Researchers suspect oral sex to blame for rise in tonsil cancer

[LatinDancer]

The incidence of tonsil cancer has tripled in the city of Stockholm since the 1970s and doctors at the world-famous Karolinska Institute there think they know why.

Oral sex. Or perhaps French kissing. And changes in sexual behavior that took place 20 or 30 years ago, says Tina Dalianis, a professor of tumor virology at Karolinska.

Her research has directly linked the increase in tonsil cancers to the human papillomavirus (HPV). There are more than 100 different types of HPV, some of which cause cancer. One, for example, is responsible for 99.7% of all cervical cancers.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/betterlif...-rise-in-tonsil-cancer.html?poe=HFMostPopular

 

[Carrie Moon]

I doubt they can actually prove any kind of link.. but they like to push this HPV vaccine on young girls with any method they can find to scare them. Meanwhile several girls have died from the vaccine. Proven!

What are they going to do.. start telling people to stop having oral sex? yeah.. right. That kind of study wouldn't be funded unless by the drug companies to market the vaccine.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Oh boy, watch out!
The nutjob christian fundies in the USA (American version of the Taliban) are going to have fun with this study and milk it for all they can....

 

[Aardvark154]

I doubt they can actually prove any kind of link.. but they like to push this HPV vaccine on young girls with any method they can find to scare them. Meanwhile several girls have died from the vaccine.

Sorry Carrie, I'm on the other side of the fence.

Once you've had your foreign born wife accuse you of having given her precancerous cervical displasia because she didn't truly understand what the gynaecologist said about HPV, Cervical Cancer and incubation periods -
I'd vaccinate every girl and woman I could find if I had to hold them down for the physician myself!

 

[Carrie Moon]

Blame the gyno.. educate yourself and your wife. Don't think you'd be too happy to vaccinate your daughter and have her die from the vaccine.. but yes. We can agree to disagree.

 

[Aardvark154]

Blame the gyno.. educate yourself and your wife. Don't think you'd be too happy to vaccinate your daughter and have her die from the vaccine.. but yes. We can agree to disagree.

We are divorced, it was a significant nail in the coffin. The Gynaecologist has soon as she and her staff heard my name and the word "Lawyer" in the same sentence were all over themselves to say that they hadn't said what I'm pretty sure they did say - never having asked "how long have you been married?"

You know what they say about having yourself as a client and I heeded others advice.

I'm well educated on the subject - you and I disagree, and I sincerely doubt we will ever change each others mind.

VACCINATE!!!

 

[Carrie Moon]

VACCINATE!!!

No need to scream your opinion.. I'm sure your opinion is emotionally based (that's the argument you present) rather than educated. Mine is both emotionally based and one of education but I don't scream it at you.

 

[Carrie Moon]

a quick search pulled this up. Just so you know I'm not talking out of my ass...

http://www.newsdesk.org/archives/005752.html

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/sep/07092004.html

 

[Cassini]

VACCINATE!!!

Sooner or later, a drug company is going to come out with one of these marginal vaccines, advertise the hell out of it, and hurt large numbers of people. This vaccine doesn't actually prevent HPV, it just blocks transmission of a few of the most popular varieties. Long-term it may be completely ineffective at preventing either HPV or cancer. We don't know, because nobody has actually studied the vaccine for that long.

Meanwhile, massive amounts of corporate funding are being spent on arm-twisting politician's into paying for the vaccine, without long-term health studies. More than the one death per month that might be linked to this HPV vaccine. Are there additional long-term effects? What if the virus mutates in response to the vaccine? Is there solid data?

A sufficiently widely used medication will almost always trigger unexpected complications. Large-scale drug and vaccine use should only be considered with ample peer-reviewed long-term studies. This isn't even happening for common drugs like pain killers. Vaccines are more complex. Some vaccines clearly prevent large numbers of deaths. It is not as obvious that marginally effective vaccines clearly save lives.

With the current regulatory process, sooner or later, people will get hurt.

 

[Carrie Moon]

Sooner or later, a drug company is going to come out with one of these marginal vaccines, advertise the hell out of it, and hurt large numbers of people. This vaccine doesn't actually prevent HPV, it just blocks transmission of a few of the most popular varieties. Long-term it may be completely ineffective at preventing either HPV or cancer. We don't know, because nobody has actually studied the vaccine for that long.

Meanwhile, massive amounts of corporate funding are being spent on arm-twisting politician's into paying for the vaccine, without long-term health studies. More than the one death per month that might be linked to this HPV vaccine. Are there additional long-term effects? What if the virus mutates in response to the vaccine? Is there solid data?

A sufficiently widely used medication will almost always trigger unexpected complications. Large-scale drug and vaccine use should only be considered with ample peer-reviewed long-term studies. This isn't even happening for common drugs like pain killers. Vaccines are more complex. Some vaccines clearly prevent large numbers of deaths. It is not as obvious that marginally effective vaccines clearly save lives.

With the current regulatory process, sooner or later, people will get hurt.

Well put.. always follow the money when it comes to doctor/drug companies pushing drugs/vaccinations/surgery/aspertame and the list goes on.. as being good for you. and don't even get me started on the FDA approval process.. corrupt as you can get!

 

[Aardvark154]

I'm sure your opinion is emotionally based rather than educated. Mine is both emotionally based and one of education but I don't scream it at you.

If you feel I'm "screaming" I apologize.

The issue is indeed quite emotional for me. That, however, doesn't mean that I haven't extensively studied the issue of the various vaccines for HPV that are available, indeed it prompted it, and I feel that vaccination is indeed both wise and prudent considering all the risks.

You are entitled to disagree, and I’m entitled to feel you are quite incorrect in your disagreement.

 

[lonecoxxman]

Oh boy, watch out!
The nutjob christian fundies in the USA (American version of the Taliban) are going to have fun with this study and milk it for all they can....

Well stated!

 

[Aardvark154]

don't even get me started on the FDA approval process.. corrupt as you can get!

Is Health Canada's approval process also "corrupt as you can get"?


There are indeed problems with FDA Regulation - however, vacine approval is not one of those areas.

 

[Carrie Moon]

If you feel I'm "screaming" I apologize.

That is what you did when you enlarged the word.. You didn't know this???

You are entitled to disagree, and I’m entitled to feel you are quite incorrect in your disagreement.

What exactly am I incorrect in my opinion? That children (ages of 10 roughly) who were given this vaccine died from blood clots within mere hours of getting the vaccine? That money is the real reason new drugs such as this are pushed through the approval process and heavily marketed.. financial incentives given to not only doctors but medical students in the universities to promote said drugs? or that men such as yourselves think it's okay to give this risky vaccine to women (children).

Back up your disagreement with facts.

 

[Carrie Moon]

Is Health Canada's approval process also "corrupt as you can get"?

yes..

There are indeed problems with FDA Regulation - however, vacine approval is not one of those areas.

and baloney.. why would vaccination be exempt from a corrupt corporation?

 

[Aardvark154]

money is the real reason new drugs such as this are pushed through the approval process and heavily marketed.. financial incentives given to not only doctors but medical students in the universities to promote said drugs? or that men such as yourselves think it's okay to give this risky vaccine to women (children).

Obviously we have little room for agreement. They have been heard before, however, I'll pass along your comments in the morning.