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cunnilingpro

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Hello All,

Just had the worst experience with an SP located by 401 Ajax. This was her message after reaching out "
Hi baby My rates are $160hh $280hr
Located in Ajax
I offer gfe Daty dfk dato 69, no Greek no Bbfs
What's ur age and background baby 💕😘"
Decided for HH and went in. She collect 170 at the door as I had no change. She looked like in the pictures and she asked to me get naked and lie down on the bed. She removed a condom and started HJ and then said that anything else is extra. So 160 just for HJ and she never told me everything else is extra when checking. So just be aware, Ik I should have been more careful there.

 
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Daddy2021

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Hello All,

Just had the worst experience with an SP located by 401 Ajax. This was her message after reaching out "
Hi baby My rates are $160hh $280hr
Located in Ajax
I offer gfe Daty dfk dato 69, no Greek no Bbfs
What's ur age and background baby 💕😘"
Decided for HH and went in. She collect 170 at the door as I had no change. She looked like in the pictures and she asked to me get naked and lie down on the bed. She removed a condom and started HJ and then said that anything else is extra. So 160 just for HJ and she never told me everything else is extra when checking. So just be aware, Ik I should have been more careful there.

Well technically she says those services are offered not included. Carefully worded to scam. Not ok.
 

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Well technically she says those services are offered not included. Carefully worded to scam. Not ok.
Totally not ok. She doesn't even say HJ in her services. Total bullshit. Sick of these scammers giving Durham a bad name.
 

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another one!


 

RebelinBed

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Unfortunately, there's never really clear indicators unless you actually go to see them. We can think that "party friendly" and "no [ethnicity here] gents" or whatever in their ad are indicators of scammers or bad providers but that's not always the case. I gotta be real with you guys, all that is purely superstition.

Maybe you've had nothing but bad experiences with party friendly providers and fair enough. Maybe you're frustrated because of how limited your selection is because of your ethnicity and I totally understand that. But to paint them all with the same brush as scammers or bad providers is simply superstition and delusion.

I've had plenty of good and average experiences with girls who are party friendly & and so have many others of us even if we don't partake ourselves & there are plenty of well reviewed reputable ladies who don't see certain ethnicities of men for whatever their reasons may be. Myself and many of you have also had bad experiences with party friendly and reputable well reviewed providers too. So it's not like it matters that much anyways.

Many of us also have our preferences over who we see and who we don't? Many of you don't see party friendly providers. Many of you only see women of certain ethnicities and don't see others. Many SPs don't see clients who party or even smoke weed or drink too. Many of us only see some of certain body types, hair color, or services provided/kinks/fetishes. So, ultimately, what is the difference? Why should we be able to "discriminate" and choose who we want to see but then expect these women to be open and willing to see every single client who wants to see them regardless of what the women's preferences are. That's some backward-ass logic when you stop and think about it.

These ladies don't have to follow the same rules and regulations that brick and mortar stores and other legitimate business do, having to serve every customer that walks in. That's again, just the reality of it whether you like it or not. As someone who works in hospitality, dealing with customers/guests, I have absolutely no issues with declining service to a customer who is being rude and verbally abusing me or my staff. If I have to, I'll straight up eject your ass with security out of my venue/restaurant/bar/club. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Some of y'all may see what I'm saying as a garbage take or whatever and that's fine but that's the reality of it regardless of whatever logic you use to rationalize your beliefs and points of view.

But this is how girls like this get us. They're hot and they know it. They know you're not going to put up a fight because we usually want discretion and don't want to cause a scene or be attacked by a pimp/handler/body guard. Even if you don't care about causing a scene, LE & other people are likely going to take her word over yours. We're the ones doing something that is still illegal after all. There is nothing in the law that states the ladies providing the service have to actually provide what they say they do (even though there should be so we can have some protection too). Even if you do cough up whatever for the "extras", it's likely to be sub-par anyways so what's the point? Take the L, lick your wounds, and try someone else when you can.

I'm sorry to the OP that this happened to you. It sucks. It's happened to me too as well as most of us. Unfortunately, this industry is like gambling. Sometimes you win, sometimes you get burned. Better luck next time brother and thank you for informing the community.
 
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Unfortunately, there's never really clear indicators unless you actually go to see them. We can think that "party friendly" and "no [ethnicity here] gents" or whatever in their ad are indicators of scammers or bad providers but that's not always the case. I gotta be real with you guys, all that is purely superstition.

Maybe you've had nothing but bad experiences with party friendly providers and fair enough. Maybe you're frustrated because of how limited your selection is because of your ethnicity and I totally understand that. But to paint them all with the same brush as scammers or bad providers is simply superstition and delusion.

I've had plenty of good and average experiences with girls who are party friendly & and so have many others of us even if we don't partake ourselves & there are plenty of well reviewed reputable ladies who don't see certain ethnicities of men for whatever their reasons may be. Myself and many of you have also had bad experiences with party friendly and reputable well reviewed providers too. So it's not like it matters that much anyways.

Many of us also have our preferences over who we see and who we don't? Many of you don't see party friendly providers. Many of you only see women of certain ethnicities and don't see others. Many SPs don't see clients who party or even smoke weed or drink too. Many of us only see some of certain body types, hair color, or services provided/kinks/fetishes. So, ultimately, what is the difference? Why should we be able to "discriminate" and choose who we want to see but then expect these women to be open and willing to see every single client who wants to see them regardless of what the women's preferences are. That's some backward-ass logic when you stop and think about it.

These ladies don't have to follow the same rules and regulations that brick and mortar stores and other legitimate business do, having to serve every customer that walks in. That's again, just the reality of it whether you like it or not. As someone who works in hospitality, dealing with customers/guests, I have absolutely no issues with declining service to a customer who is being rude and verbally abusing me or my staff. If I have to, I'll straight up eject your ass with security out of my venue/restaurant/bar/club. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Some of y'all may see what I'm saying as a garbage take or whatever and that's fine but that's the reality of it regardless of whatever logic you use to rationalize your beliefs and points of view.

But this is how girls like this get us. They're hot and they know it. They know you're not going to put up a fight because we usually want discretion and don't want to cause a scene or be attacked by a pimp/handler/body guard. Even if you don't care about causing a scene, LE & other people are likely going to take her word over yours. We're the ones doing something that is still illegal after all. There is nothing in the law that states the ladies providing the service have to actually provide what they say they do (even though there should be so we can have some protection too). Even if you do cough up whatever for the "extras", it's likely to be sub-par anyways so what's the point? Take the L, lick your wounds, and try someone else when you can.

I'm sorry to the OP that this happened to you. It sucks. It's happened to me too as well as most of us. Unfortunately, this industry is like gambling. Sometimes you win, sometimes you get burned. Better luck next time brother and thank you for informing the community.
I hear what you're saying but I respectfully disagree. I believe there is enough common trends out there to help us to minimize the risk. Ofcourse it is not 100% but I myself have not been in this hobby for a long time but I have been able to avoid being scammed(thus far) by paying attention to the common trends. "Party friendly" and "No black men" from my research are typically consistent with what the OP experienced.
 

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I hear what you're saying but I respectfully disagree. I believe there is enough common trends out there to help us to minimize the risk. Ofcourse it is not 100% but I myself have not been in this hobby for a long time but I have been able to avoid being scammed(thus far) by paying attention to the common trends. "Party friendly" and "No black men" from my research are typically consistent with what the OP experienced.
I've been in this hobby nearly 10 years now. Not as long as others but long enough. I don't disagree with you that following those trends can minimize risk. It certainly can. No argument there, at least when it comes to "party friendly". With party girls specifically, I get that the main worries are erratic behaviour as well as following up on agreed services and the quality of those services. Personally, I have never experienced erratic behaviour with party girls but I have experienced changes in services and poor quality services. For me, as long as they can act right and deliver good quality, idrc if they party or not.

As for the ethnical part, I can't attest to that as it does not affect me. All I can attest to is that there are many well reviewed, reputable providers who do have ethnic preferences in the clients they see. Some will see black gents and not middle eastern/Indian. Some will see both of those but no Asian gents. Also, there are plenty of black female providers who also don't see black gents, so like that's clearly not a racial discrimination (or at least most likely). My point is mainly that these ladies can see who they want and what clients they prefer to see generally can't be used to indicate quality of service. Hell, I'm sure there are even incredibly high-end, upscale providers, higher than Amber, I'm talking in the 1k-10k/hour range (who from my understanding are usually legitimate pornstars that also escort on the side), who are party girls or have ethnic & age preferences who are incredibly well reviewed, reputable providers who see the most elite clients. It literally means nothing other than for whatever reason they don't want to see certain clients.

Like, if you do fall under the ethnicity or even the age of client who they would prefer not to see and you show up anyway by either lying or avoiding telling them, you're likely going to get turned away or they will reluctantly see you and you will have a bad time. However, with that said if you are polite and respectful when communicating there is a chance they may be willing to make an exception. When I first started this hobby in my early 20s, I fell under some providers age restriction. Be it "no gents under 30 or 25" or "25+ or 30+ gents only" or whatever. But because of how polite and respectful I was, they usually made exceptions for me and I had a good time. I have also seen ads for ladies who only want to see older gents, typically 40+, 50+, 60+. I've reached out and have been turned away every time. Oh well 🤷🏼‍♂️ I was even turned away by Katrina (sexy blonde lapdance and bbj gal most of you are familiar with) when she first started a few years ago because her age restriction was 28+ only or 30+ only. She does see all gents though, I think?

I've even been turned away by Candi, after the last time I saw her. After my last session with her, she said she would not welcome me in the future because I couldn't cum from a BJ in 10 minutes or less. (I can do a normal bng session, 15-20 as per my past bng reviews with Jenesis, Bambeigh, etc.). I asked about her quicky fs when she offers it because I know I can cum from an fs quicky in 15 min or less especially with someone as attractive as her and she still said no. I've never been turned away for this reason, that was a first. But hey, she prefers to see gents who can finish in a shorter than normal time. That's her preference, nothing against her at all. She's a lovely woman. Sucks that I can never experience fs with her because I would love to but again oh well, it is what it is.

I do recognize that for many it can be frustrating to see all the ads with party friendly in it or with the same ethnic or age restrictions. I do 100% understand and empathize, despite generally being unaffected by them. The only thing as clients you can really do is just find and see the providers who welcome all gents or on the case of party friendly, those who don't party aka "D&D free". That's really all there is to it.

However, I hope I've indicated that I do see the problem from both sides. I get it. In a perfect world, in this hobby, if everyone could see everyone that would obviously be great and ideal. I'd love to see that. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the bad apples spoil the whole orchard. This is indicated by both sides. Specifically, those of you who choose not to see party girls from your bad experiences with them. You write all of them off despite not all of them being bad. The same is with them and the clients they don't want to see. They've likely had bad experiences with those clients in the past and don't wish to see them anymore. It is what it is.
 
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I've been in this hobby nearly 10 years now. Not as long as others but long enough. I don't disagree with you that following those trends can minimize risk. It certainly can. No argument there, at least when it comes to "party friendly". With party girls specifically, I get that the main worries are erratic behaviour as well as following up on agreed services and the quality of those services. Personally, I have never experienced erratic behaviour with party girls but I have experienced changes in services and poor quality services. For me, as long as they can act right and deliver good quality, idrc if they party or not.

As for the ethnical part, I can't attest to that as it does not affect me. All I can attest to is that there are many well reviewed, reputable providers who do have ethnic preferences in the clients they see. Some will see black gents and not middle eastern/Indian. Some will see both of those but no Asian gents. Also, there are plenty of black female providers who also don't see black gents, so like that's clearly not a racial discrimination (or at least most likely). My point is mainly that these ladies can see who they want and what clients they prefer to see generally can't be used to indicate quality of service. Hell, I'm sure there are even incredibly high-end, upscale providers, higher than Amber, I'm talking in the 1k-10k/hour range (who from my understanding are usually legitimate pornstars that also escort on the side), who are party girls or have ethnic & age preferences who are incredibly well reviewed, reputable providers who see the most elite clients. It literally means nothing other than for whatever reason they don't want to see certain clients.

Like, if you do fall under the ethnicity or even the age of client who they would prefer not to see and you show up anyway by either lying or avoiding telling them, you're likely going to get turned away or they will reluctantly see you and you will have a bad time. However, with that said if you are polite and respectful when communicating there is a chance they may be willing to make an exception. When I first started this hobby in my early 20s, I fell under some providers age restriction. Be it "no gents under 30 or 25" or "25+ or 30+ gents only" or whatever. But because of how polite and respectful I was, they usually made exceptions for me and I had a good time. I have also seen ads for ladies who only want to see older gents, typically 40+, 50+, 60+. I've reached out and have been turned away every time. Oh well 🤷🏼‍♂️ I was even turned away by Katrina (sexy blonde lapdance and bbj gal most of you are familiar with) when she first started a few years ago because her age restriction was 28+ only or 30+ only. She does see all gents though, I think?

I've even been turned away by Candi, after the last time I saw her. After my last session with her, she said she would not welcome me in the future because I couldn't cum from a BJ in 10 minutes or less. (I can do a normal bng session, 15-20 as per my past bng reviews with Jenesis, Bambeigh, etc.). I asked about her quicky fs when she offers it because I know I can cum from an fs quicky in 15 min or less especially with someone as attractive as her and she still said no. I've never been turned away for this reason, that was a first. But hey, she prefers to see gents who can finish in a shorter than normal time. That's her preference, nothing against her at all. She's a lovely woman. Sucks that I can never experience fs with her because I would love to but again oh well, it is what it is.

I do recognize that for many it can be frustrating to see all the ads with party friendly in it or with the same ethnic or age restrictions. I do 100% understand and empathize, despite generally being unaffected by them. The only thing as clients you can really do is just find and see the providers who welcome all gents or on the case of party friendly, those who don't party aka "D&D free". That's really all there is to it.

However, I hope I've indicated that I do see the problem from both sides. I get it. In a perfect world, in this hobby, if everyone could see everyone that would obviously be great and ideal. I'd love to see that. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the bad apples spoil the whole orchard. This is indicated by both sides. Specifically, those of you who choose not to see party girls from your bad experiences with them. You write all of them off despite not all of them being bad. The same is with them and the clients they don't want to see. They've likely had bad experiences with those clients in the past and don't wish to see them anymore. It is what it is.
I won’t hijack the post but if I said no to ever seeing u again after only one visit it was definitely more of a reason than just the bj not finishing in a certan time. I always give someone another try if the first time is draining because we all have off days. In fact, that’s what I tell people to “let them down easy” due to things like hygiene issues, chemistry, etc. I’m big on energy. Any weird vibe I will not see someone again. I usually always give someone another try if infact the only reason was timing. It was prob a situation where we didnt vibe etc and I didnt wanna be rude.
 
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I've been in this hobby nearly 10 years now. Not as long as others but long enough. I don't disagree with you that following those trends can minimize risk. It certainly can. No argument there, at least when it comes to "party friendly". With party girls specifically, I get that the main worries are erratic behaviour as well as following up on agreed services and the quality of those services. Personally, I have never experienced erratic behaviour with party girls but I have experienced changes in services and poor quality services. For me, as long as they can act right and deliver good quality, idrc if they party or not.

As for the ethnical part, I can't attest to that as it does not affect me. All I can attest to is that there are many well reviewed, reputable providers who do have ethnic preferences in the clients they see. Some will see black gents and not middle eastern/Indian. Some will see both of those but no Asian gents. Also, there are plenty of black female providers who also don't see black gents, so like that's clearly not a racial discrimination (or at least most likely). My point is mainly that these ladies can see who they want and what clients they prefer to see generally can't be used to indicate quality of service. Hell, I'm sure there are even incredibly high-end, upscale providers, higher than Amber, I'm talking in the 1k-10k/hour range (who from my understanding are usually legitimate pornstars that also escort on the side), who are party girls or have ethnic & age preferences who are incredibly well reviewed, reputable providers who see the most elite clients. It literally means nothing other than for whatever reason they don't want to see certain clients.

Like, if you do fall under the ethnicity or even the age of client who they would prefer not to see and you show up anyway by either lying or avoiding telling them, you're likely going to get turned away or they will reluctantly see you and you will have a bad time. However, with that said if you are polite and respectful when communicating there is a chance they may be willing to make an exception. When I first started this hobby in my early 20s, I fell under some providers age restriction. Be it "no gents under 30 or 25" or "25+ or 30+ gents only" or whatever. But because of how polite and respectful I was, they usually made exceptions for me and I had a good time. I have also seen ads for ladies who only want to see older gents, typically 40+, 50+, 60+. I've reached out and have been turned away every time. Oh well 🤷🏼‍♂️ I was even turned away by Katrina (sexy blonde lapdance and bbj gal most of you are familiar with) when she first started a few years ago because her age restriction was 28+ only or 30+ only. She does see all gents though, I think?

I've even been turned away by Candi, after the last time I saw her. After my last session with her, she said she would not welcome me in the future because I couldn't cum from a BJ in 10 minutes or less. (I can do a normal bng session, 15-20 as per my past bng reviews with Jenesis, Bambeigh, etc.). I asked about her quicky fs when she offers it because I know I can cum from an fs quicky in 15 min or less especially with someone as attractive as her and she still said no. I've never been turned away for this reason, that was a first. But hey, she prefers to see gents who can finish in a shorter than normal time. That's her preference, nothing against her at all. She's a lovely woman. Sucks that I can never experience fs with her because I would love to but again oh well, it is what it is.

I do recognize that for many it can be frustrating to see all the ads with party friendly in it or with the same ethnic or age restrictions. I do 100% understand and empathize, despite generally being unaffected by them. The only thing as clients you can really do is just find and see the providers who welcome all gents or on the case of party friendly, those who don't party aka "D&D free". That's really all there is to it.

However, I hope I've indicated that I do see the problem from both sides. I get it. In a perfect world, in this hobby, if everyone could see everyone that would obviously be great and ideal. I'd love to see that. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the bad apples spoil the whole orchard. This is indicated by both sides. Specifically, those of you who choose not to see party girls from your bad experiences with them. You write all of them off despite not all of them being bad. The same is with them and the clients they don't want to see. They've likely had bad experiences with those clients in the past and don't wish to see them anymore. It is what it is.
In the context of this conversation, I don't think the issue is about if a SP chooses not see a particular ethnicity or not. Instead, it is simply a hypothesis being made that when there is party friendly AND no black men in the ad (together with other triggers), it is more likely to be a red flag.
 

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I won’t hijack the post but if I said no to ever seeing u again after only one time it was definitely more of a reason than just the bj not finishing in a certain time. I always give someone another try if the first time is draining. In fact that’s what I tell people to “let them down” easy due to things like hygiene issues, chemistry, etc.
It wasn't more than once. I've only seen you twice. Once years ago, 2019 or 2020 I think which I wrote a stellar review of you on and you welcomed me to see you again. Then my second time last year because I had a great experience with you the first time. It was after my second session with you that you told me unfortunately you wouldn't see me again and in that same conversation I asked about your fs quickly to which you reinforced the no. If it is also due to a chemistry issue or something else, that is also okay. It wouldn't have been hygiene cause I would have been shaved and I did have a shower at your incall which you offered me before the session. You specifically told me in your words that "I don't like to see clients who wear me out". Which again, fair enough. It's no problem at all and I totally understand. You offer short and quick services for reasonable rates. I've got nothing against you at all. But. If you'd like to PM me or text me about it so we don't hijack the post, you're welcome to. 🙂
 

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It wasn't more than once. I've only seen you twice. Once years ago, 2019 or 2020 I think which I wrote a stellar review of you on and you welcomed me to see you again. Then my second time last year because I had a great experience with you the first time. It was after my second session with you that you told me unfortunately you wouldn't see me again and in that same conversation I asked about your fs quickly to which you reinforced the no. If it is also due to a chemistry issue or something else, that is also okay. It wouldn't have been hygiene cause I would have been shaved and I did have a shower at your incall which you offered me before the session. You specifically told me in your words that "I don't like to see clients who wear me out". Which again, fair enough. It's no problem at all and I totally understand. You offer short and quick services for reasonable rates. I've got nothing against you at all. But. If you'd like to PM me or text me about it so we don't hijack the post, you're welcome to. 🙂
I’m good hun :) All love 🫶
 

RebelinBed

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In the context of this conversation, I don't think the issue is about if a SP chooses not see a particular ethnicity or not. Instead, it is simply a hypothesis being made that when there is party friendly AND no black men in the ad (together with other triggers), it is more likely to be a red flag.
That is fair. I mean, it's certainly possible. I didn't read it that way as both points were brought up separately from each other. However from my experience, I stand by what I said. I've had both good and bad experiences from both "party friendly and no black gent" providers, as well as well reviewed providers. If that is the hypothesis, the results are mixed and inconclusive.
 
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anyway we can start a thread and copy the details with pics of the ads to help other guys not to get burned? ads seem to go up and down fast

Thank you
Maybe a scam thread with ads of all girls and their pics? So there is one location??
 
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