sat. evening phone chat...

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Saturday evening, I had the chance to touch base with an old friend of mine- Ethan Moreau of the Edmonton Oilers. We talked about many things… perhaps the most interesting that I can share for discussion on the terb boards are the following (I tried to organize the thoughts as best as I could for y’all):
· The mongoloid trainer that has been a stalemate in Edmonton since back in the days of Wayne Gretzky and continues today is a brother of an ex-girlfriend of Wayne Gretzky. He apparently is 100% mentally useless to the team and they have another undercover trainer (stick-boy) to make sure everything gets done appropriately.
· Ethan admitted in last season’s playoffs that they never should have gotten past San Jose. In game 3, San Jose hit 3 posts in the 3rd period and 1 in OT. He said that woulda been the difference in the series. Anaheim had no gas left in the tank when it came time to play them.
· Rod Brind’Amour is one of the most feared guys to face in playoff hockey. His stare has become more penetrating than ole Messier’s. Many of the Oilers feared meeting him along the boards or in the corners. Ethan says if any team has a chance at defending their cup title in the last 5 seasons, it is Carolina.. even though their start was slow and much evident of a playoff hangover.
· Rod Brind’Amour’s Doctor is also a friend of Moreau’s- the Doc claims that Rod’s workout regiment has to be personally monitored by Doctors in presence because of the intensity. Rod could actually kill himself with the intensity in which he works out.
· There’s only about 2 or 3 guys on the Oilers roster that don’t currently take some sort of performance enhancing drug. Most of these drugs are prohibited in the Olympics, but, still legal for use in North America.
· To find evidence of performance enhancing drugs in the NHL (atleast among the Olympic elite), all one has to do is to follow how weak the performance of said given elite players are during the season leading up to the Olympics of those who have a chance at ‘making the Games’- usually after the Games, the performance increases… Mats Sundin, Zdeno Chara and Peter Forsberg are good examples. Where, on the other hand guys like Joe Thornton and Rick Nash have been known to carry clean nearly 100% of the time.
. Some non-steroid drugs include Thyroid pills and other metabolism adjusters... sleeping pills, anxiety pills... and ritalin!
· Zdeno Chara might be the best ‘scrapper’ in the league- though he often chooses not too fight.
· Joe Thornton, though is incredibly tough, has elected to not fight since having his cheekbone broken by Eric Lindros a few years ago. Smart move IMO. This is a big weakness of Jarome Iginla- though appreciated by the fans, it doesn’t win hockey games… Iginla is stubborn according to Moreau.
· Steroids aren’t the most common used drugs. Much contrary to what you’ll hear about in the media. The reason being, steroids can cause muscles to grow too fast leaving weak and injury prone fibres in the muscle tissue. Not a good mix for hockey players. Sometimes they are used to overcome surgery or injury, though.
· However, some frequent steroid users are: Jarome Iginla, Dion Phaneuf, Markus Naslund, Todd Marchant, Sean O’Donnell, Jason Chimera---- yeah, a large western conference list as that is what he knows best, I guess.
· Some (he named 3) referees are steroid users!!!
· Though many think Mike Peca is a steroid user, he hasn’t used in many years. He uses ‘other methods’ that can be explained in greater detail later.
· During the ‘flu’ outbreak within the Oilers dressing rooms of the 2nd round of playoffs last spring, an interesting story occurred… Against San Jose… games 1,2, and 3- players would go to the dressing rooms and insert IV bags into their veins at intermission and try to recoup their fluid and electrolyte loss due to fighting the flu while competing. They had the wives, coaching staff, Dr’s and trainers assist in STEPPING on the IV BAGS to PUMP the fluid into the veins at a faster rate!
· Chris Pronger’s wife is a huge ‘ice-queen’ and did not fit in at all in Edmonton… You just don’t go to games carrying Louis Vutton purses and fit in with the other player’s gf’s and wives…
· And yes, we all know what Chris Pronger did- his wife threatened to sue in divorce if they had to stay in Edmonton. The players really liked Chris but think he did a big dumb ass move by fucking that little university chick for months.
· Also- many players don’t get married during their career even though they have serious, long term gf’s… they are often just too busy to be distracted from their efforts.
· The players avoid partaking in the action known as the terb coined term ‘hobbying’ in their home town in favour for out of town games. Rink employed cheer girls are common delicacies enjoyed by mostly the younger players- rookies and sophomores… The older players prefer to indulge in fantasy providers…. And generally spend more $$$ on entertainment.
· Gambling addiction is quite rampant among the nhl players.
· Many of the elite NHLers agree that they don’t want their kids to make the NHL.
· Many invest money in the Turks and Caicos avoiding paying income taxes on their capital gains.
. Cocaine and alcohol is rampant around the NHL. players, execs, etc.. many use.... but in contradiction to this- most hockey players are HEALTH NUTS.
. Many players have adjusted to the 'new game' by losing bodyfat... some players play with as low as 4%!!! this, you can imagine is much harder to do for the older players without any drug aids.

Hope that helps provide some interesting insight into the game that wouldn’t come out in traditional media for the most part…

Enjoy.

PS- he shared much much more info but, how long do you want me to go for...

it was an interesting 45minutes, let me tell ya.
 

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stang said:
Was this all shared in confidence?
LOL thats what I was thinking, might not be so much of a friend after this. And 21pro, were you taking dictation while talking with him or are you just one hell of a writer. That was pretty good stuff ;)
 

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21pro said:
PS- how long do you want me to go for...
You can keep going, it is pretty much what most suspect, given the demanding schedule and the high expectation for perfomance. I guess Dick Pound was right, did his name come up?
 

21pro

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stang said:
Was this all shared in confidence?
no.. i or he didn't share anything that i couldn't talk about... they (NHL players) are briefed on all PR things they have to stay tight lipped about. some things he couldn't specify about... i tried to make note of the major things terb fans would find interest in...
 

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MojoRisin' said:
LOL thats what I was thinking, might not be so much of a friend after this. And 21pro, were you taking dictation while talking with him or are you just one hell of a writer. That was pretty good stuff ;)
i did type it in MSword first (good ole copy and paste)... it took a good 20minutes to recall everything we discussed... i know i left out some other good stuff...
 
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Ethan is my cousin. I will ask him if this is true. Somehow I think this guy is full of bologna and soon lawsuits will be flying.

Especially in the Iginla/Peca camp.
 

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I am also finding it hard to believe that such personal issues woud be discussed so openly.

It's an interesting read...but I doubt much more than that.

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I talked to Ethan today and this is all a bunch of crap.

I find it curious why he would fabricate something to this extent.

Ethan said he would never go on record with respect to saying something like this and he is investigating the matter further.

Trust me...if this were true, the NHLPA would be all over Ethan.

Now that it is in the public domain, I think it is fair to say that the NHLPA does not place any credibility into this guy's posts.

Knowing several NHL players are members of TERB, as well as several ex-players who are members (ie, Rob Ramage and Rob Pearson), it is far to say that if this post had any truth to it, guys like Ramage and Pearson who are stand up guys would tell the powers that be.

At least Ramage would if he was sober, sometimes he likes to get loaded and crash his car.
 
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I can't believe that you guys are not jumping all over 21pro for this stupid post.

I am perhaps one of the most knowledgeable sources of SP info in Toronto and have years of credibility established.

I challenge 21pro to respond to his very harsh accusations.

I am the Common Bond, and only speak the truth. That is all.
 

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The Common Bond said:
I can't believe that you guys are not jumping all over 21pro for this stupid post.

I am perhaps one of the most knowledgeable sources of SP info in Toronto and have years of credibility established.

I challenge 21pro to respond to his very harsh accusations.

I am the Common Bond, and only speak the truth. That is all.
No offense Dude....
But how can we believe that you have any credibility on TERB with only 16 posts?:confused:

If you have an alternate handle....why didn't you use it?
 

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Posted by The Common Bond
"I am perhaps one of the most knowledgeable sources of SP info in Toronto and have years of credibility established. "

huh?:confused:

Are you James?
 

21pro

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Sorry guys for replying so late... alot has happened since i last scanned the 'boards'... just got in from some late night pick up hockey...

yes. i have more stories to tell that i can possibly recall...

now, that no one believes me anyway... ;)
what else I can recall from the conversation...
-MacTavish is quite a tyrant of a coach, moreso than others in the league. he is very hard to get along with, extremely strict with curfews, phone calls on road trips, and the like... not that the players don't like him... some do, some don't... but they all will do ANYTHING for him... I guess that's what you want in a good team...
-Mikka Kipprusoff is not well liked by many in Alberta... he seems to be some sorda introvert that can rub people the wrong way... (not sure what is meant by that)
-Every NHL arena has a camera that spies on the visiting team bench... If you notice often times when an visiting team calls for time out during a game, the home team usually just waits around the bench as to look like they are 'catching their breath'... they are doing that, but more... they are waiting for staff to decipher the plays of what they can figure out from what the visiting coach is trying to relay to its players.... the upstairs staff quickly tries to make sense of what they see and send it down to the bench and the home team coach has to quickly have a defensive counter play to give to the players before the 30 secs. are up... alot of fast thinking if you ask me...more often than not, i'm guessing- it's a guess at best.

hey, Common Bond ... what in my post EXACTLY are you in disagreement with? and what exactly is soooo controversial? none of this stuff is said 'on the record'... and on a public forum can be taken anyway anyone wish's...IT COULD BE ALL 100% BULLSHIT, or bologna as you said yourself... and if so, WHY WOULD YOU CARE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE THREAD? I challenge you, what am I incorrect about? besides, most terbites know quite a bit of what I reported here already... if you can counter, and correct me go ahead... it makes for an even more interesting thread...

and even moreover, if he's your cousin, how come you don't have anything to offer?

you claim to have 'years of credibility' ... so what? you talked to your cousin on a road game day??? do you know how difficult that is to do? (from what i hear) especially when MacTavvy's your coach... well.. i guess then that you must be really close to ethan, right? good 4 u. for me, he's just an old friend... one of many for him, i'm sure.

this is a public forum- shit can be said, rumours can be started... i acknowledge this... in no way is it the most reliable source of information to go and gather details from a discussion board. i'm just sharing stuff with like-interested online pals... they all knowingly take it for what it's worth... as far as they are concerned, it can all be crap. i'm not here to establish credibility... that's not a concern of mine.
 
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21pro said:
Sorry guys for replying so late... alot has happened since i last scanned the 'boards'... just got in from some late night pick up hockey...

yes. i have more stories to tell that i can possibly recall...

now, that no one believes me anyway... ;)
what else I can recall from the conversation...
-MacTavish is quite a tyrant of a coach, moreso than others in the league. he is very hard to get along with, extremely strict with curfews, phone calls on road trips, and the like... not that the players don't like him... some do, some don't... but they all will do ANYTHING for him... I guess that's what you want in a good team...
-Mikka Kipprusoff is not well liked by many in Alberta... he seems to be some sorda introvert that can rub people the wrong way... (not sure what is meant by that)
-Every NHL arena has a camera that spies on the visiting team bench... If you notice often times when an visiting team calls for time out during a game, the home team usually just waits around the bench as to look like they are 'catching their breath'... they are doing that, but more... they are waiting for staff to decipher the plays of what they can figure out from what the visiting coach is trying to relay to its players.... the upstairs staff quickly tries to make sense of what they see and send it down to the bench and the home team coach has to quickly have a defensive counter play to give to the players before the 30 secs. are up... alot of fast thinking if you ask me...more often than not, i'm guessing- it's a guess at best.

hey, Common Bond ... what in my post EXACTLY are you in disagreement with? and what exactly is soooo controversial? none of this stuff is said 'on the record'... and on a public forum can be taken anyway anyone wish's...IT COULD BE ALL 100% BULLSHIT, or bologna as you said yourself... and if so, WHY WOULD YOU CARE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE THREAD? I challenge you, what am I incorrect about? besides, most terbites know quite a bit of what I reported here already... if you can counter, and correct me go ahead... it makes for an even more interesting thread...

and even moreover, if he's your cousin, how come you don't have anything to offer?

you claim to have 'years of credibility' ... so what? you talked to your cousin on a road game day??? do you know how difficult that is to do? (from what i hear) especially when MacTavvy's your coach... well.. i guess then that you must be really close to ethan, right? good 4 u. for me, he's just an old friend... one of many for him, i'm sure.

this is a public forum- shit can be said, rumours can be started... i acknowledge this... in no way is it the most reliable source of information to go and gather details from a discussion board. i'm just sharing stuff with like-interested online pals... they all knowingly take it for what it's worth... as far as they are concerned, it can all be crap. i'm not here to establish credibility... that's not a concern of mine.
As to talking to my cousin on a road game day. The answer is quite simple. It is called a cell phone.

As to what part of the post I am in disagreement with, well: All of it. He said he has never talked to you.

Does that clear it up?

Keep posting your nonsesense. I am not sure why you picked Ethan to be the "spokesman" for all of these lies however.

No doubt Ethan is going to elevate this to the next level.
 
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