Region 4 -> Region 1 DVD

Homo Erectus

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I would like to convert a Australian (region 4 DVD) to North American (Region 1). Can anyone please recommend some software. Thanks.
 

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You are not converting regions. You are converting video formats, don't confuse the two.

Region control on dvds is to limit what gets out in the market place. For example a Region 4 dvd (Australia) won't play in a Region 2 dvd player (Europe) even though they are the same video format, PAL. You would have to use dvd decrypter and change the region format for it to play on the region 2 dvd player.

Why are there different DVD Disc regions?

Motion picture studios in the USA wanted to control the release of movies around the world using DVD region codes.. Movies are released on DVD at different times around the world, typically America and Canada first, Australia and Japan 6 months later, and Europe 12 months after US release. In some instances, DVD movies are available for purchase in America and Canada before they are released in European cinemas. Due to the high quality of DVD and the movie release system used by Hollywood, 6 regions were establish to prevent people from watching Region 1 movies before they were released on Regions 2-6.

DVD Region Locking is a system used to control which DVD movies play on which DVD Players. The regions are broken down as follow:
Region 1 - The U.S., U.S. territories and Canada
Region 2 - Europe, Japan, the Middle East, Egypt, South Africa, Greenland
Region 3 - Taiwan, Korea, the Philippines, Indonesia, Hong Kong
Region 4 - Mexico, South America, Central America, Australia, New Zealand, Pacific Islands, Caribbean
Region 5 - Russia (okay, former Russia), Eastern Europe, India, most of Africa, North Korea, Mongolia
Region 6 - China
What does this mean to the end consumer?

This means that movies from Region 1 (USA & Canada) WILL NOT play on a DVD player regions 2-6. Effectively Region 1 discs play only on Region 1 DVD players, Region 2 discs play only on Region 2 DVD players and so on.


You want to convert PAL to NTSC. Pain in the ass but it can be done.

It's easier for you to get a dvd player that does the conversion for you.
 
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Or find one of the places in the paper that advertise conversions.
 

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Converting PAL <-> NTSC is technically possible but terribly computer intensive to actually do. NTSC is based on 29.97 frames per second with each frame being defined at 640 x 480 pixels. PAL on the other hand goes 23.976 frames per second at a resolution of 720 x 576. (NTSC is theoretically a little "crisper" image-wise but PAL is more "film-like" with its (almost) 24 fps and semi-widescreen format.)

So to convert 1 second of PAL to NTSC, you need to manipulate 720 x 576 @ 16.7 million colours per pixel 29.97 times. That's a lot of computing and even if you have an 8-core computer, it takes a long time.

It's far easier and long term, much better for you to simply buy a region free, world DVD player. Such players can be found for as little as $50. Personally I bought a nicer LG unit at the Future Shop for about $150. Now I can buy DVDs anywhere in the world and not have to worry about compatibility.

Go to this website and do a search on Multisystem PAL/NTSC players and you'll enventually find what you want.
 

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It is not computer intensive as it is obvious you haven't done the conversion yourself. You don't need a 8 core computer.

I have done it numerous times. I have done conversion with and without menus. To preserve the menus it is a pain in the ass as you have to use mulitple programs.

A simple movie only you can use an avisynth script with CCE to convert the movie from PAL to NTSC or vice versa. You also have to convert the audio depending if the movie is interlaced or progressive. Not hard at all.

It is no more computer intensive than running a 6 pass encode using CCE to compress a dvd9 to dvd5.
 

mmouse

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Just go and buy one of those cheap and chearful dvd players.

My Magnasonic, from Canadian Tire for $20, can play back PAL discs of any region (it converts to NTSC - my TV is not multiformat). As well as playing back pretty much any file I can burn to a CD.
 

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xarir said:
Converting PAL <-> NTSC is technically possible but terribly computer intensive to actually do. NTSC is based on 29.97 frames per second with each frame being defined at 640 x 480 pixels. PAL on the other hand goes 23.976 frames per second at a resolution of 720 x 576. (NTSC is theoretically a little "crisper" image-wise but PAL is more "film-like" with its (almost) 24 fps and semi-widescreen format.)
I'm sorry but you deserve a geek slap for your total misinformation. NTSC is 720x480 @ 29.97fps, and PAL is 720x576 @ 25fps. Both are 4:3 aspect ratio so neither is more widescreen than the other. DVD format does support 24 and 23.976 fps as well as 16:9 aspect ratio, but these originate from MPEG2 specifications, not NTSC or PAL standards.
 

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Holy crap... he wants to rip the macrovision region encoding.... if u have a mac use mac the ripper and rip out all regions. Xbox360 will play both PALor NTSC and all regions with out an issue. The Diamondvision DDV players from Walmart will play both PAL and NTSC....

There has been endless debate on the relative merits of the quality of PAL images versus the quality of NTSC images. In this article, I want to present you with the arguments for and against both PAL and NTSC on DVD so that you can make an informed decision when purchasing your DVDs in regards to the best version to buy. As you will see in this article, it is not necessarily the case that PAL is always better or that NTSC is always better. However, I aim to point out the reasons why you should prefer one format over the other, and in which circumstances you should prefer one format over the other.
As an aside, if you are not familiar with the concept of 16x9 enhancement, I strongly recommend that you read my article on this topic, as your understanding of the remainder of this article will be significantly enhanced if you understand 16x9 enhancement.

As a further aside, if you have a Region 1 DVD player you in all likelihood cannot play PAL DVDs both for reasons of Region locking and because the great majority of Region 1 DVD players have had their PAL playback ability disabled, not to mention the fact that most NTSC display devices cannot display PAL images.

They're Not Really PAL or NTSC

The first thing I need to clarify about DVD is that PAL and NTSC are words and formats that are applied to DVD for convenience, and because of historical convention. There is nothing fundamental about a DVD which makes it either PAL or NTSC, but for simplicity and brevity, I will continue to use these terms throughout this article.
At their heart, DVDs are merely carriers of data files with compressed audio-visual information contained therein. This information can be placed on DVD in one of two resolutions; 720 x 576 pixels (PAL DVDs), or 720 x 480 pixels (NTSC DVDs), and with various frame rates (24, 25, and 30 frames per second are common). The DVD player itself takes this data file and formats it appropriately for display in either PAL or NTSC.

The Issue Of Resolution

In principle, PAL DVDs have a compelling advantage over NTSC DVDs. PAL DVDs have 576 pixels of vertical resolution versus 480 pixels of vertical resolution. That's a 20% increase in resolution for a PAL DVD as compared to an NTSC DVD. Increased resolution translates into a better looking image. However, this is an overly simplistic way of looking at the whole PAL vs NTSC issue as there are other factors that need to be taken into account.
http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/PALvsNTSC/PALvsNTSC.asp

I rip and convert DVDs on an 1999 G4 400 Sawtooth and it takes about 50 minutes per DVD to rip the encoding and make it region free. Takes 13 minutes on my Intel Duo core laptop.....
 

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canucklehead said:
Holy crap... he wants to rip the macrovision region encoding....
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As a further aside, if you have a Region 1 DVD player you in all likelihood cannot play PAL DVDs both for reasons of Region locking and because the great majority of Region 1 DVD players have had their PAL playback ability disabled, not to mention the fact that most NTSC display devices cannot display PAL images.

They're Not Really PAL or NTSC

The first thing I need to clarify about DVD is that PAL and NTSC are words and formats that are applied to DVD for convenience, and because of historical convention. There is nothing fundamental about a DVD which makes it either PAL or NTSC, but for simplicity and brevity, I will continue to use these terms throughout this article.

At their heart, DVDs are merely carriers of data files with compressed audio-visual information contained therein. This information can be placed on DVD in one of two resolutions; 720 x 576 pixels (PAL DVDs), or 720 x 480 pixels (NTSC DVDs), and with various frame rates (24, 25, and 30 frames per second are common). The DVD player itself takes this data file and formats it appropriately for display in either PAL or NTSC.


I rip and convert DVDs on an 1999 G4 400 Sawtooth and it takes about 50 minutes per DVD to rip the encoding and make it region free. Takes 13 minutes on my Intel Duo core laptop.....
You have no idea what you are talking about.
 

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canucklehead said:
The fact you said "he wants to rip the macrovision region encoding" proves beyond a doubt you don't have a clue what you are talking about. You are extremely confused.
 

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canucklehead said:
mmouse said:
The fact you said "he wants to rip the macrovision region encoding" proves beyond a doubt you don't have a clue what you are talking about. You are extremely confused.
So true, you can remove macrovision and leave in tact the region encoding. On Dvd the macrovsion signal is not on the dvd itself but has an instruction to the Dvd player to create such a signal during playback.

Macrovision was the primary protection scheme to prevent people from copying commercial videotapes or transferring dvd to videotapes.

Region encoding has nothing to do with macrovison.
 

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Homo Erectus said:
I would like to convert a Australian (region 4 DVD) to North American (Region 1). Can anyone please recommend some software. Thanks.


Firstly H, I assume you have 'backed up' your code 1 DVD's before right ?
 

mmouse

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canucklehead said:
i forgot the and...macrovision and region encoding.......
not much use otherwise.
You need to remove or change the region code to make a DVD play in a player that only plays certain regions (easy).
You only need to remove macrovision if you want to record to a VCR (more work).
A region 4 DVD is usually PAL and you usually need to convert to NTSC to make it play in a Canadian DVD player (even more work).
 

canucklehead

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what i generally do if someone with out a dvd player that is set for all regions and wants a movie i have is
A) rip the macrovision and set the region code to 0
B) copy via toast or CLI or popcorn to dvd either compressing it so it will fit or placing on a dual layer... either way i get it to fit tah dah

on the mac mactheripper and toast are all that are needed.

If it is PAL or NTSC diamondvision from walmart and it plays both formats.

ffmeg will convert PAL to NTSC or vice versa..... plus many other formats if u really want to.
 

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Try

I suggest WallyMart or
http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/

Some did a demo of this program for me and I was impressed.
But you have to do a lot of reading.
 
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