Solution to the Pitbull attacks ?
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Any owner regardless of the breed of dog should face an equivalent to a weapons charge if their dog attacks. You want to own an aggressive dog. You better have it under control at all times.
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the breed is too thin... and mental conditions arrise from it... it could help explain some of the cases... i know of some pit owners and the dog is very well behaved and mentaly stable... I own Dobermans.. infact i have had three generation of them... they to have a very demanding attitude... so it is the owners and the stability of the dog that is in question....that is my two cents... no change needed.... best of luck to you pit owners .. it is unfair of some to wreck it for all...
the breed is too thin... and mental conditions arrise from it... it could help explain some of the cases... i know of some pit owners and the dog is very well behaved and mentaly stable... I own Dobermans.. infact i have had three generation of them... they to have a very demanding attitude... so it is the owners and the stability of the dog that is in question....that is my two cents... no change needed.... best of luck to you pit owners .. it is unfair of some to wreck it for all...
The solution is simple...
Make dog owners criminally responsible for what their pet does.
Banning breeds is not the answer.
BTW, statisically the most attacks are done by dalmatians.
My son was scarred for life and nearly killed by a dalmatian.
Make dog owners criminally responsible for what their pet does.
Banning breeds is not the answer.
BTW, statisically the most attacks are done by dalmatians.
My son was scarred for life and nearly killed by a dalmatian.
Owners are the ones that train the dogs and create how they turn out. They are the one responsible for their animals and should be the ones that punished.
The laws of Ontario make a dog owner strictly liable for damages resulting from a bite or attack by the dog on another person or domestic animal. but it havent deter the owners from being irresponsible.
There is a whole Dog Owners� Liability Act but I guess people buy insurance to get away with it
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90d16_e.htm
Is the ownership law helping ?
it is not easy to convict a man for negligence in the court of law and in most cases owners will find a good lawyer to find some loophole to get away with it ...
There is a whole Dog Owners� Liability Act but I guess people buy insurance to get away with it
http://www.e-laws.gov.on.ca/DBLaws/Statutes/English/90d16_e.htm
Is the ownership law helping ?
it is not easy to convict a man for negligence in the court of law and in most cases owners will find a good lawyer to find some loophole to get away with it ...
there's an option missing in the poll-a bullet 2 each 1s head
these dogs are vicious killers-it is in their dna 2 be vicious
these dogs are vicious killers-it is in their dna 2 be vicious
It seems when they're young everything is fine and dandy, but it seems after 4-5 years of age, that's when they become more vicious and can snap. JMHO
Well, the law in Ontario states that breeding and importing various restricted breeds is illegal, so in under 10 years there should be next to no pit bulls and their ilk left. Absolute liability for the segment that attack and it's just a waiting game until their extinction. If I were to make a change to the legislation, I would make it also illegal to prolong the life of said breeds in case of accidents to hasten the march to oblivion.
As for those who say pit bulls should be treated equally to other dogs, I ask this: do we not make distinctions between handguns and assault rifles in the law? The same should be true for the lethality of dogs. Period.
hyperbole
As for those who say pit bulls should be treated equally to other dogs, I ask this: do we not make distinctions between handguns and assault rifles in the law? The same should be true for the lethality of dogs. Period.
hyperbole
http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/danger.htm#Killer dogs
scroll down there is different sections with statistics and some stories.
scroll down there is different sections with statistics and some stories.
Stacey, you neglect two very important things: first is that of working breeds that the pit bull is more apt to snap/attack when not utilized properly. So any argument that they shouldn't be banned is like saying we shouldn't ban missile launcher because they could be used productively. The fact still remains they are higher risk when not used correctly and thus unsafe. Do you think we would be having this discussion if it was a car that exploded when you abused the transmission too much? Second is that while pit bulls indeed have lower total attack/bite incidents than some other breeds, they are on the top end of the scale once you factor the rate per capita of the breed.
The result is that the pit bull can be a nice dog if handled properly but far too unstable to risk the greater good. Peraonally, I think eventually the ban will transform into a strict licensing (sorta like to posess explosives) but for now it is necessary so as to ensure the destruction of pit bulls held by irresponsible owners. Sorry, if that means someones family pet can't have offspring then that's too bad.
hyperbole
The result is that the pit bull can be a nice dog if handled properly but far too unstable to risk the greater good. Peraonally, I think eventually the ban will transform into a strict licensing (sorta like to posess explosives) but for now it is necessary so as to ensure the destruction of pit bulls held by irresponsible owners. Sorry, if that means someones family pet can't have offspring then that's too bad.
hyperbole
The solution is simple. Let the Pitbulls keep their balls and let the walk without a muzzle, however make it mandatory that every tooth in the head be sugically removed. Would they still be a popular breed if the had no teeth???A cat with no claws can do little damage a gun with no bullets can't shoot anyone and a pitbull would never again be able to inflict horrendous injuries again to any one. If a pitbull is found to have its teeth then they are to be destroyed with no debate.
The fact of the matter is that there are many breeds of dogs that have aggressive tendancies and high prey drives. This is not the dogs fault, it was bred into the breed many, many years ago. That is not to say that these are bad breeds of dogs, they serve their purpose. Bull Mastiffs, German Sheppards, Rotties, Terriers, Beagles are all among this type of dog. Yet they are used in the army, by police, and hunters.
It is the owner who is responsible in all cases. Those who disagree just do not to take responsibility for their own actions. I have owned aggressive breeds my whole life, yet my dogs have never bit anyone. Why? I train them, they remain on a leash, I crate them when my childrens friends come over, I socialize them with other dogs, I do not train them to be aggressive.
I realize full well the power and the destructive capabilities of my dogs, the same way I know the destructive capabilities of my car. I drive my car responsibly, and I own my dogs responsibly. One must realize that s/he has to be in control of their animals (regardless of size). This is the reason I will not let my 8 year old walk my Mastiff.
In short, I believe that if a dog bites someone, (of course I am not talking if someone breaks into my house, tries to attack me, or something like that that), they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. To declare genocide on a breed is just wrong.
It is the owner who is responsible in all cases. Those who disagree just do not to take responsibility for their own actions. I have owned aggressive breeds my whole life, yet my dogs have never bit anyone. Why? I train them, they remain on a leash, I crate them when my childrens friends come over, I socialize them with other dogs, I do not train them to be aggressive.
I realize full well the power and the destructive capabilities of my dogs, the same way I know the destructive capabilities of my car. I drive my car responsibly, and I own my dogs responsibly. One must realize that s/he has to be in control of their animals (regardless of size). This is the reason I will not let my 8 year old walk my Mastiff.
In short, I believe that if a dog bites someone, (of course I am not talking if someone breaks into my house, tries to attack me, or something like that that), they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. To declare genocide on a breed is just wrong.
Well, that doesn't particularly help the poor 6 year old that has it's throat torn out. I choose human life over animal life. If wiping out a breed (one that even you seem to agree has been artificially ramped up in aggression) means a child might live, then so be it. The fact of the matter is that these dogs being created at all was an act of barbarism from a much different time. Wiping them out only puts things back into a more natural order. Sure, there are other breeds that are worth targetting but we are starting with pit bulls and we can move to others as things progress.a 1 player said:
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Interesting to see the polls, the two highest results , 48% bann pitbulls because they are dangerous, and 37.5% state it's not the dog's fault, it's the owners. Hmmmm, 85.5% so far,!!!!!!! Pretty powerful statement.
Based on these results and if we believe this is a fair representation of society, lol, it makes sense to me to ban the pitbulls and fine the owners as well, the onus should not be in one area, but both.
Hope this never happens to any of our kids because I'm sure we would want a ban and penalty to the owners as well, at the very least.
Based on these results and if we believe this is a fair representation of society, lol, it makes sense to me to ban the pitbulls and fine the owners as well, the onus should not be in one area, but both.
Hope this never happens to any of our kids because I'm sure we would want a ban and penalty to the owners as well, at the very least.
Live PitBull Attack
Even being hit by a bullet , keeps attacking
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/pitbull-attack-p1.php
Even being hit by a bullet , keeps attacking
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2005/pitbull-attack-p1.php
These dogs should be f'in killed, all of them and i'm a HUGE ANIMAL LOVER AND DOGS ESPECIALLY
Just not these ones.
Well shit, when something always seems to happen, you hear the infamous, "It's not the dog, it's the owner", over and over and over again.
WTF'EVER...it's both, but it's more so innate for the dog to be aggressive, be done with them.
I wouldn't shed a tear if they were all destroyed.
Just not these ones.
Well shit, when something always seems to happen, you hear the infamous, "It's not the dog, it's the owner", over and over and over again.
WTF'EVER...it's both, but it's more so innate for the dog to be aggressive, be done with them.
I wouldn't shed a tear if they were all destroyed.
From a Genetic point of view a Wolf is a species of canine, but you do not want one for a pet because they are wild animals with a mean streak when hungry, and they are always hungry. It is illegal to keep a wolf as a domestic pet because they are classified as wildlife.
How many children have to die before the legislature acts to ban these hateful badly bred malicious Pit bull animals ??
How many children have to die before the legislature acts to ban these hateful badly bred malicious Pit bull animals ??
