Should euthanasia be legal?

Should euthanasia be legal?

  • Yes

    Votes: 39 54.2%
  • Yes in some cases

    Votes: 24 33.3%
  • No

    Votes: 9 12.5%
  • No opinion

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    72

Yoga Face

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Euthanasia refers to the practice of intentionally ending a life in order to relieve pain and suffering.


Euthanasia (suicide ) is categorized in different ways, which include voluntary or involuntary. Voluntary euthanasia is legal in some countries and U.S. states. Non-voluntary euthanasia is illegal in all countries. Involuntary euthanasia is usually considered murder.

Euthanasia is the most active area of research in contemporary bioethics.


Ariel Castro just killed himself and saved the state $$$$$$$$$.

I suspect others, such as Paul Bernardo, would do so if it was done painlessly and with grace by a MD and a priest etc

Then there are those who live in pain and commit suicide by jumping etc

It is their life and the state has decided they do not own it by making suicide illegal.

This seems an archaic relic of the Christian dark ages where they believed your soul goes to Hell if you commit suicide.
 

red

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Nov 13, 2001
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Euthanasia refers to the practice of intentionally ending a life in order to relieve pain and suffering.


Euthanasia (suicide ) is categorized in different ways, which include voluntary or involuntary. Voluntary euthanasia is legal in some countries and U.S. states. Non-voluntary euthanasia is illegal in all countries. Involuntary euthanasia is usually considered murder.

Euthanasia is the most active area of research in contemporary bioethics.


Ariel Castro just killed himself and saved the state $$$$$$$$$.

I suspect others, such as Paul Bernardo, would do so if it was done painlessly and with grace by a MD and a priest etc

Then there are those who live in pain and commit suicide by jumping etc

It is their life and the state has decided they do not own it by making suicide illegal.

This seems an archaic relic of the Christian dark ages where they believed your soul goes to Hell if you commit suicide.
yes. why can i put down my dog but can't put down some poor suffering sob like blackrock?
 

buttercup

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I vote yes.

Worried about abuses? Come on, Aunt Myrtle, do the right thing and pull the switch. Don't be a selfish old bag. Give the family a rest. Plus, all that money's gonna come in real handy.

Forget abuses. Anyone who has seen a parent or loved one through a terminal illness wants to put the needs of that person FIRST. Sure, if euthanasia is permitted, there will be some abuses. (There is a law against murder, but it still happens.) But we should not allow the possibility of abuses and problems to stand in the way of helping ordinary people in the direst circumstances, who want nothing more than a controlled, painless, and socially acceptable, escape. Let's make it possible for ordinary people to have that, and then worry about abuses.

What to do about terminally ill people who cannot do it without assistance? I don't know.
What about safeguarding people from greedy relations who just want them dead? I don't know.
What about disturbed but healthy people who want to commit suicide? I don't know.

What I do know is that I wanted my mother, when she was dying, to have a way out.

Let's deal with that FIRST.
 

red

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I vote yes.

Worried about abuses? Come on, Aunt Myrtle, do the right thing and pull the switch. Don't be a selfish old bag. Give the family a rest. Plus, all that money's gonna come in real handy.

Forget abuses. Anyone who has seen a parent or loved one through a terminal illness wants to put the needs of that person FIRST. Sure, if euthanasia is permitted, there will be some abuses. (There is a law against murder, but it still happens.) But we should not allow the possibility of abuses and problems to stand in the way of helping ordinary people in the direst circumstances, who want nothing more than a controlled, painless, and socially acceptable, escape. Let's make it possible for ordinary people to have that, and then worry about abuses.

What to do about terminally ill people who cannot do it without assistance? I don't know.
What about safeguarding people from greedy relations who just want them dead? I don't know.
What about disturbed but healthy people who want to commit suicide? I don't know.

What I do know is that I wanted my mother, when she was dying, to have a way out.

Let's deal with that FIRST.
well- the family doesn't have to do it if it was legal- there would be safeguards and done with medical supervision/approval.
 

thumper18474

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Insurance companies frown upon suicides...and might have an issue with it and not payout a life insurance policy..
My carrier would payout 1/2 early if i was terminal but would wait for me to expire before paying out the other 1/2...
 

rhuarc29

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Insurance companies frown upon suicides...and might have an issue with it and not payout a life insurance policy..
My carrier would payout 1/2 early if i was terminal but would wait for me to expire before paying out the other 1/2...
I have no doubt insurance companies would withhold payment for euthanasia recipients, and who can blame them? We have better things to blame them for.

I voted yes, and I'm surprised "yes" is the majority so far, considering how little is being done to legalize it.
 

Perry Mason

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I have no doubt insurance companies would withhold payment for euthanasia recipients, and who can blame them?
Most (all?) life insurance policies are incontestable for suicide, sane or insane, after three years! So why should they not pay upon the death of the insured?

And don't confuse this with the doctrine that a beneficiary who kills the insured should not benefit from his crime. Even there, the insurer still pays, even if not to the beneficiary.

Perry
 

nobody123

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Palliative care works well enough as it is. Don't fuck with it. Or, put some more funding into it so that people's final days can be less painful. Not shorter, just better. Tough cases make shit laws, and for every case of someone suffering from a painful degenerative illness who is physically incapable of killing themselves and wishes they could, there are 10 cases of granny being guilted into ending it earlier than she would without this option. Fuck that.
 

Anynym

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The idea that murdering someone is okay if they are "suffering" is horrifying.

Some suggest that where euthanasia is permitted, the number of cases carried out on people who DID NOT REQUEST it may even exceed the number of those who did request it. And for many of those who do request it, there are viable treatment options available. But once you've murdered someone in accordance with the law, the evidence is in short supply.
 

rhuarc29

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Palliative care works well enough as it is. Don't fuck with it. Or, put some more funding into it so that people's final days can be less painful. Not shorter, just better. Tough cases make shit laws, and for every case of someone suffering from a painful degenerative illness who is physically incapable of killing themselves and wishes they could, there are 10 cases of granny being guilted into ending it earlier than she would without this option. Fuck that.
She's TOFTT? That's ridiculous. I won't say that someone stupid enough to do that deserves it, because that's not true. But I believe people have a responsibility for their own lives. Not legalizing euthanasia takes the power over your own life away from you.

The idea that murdering someone is okay if they are "suffering" is horrifying.
The idea of not helping someone who wishes to end their suffering is horrifying to me.

Some suggest that where euthanasia is permitted, the number of cases carried out on people who DID NOT REQUEST it may even exceed the number of those who did request it.
Obviously, some serious investigation should be done for those cases, as that would constitute murder. I thought we were talking about euthanasia.

And for many of those who do request it, there are viable treatment options available.
Why isn't it the person's choice whether or not they wish to pursue that avenue?
 

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Surprised we haven't heard the religious view point yet !!

FAST
 

nobody123

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Surprised we haven't heard the religious view point yet !!

FAST
First I find myself in agreement with many right wingers about Syria, and now you are reminding me who the main opponents are to legalizing euthanasia. Politics, strange bedfellows and all that, but still... don't remind me!
 

Anynym

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The idea of not helping someone who wishes to end their suffering is horrifying to me.
We have a wide range of tools to manage and eliminate pain and other causes of suffering. Murdering someone is not a way to end their suffering, but rather only ends the 'suffering' of those who are watching - people who aren't in the least bit of medical distress.
 

red

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We have a wide range of tools to manage and eliminate pain and other causes of suffering. Murdering someone is not a way to end their suffering, but rather only ends the 'suffering' of those who are watching - people who aren't in the least bit of medical distress.
you are very lucky to have no experience in this area
 

dirk076

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Not with our health care system trying to free up beds as fast and efficiently as possible.
 

bandit2238

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I recently had to watch my Father deteriorate from Alzheimer's till he passed away in June. I know he would of Never wanted to be how he was in the end and would of wanted me to euthanize him if i was allowed. Everyone should have a right to decide there fate when an illness hits.
 

blackrock13

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I recently had to watch my Father deteriorate from Alzheimer's till he passed away in June. I know he would of Never wanted to be how he was in the end and would of wanted me to euthanize him if i was allowed. Everyone should have a right to decide there fate when an illness hits.
When do you decide it, what's the line?
 
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