gay" has evolved from primarily meaning "happy" to primarily meaning "homosexual."

"Awful" used to mean "filled with awe" rather than terrible. "Cute" meant "quick-witted" not kinda pretty. "Fantastic" meant "unbelievable" not wonderful.

Pronouns can evolve too. It's the way of the language.
I think you're confusing the evolution of descriptive language, with prescriptive realities such as biological sex.

The meaning of words change, but the words to denote male and female remain, because biological sex is a constant (unchanging).
 
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dirtyharry555

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I did. For example, I was looking at FB on some random thread that popped up on my feed and one person commented in reference to a picture that the person in the picture looked afraid of something in the following manner - "Looks like they are afraid of......". The person in the picture was a guy. I don't think the commenter was being politically correct or playing pronoun politics. I have heard that many times before.
Okay, let me be clear. In MOST contexts they/them makes no sense.

If a photo shows a person whose gender cannot be readily discerned, people may say "the person" or "they" (a short-hand form of typing "that person in the photo"). Beyond such specific contexts, nobody uses they to refer to an individual.

In the context of one man or one woman standing in front of you, referring to either as they/them is dumb.
 
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No matter what word(s) we use, one specie still has a cock and testicles and the other specie has a vagina. Yes, I know there is the rare exception. For example. I have two cocks and 3 testicles, ok I kid.

BTW: Facebook is not a good source for proper English.
 
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dirtyharry555

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Its not dumb. If you can use "they" in certain contexts in reference to an individual, why not in others, especially when the person requests it?
Because language is intended to clarify and make communication easier, not to needlessly cause confusion and make communication more difficult.

Referencing something in a photo showing an unknown is one thing. Referring to a man standing in front of me as 'they' is quite another. It's utterly ridiculous.

Something that is appropriate in one context doesn't make it so in others.

And calling someone any one of a gazillion different pronouns just because a selfish or mentally ill prick requests it is stupid. How can you not see how dumb it would be to try to communicate with just 5 people, all of whom want to have a different invented pronoun to be used when talking to them? You might as well toss the idea of communication out the window.
 
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