Response to: Growing old and being alone: My grandmother's story & its lessons

stinkynuts

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After reading the post on the worries about growing old and lonely, I'd like to share my own personal story.

My grandmother (mother's side) lived a very difficult life. She had to wake up very early to do hard labour and on top of that she raised three children in utter poverty. She was an extremely selfless woman who never thought about herself, and only cared about others. She would also never use any gifts that were given to her, saying that it was a waste for her to use it. Thus, she collected all her gifts and would give them to others.

When she was old, her two other children would only visit her to eat her food, get things from her farm, and then leave. After her husband died, things became worse. My grandparents were extremely poor, but they had managed to save up a bit of money. After my grandfather died, he generously willed away most of his savings to his children and grandchildren.

Because she no longer had any money, fewer people came to see how she was doing, not even very close friends who lived minutes away. Everyone was all of a sudden very cold. My uncle became very abusive. Knowing that he would inherit the land when she died, he wanted her to die as soon as possible. My grandmother was living in an extremely old and dirty house, filled with roaches, and no heating. Since my uncle would obviously not spend the rest of his life in that house, he tore down her guest house, throwing out all of her possessions and memories without her permission (photo albums, personal belongings, etc...). Then he build a nice house there, right next to hers. Any normal human being would then happily welcome her to live in the new house. But he didn't. Saying that if she lived in the house, it would become dirty, he wouldn't let her step inside. There are countless other things that he has done which cannot be considered anything but abuse.

Today my grandmother is still alive at 101. She said her wish was to see her grandchildren get married. However, when my uncle's children were married, my uncle did not invite my grandmother to her own grandchildren's weddings.

She has some health problems, one of them being that she is practically deaf and cut off from the world. My mother is very loving and has tried to help her every way she can, buying her things and visiting her as often as she can, but it's very draining. Even calling her to talk on the phone is impossible, as my grandmother cannot make out anything and the conversation is one-way. So today my grandmother spends all day at home by herself in front of the tv, slowly wasting away. A government-appointed careworker visits her to help.

So my grandmother has done so much for everyone, but no one has done a thing to repay her. It's so easy to forget all the kindness and love she has given them. I am guilty of the same neglect. For all my whining about how I never received a New Year's call from anyone, I didn't even bother to send my own grandmother a gift, card, or phone call.

I learned that it doesn't pay to be selfless. No one is going to look out for you when you are old, poor, in poor health, dirty, and ugly. You need to look out for yourself, and do whatever's right for you. Fuck everyone else. Be selfish. Be selfish as you can be, as it's not a bad thing in the world that we live in today.
 

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stinkynuts said:
I learned that it doesn't pay to be selfless. No one is going to look out for you when you are old, poor, in poor health, dirty, and ugly. You need to look out for yourself, and do whatever's right for you. Fuck everyone else. Be selfish. Be selfish as you can be, as it's not a bad thing in the world that we live in today.
I respectfully disagree. I am selfless to people who I want to be selfless to. That being my immediate family and dear friends. Though I am a grown man, I know my parents and sister will always be there for me. Always. In the same respect, I will always be there for them if it is needed, that is the way MY family works and I don't think anything in this world could change that. My parents are not well to do people, and when they pass along I will probably have nothing but memories, and those memories I would not trade for all the tea in China.

My friends are the same way, and that is why they are my friends. If I were to have a party with my dearest, truest friends and I left a million dollars on the coffee table, not one bill would be gone at the end of the night, not even one, no matter what sort of trouble they were in.

This is the way I choose to live my life, and the only way I know how to do so. I was not always this way, I have seen the other side first hand, and I will never go back there. I guess you could say I am selfless for selfish reasons.
 

Aardvark154

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Stinkynuts, that is a sad story. Even only hearing one side of the story like this, dare I speculate that your maternal uncle is not a believer? I doubt that anyone who was would treat their own family in anything approaching the manner mentioned.

I honestly don't believe that the lesson here is to be as selfish as you can be.
 

Thunderballs

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It sounds like no one learned from her example. What are you doing to help her, Stinkynuts? Maybe you can be the person to start.
 

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This is one sad, heartbreaking story, to be sure. One can only hope that your grandmother is so selfless that she doesn't mind that no one has extended themselves out to her.

I get the feeling from my own parents that they don't expect anything from me except to do well in the world and be the best I can be. Nothing makes them happier then when I meet a great new girl, get a promotion at my job, take courses upgrade myself, etc.
 

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Just another thought. Why doesn't she just boot your uncle off her land if he is being abusive. She does own it, doesn't she? Maybe what would be good revenge is for her to will it to some organization like a church or the Salvation Army. They will boot your uncle off so they can sell it. It would be revenge from the grave.
 

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This is a sad story indeed. However she may be the only one who dies happy since she did what came naturally to her and that was giving. She knew what love is even though she rarely recieved it herself. She gave while everyone grabbed. So you got out of this to be selfish? Wow you would rather be like your selfish Uncle rather than your giving Grandmother? If you want to pay tribute to your grandmother perhaps you should ask if in her giving she got real joy and be a little giving yourself because of her life.
You see her life from the outside. Have you ever asked what she feels on the inside?
 

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stinkynuts said:
So my grandmother has done so much for everyone, but no one has done a thing to repay her. It's so easy to forget all the kindness and love she has given them. I am guilty of the same neglect. For all my whining about how I never received a New Year's call from anyone, I didn't even bother to send my own grandmother a gift, card, or phone call.

I learned that it doesn't pay to be selfless. No one is going to look out for you when you are old, poor, in poor health, dirty, and ugly. You need to look out for yourself, and do whatever's right for you. Fuck everyone else. Be selfish. Be selfish as you can be, as it's not a bad thing in the world that we live in today.
I pity you. You have learned nothing from the way your grandmother CHOSE to live her life. Karma can be a bitch and those that chose to treat your grandmother's selfless life will have much to answer for, yourself included. IMHO, of course.
 
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