Question for the guys

[Sardonicus]

Considering doing an article on tipping and how it relates to services rendered.

Do you find that tipping an escort makes for better service or not? Mind you, one would have to be a repeat client to know this. So for those who tend to repeat with any particular sp, do you find a discernable difference?

Conversely speaking, for those who repeat but rarely tip: do you find that the service tends to go down-hill when compared to the first time?

Another question: How many of you tip at the onset of a booking as opposed to the conclusion? Is there a difference as a result?

Last, for those who never tip at all (regardless of reason), do you notice a discernable difference between your experiences and those of others with respects to the reviews that are posted?

SP's are more than welcome to post opinions and experiences as well.

 

[sweet guy]

You could pretty tell how "genuine" and "consisitent" her service will be when you randomly tip her.

One of my buddies who is an Asian told me one Asian SP he visited refused to accept any tips, while the white SP he frequently visits is elated and xoxoxoxo him like a pink bunny.

This can't be verified since I never and am not interested in visiting any Asian SPs.

Never tip her at the onset. It just show how desperate you are. The chance will be she gives you down-hill service for sure.

I tip only after I become a regular. I rarely tip the first time since I am such an "anal" that I need a couple of visits before I tip.

Just curious, is there any standard % for tipping?

Personally, I won't pay too much but I am very thoughtful and tip something that make the SP feel special and treasure. It's all about a token gesture and appreciation to her "professionalism" so to speak.

I will stop tipping if I she gives me a hard time in next visit when I didn't tip as usual last time.

 

[MindJohn]

about tipping in the escort business

Tipping, in the traditional sense, is the art of subsidizing the income of the worker-bee whose income remains a constant, and who thus has little other incentive to perform his or her tasks more efficiently.

In the arena of escorts and SP's you could divide them into categories of sole proprietorships, where the woman works independently, and loosely run companies, where the SP is a worker bee who brings her take to the company and then gets a pre-arranged split.

The factors which make the tipping act quite sensible in the food service industry aren't present in similar ways in the escort trade when the provider in question is an indy.

For that reason I think that independent escorts should set their rates according to what they wish to take home and not bank on the potential tip to make the difference between a disappointing night and a night where she achieved financial goals.

There are good arguments on both sides of the equation but contrast the reasons we tip wait staff with those for which we might tip independent SP's and then ask why we really tip those indy SP's.

If we all subscribe to the hinted-at standard that beauty is worth more money in the SP world (which we don't have to, believe me) then might we just as well pay more for the extremely attractive SP's according to a set standard and leave the subjective act of "tipping" out of it?

Now, in that last paragraph, substitute (what you're all going to call) "level of service" for beauty, and see how you feel. That is to say that if she goes the extra mile for your pleasure each and every time, then she has every right to gain more income for her so-called performance. Adjust the rates accordingly and eliminate the subjective interpretation.

Occasionally some restaurants flirt with the idea of doing away with tipping and raising all of the prices, and wages, accordingly, but the element that is incentive for good service goes out the window in large part because the entity making the bulk of the money is not the one directly providing the service. This simply isn't the case with independent escorts.

It's a good topic for debate, but I for one would much rather pay a set higher premium for good service in this field, than have to contemplate what sort of a tip is right. (at least the restaurant industry will print an occasional pocket sized "tipping chart", but I've yet to see same for SP's)

Most of the tipping done with independent SP's has as a basis not so much her level of actual service, but is instead somewhat equivalent to running up to attractive women on the street and giving them money, or buying them drinks at a bar. If we're trying to be really fair in all of this, why not subsidize the price of drinks evenly for every woman at the bar?

 

[Talerion]

Considering doing an article on tipping and how it relates to services rendered.

Interesting question.

As MindJohn points out there are a number of factors at work when it comes to tipping in general let alone the hobby. In theory we tip in situations where the person is working in a task that normally is underpaid and it is expected that tips will make up for that. I am not sure we could consider your average SP as under paid as a rule.

No doubt "under-whelmed" at times, but I doubt under paid.

In a Parisian cafe the tip is automatially added to the bill. I never understand why they just don't charge 15% more rather than have it as a separate line item because to me it is sort of insulting. The tip is theoretically part of the incentive to get good service in a Parisian cafe and yet the waiter knows he can be ruder than is required by law to a tourist and still bank on his 15% and then hope to scowl for a bit extra.

Given that the SP is being well paid, especially in cases where they set their own rates, I am not sure that expecting a tip diminishes the process from the start. Sort of like saying, "my fee is $x but if you actually want to have it done properly my fee is $x plus a percentage." Why not simply make the charge fee plus percentage then?

That said I do tip at times. Sometimes to top up the number. Possibly if the SP provided an object that was worn that might need replacing, etc. I am flush with $20's and the bill ends on a $10 then probably that or to take it to a more common number, $180 becomes $200 etc.

Other than that though we seem to be turning into a society where without basis anyone feels the right to put a jar out in front and expect a tip.

T.