Speed Cameras gone giving assholes the checkered flag

lomotil

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On November 14, 2025, speed cameras will be removed as per nonsensical DoFo legislation.
The speed cameras were excellent AI technology which made Ontario’s streets safer which is indisputable.
Initially the cameras would have grabbed a lot of cash, but who cares if it was in the name of public safety.
After people got ticketed, the masses respected the posted speed limits so ticketing went down ( diminishing the alleged cash grab)
There are not enough LE on the roads to have the same deterrent effect as the speed cameras.
Watch the entitled assholes now speed and weave through traffic with impunity.
Yesterday, I saw an entitled mom doing 70 in a 40 zone in our subdivision on her way to pick up her kid after school past the previously vandalized out of service speed cam that had been fucked twice .
DoFo has given those who like to speed, the checkered flag.
 

SchlongConery

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On November 14, 2025, speed cameras will be removed as per nonsensical DoFo legislation.
The speed cameras were excellent AI technology which made Ontario’s streets safer which is indisputable.
Initially the cameras would have grabbed a lot of cash, but who cares if it was in the name of public safety.
After people got ticketed, the masses respected the posted speed limits so ticketing went down ( diminishing the alleged cash grab)
There are not enough LE on the roads to have the same deterrent effect as the speed cameras.
Watch the entitled assholes now speed and weave through traffic with impunity.
Yesterday, I saw an entitled mom doing 70 in a 40 zone in our subdivision on her way to pick up her kid after school past the previously vandalized out of service speed cam that had been fucked twice .
DoFo has given those who like to speed, the checkered flag.

Stupid action to remove them. A simple tax on the ignorant speeding scofflaws.

Maybe if they sent warnings out to those that were less than 15% above the limit and only fined those who were above 15% of the posted limit there would have been less opposition.

But DoFo is just pandering to the entitled loudmouths.
 

GendoIk

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From what i know this isn't a cash grab for cities. I think one city in the GTA receives 20% of the revenue and thats on the higher scale. Also slowing down drivers only leads to longer commutes and an increase in accidents. I'm also not a fan of mass state surveillance.
 

xmontrealer

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From what i know this isn't a cash grab for cities. I think one city in the GTA receives 20% of the revenue and thats on the higher scale. Also slowing down drivers only leads to longer commutes and an increase in accidents. I'm also not a fan of mass state surveillance.
Are you seriously saying that slowing down drivers in school zones significantly leads to longer commutes and increases accidents?

There may be a case made for not every speed camera location is justified, and that perhaps the "over the limit, get a ticket" speed should be adjusted a bit upwards, but not in school zones...
 

GendoIk

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Are you seriously saying that slowing down drivers in school zones significantly leads to longer commutes and increases accidents?

There may be a case made for not every speed camera location is justified, and that perhaps the "over the limit, get a ticket" speed should be adjusted a bit upwards, but not in school zones...
studies show the cameras lead to both.
 

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studies show the cameras lead to both.
AB UCP clowns restricted cameras earlier this year and had to back track months later due to a substantial increase of fatalities at certain locations.

I suspect if collisions at intersections increase the insurance companies will want cameras back in or use it as a way to milk more $$$ in premiums across the board.
 

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The Wild West just got more wild, it was bad enough with the cameras. Get ready for an increase in hit-and-runs, pedestrians getting killed, more dead animals run on the road, more accidents.
Did I leave anything out?
 
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AB UCP clowns restricted cameras earlier this year and had to back track months later due to a substantial increase of fatalities at certain locations.

I suspect if collisions at intersections increase the insurance companies will want cameras back in or use it as a way to milk more $$$ in premiums across the board.
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lomotil

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The Wild West just got more wild, it was bad enough with the cameras. Get ready for an increase in hit-and-runs, pedestrians getting killed, more dead animals run on the road, more accidents.
Did I leave anything out?
Maybe Ford is trying to impress the UCP cabal which has a strong influence on the federal Conservatives who just might ditch Poilievre and Ford may be planning a run at federal politics, who knows. The federal Conservatives hate Ontario PCs anyway.and Ford cannot speak French, and is not so eloquent in English on a good day,
Ford has no real opposition in Ontario as the Liberals are in hibernation and the NDP is a non starter so Ford can risk idiotic plays like outlawing speed cameras.
 

Funliness9

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In 2024 Iread that $40 million of tickets were issued by these cameras, many to repeat offenders. Who knows how many were issued at night or when school was out for summer.

it seems like they did not stop speeding.

I hope that the city will use the new funding given by the province to make changes to the roads so that traffic is calmed in school zones and other areas of concern.
 
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I'm on the fence about what Ford's done, but here are the observations of someone who drives the streets regularly and has for 35 years in this city:

1. I am ALL IN FAVOUR of cameras in school zones. Safety first there. No argument.

2. The way this all transpired screamed "cash grab". First they lowered speed limits across the entire city. Streets that had been 60 for 30 years are suddenly 50. 4 lane roads like Lawrence / Don Mills / University Avenue down by 10 km overnight (in the case of university it went to 40 kms FFS!)

3. They placed cameras on these main roads immediately. No chance to get used to the new limits. Cameras at the bottom of hills. You could hear the cash registers working overtime.
(AS an aside you can't drive a modern car without jumping from 50 to 61 without touching the gas! You need to be on your brakes all the time... which guess what? Everyone does and creates traffic mayhem because everyone brakes in response! This city is a sea of brake lights constantly!)

4. The result?! Travel any major road in Toronto posted at 50km/h. You have people travelling 40km or less, AND braking going down hills in fear of tickets. You have people sticking to 50. You have others pushing the 10km over limit before the ticket kicks in. Put all them together on one road and it's fucking mayhem! The 45 and 50 people will block lanes. No one moves over. It causes gridlock. People are NOW timid and drive in FEAR of tickets. Some will say "great... mission accomplished". Well no. We have a city of people who are now afraid to drive with any confidence. People who won't get through an advanced green left. People afraid to change lanes. People afraid to accelerate to clear a lane in fear of a ticket. Factor this in and add it to the existing problem of distractions galore and you have a city voted worst traffic in North America.

5. As I drive everyday it's painfully clear the cameras were always about cash. It's the easiest thing to measure and ticket. But the real issues are distraction. Fearful driving. Lack of skills. And mot importantly LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY! No cops on the road = everyone doing whatever the fuck they want. The speeding assholes will always speed if no-one ever does anything about it! The ones weaving though traffic never cared and will continue to not care if they're never pulled over. Just look at anyone driving a rental van delivering for Amazon!

As I began. I'm all in favour of cameras in school zones. Or any other traffic calming measures. If they save lives of kids do it.

However, you can't have a city that moves when you've created a clusterfuck of problems. Get some accountability back on the roads. Tougher licensing. License those fucking e-bikes like motorcycles. Driver testing before anyone gets cab or Uber licenses. Which includes an ability to navigate the city without a fucking TV screen in front of your face.

One last note: I don't know who's in charge of the traffic light system, but that's another massive cock up. No two intersections operate the same way. Some go yellow as soon as the don't walk signal finishes. Others have a 5 second delay. Some lights are super fast. Others are painfully long. And they change constantly. The gridlock they create is astounding.

ALL of the above factors are causing issues for traffic and safety. Not people going 51 in a 40 on University Avenue at rush hour!

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Shaquille Oatmeal

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I'm happy they're gone, and I hope they never come back.
I was getting sick and tired of having to constantly watch my speedometer all day long just so I wasnt going 5 clicks over
Agreed. It was such a pain in the ass and not sure how much it contributes to distracted driving.
There should be a system where your car's speed is automatically controlled wirelessly, instead of you having to be distracted.
For example, you enter a street with 50kmph speed limit, a wireless signal is sent from a transmitter at the beginning of the speed limit zone and your car picks it up and electronically adjusts max speed to 50. lol.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Star article from 2 months ago


Are speed cameras ticketing drivers for less than 10 km/h over the posted limit? Here’s what the city said — now we want to hear from you

How many kilometres above the speed limit is enough for a ticket?
For police officers conducting radar speed enforcement, it’s highly unlikely they’d ticket a driver for doing five kilometres an hour or less above the posted limit, and often give drivers a break if they haven’t exceeded 10 km/h over.

But the threshold for some of Toronto’s stationary speed cameras seems to be much lower. In some locations, even one km/h over the limit appears to be enough to net drivers a nasty surprise in the form of a ticket and fine.

How do I know this? Not because the city admitted to it. But a Toronto police officer and a counter clerk at an office where tickets can be paid told me so.
Speed cameras are often in the news lately, largely due to ongoing assaults on the infamous Parkside Drive camera, which has been chopped down six times in eight months. It is the most lucrative of Toronto’s cameras, so far netting the city about $7 million in fines from more than 66,000 tickets since 2022.
My friend and colleague Dave Rider reported in the Star last weekend that Toronto’s 150 speed cameras have been vandalized 484 times so far in 2025, an average of more than 2.5 incidents per day.

That’s an outsized amount of anger. Could part of the cause of such profound enmity be the very low threshold to trigger a ticket?
I’ve had a few myself — including one in 2024 for 7 km/h over — and recently went to an office where fines can be paid to clear them. I got there shortly after 4 p.m. and asked a Toronto police officer on security duty in the lobby for directions.

He said they wouldn’t process my tickets after 4 p.m. and that I’d have to come back, but earlier in the day. We started chatting — I’ve always found most police to be friendly — and I mentioned to him that the speed cameras are deadly efficient.
“They’re not just efficient, they’re a f——— scam,” he told me emphatically, a second cop working with him nodding in agreement.

That got my attention.

He said he regularly talks to drivers who come to the office to pay fines for just a few kilometres over the limit, and sometimes for just one kilometre over.
I went back the next day to settle up. While talking to the counter clerk who processed my payments, I told her what the cop had told me and asked if she takes payments from people busted for driving just a few kilometres over the limit.
Every day, she said.

Even one kilometre over? Yes, she said, adding that some people are hopping mad about it.
No wonder they need two cops for security.
So I sent a note to the city’s communications staff requesting confirmation of what I had learned. Specifically, I asked how many tickets were issued in 2022, 2023 and 2024 for anywhere from 5 km/h over to one km/h over.

Here’s the reply: “The city of Toronto is unable to disclose this level of detail as it would impact enforcement.”
Not only would they not provide any information on the specific number of tickets, they refused to confirm that any tickets had been issued for such infractions.

That begged a supplementary question. I asked them to “please tell me how disclosure of the number of tickets issued for driving one, two or three kilometres per hour over the speed limit would impact enforcement?”
The response came five days later. “The city of Toronto is unable to provide data on the lower speeds as it would compromise the investigative techniques and procedures used in law enforcement.”

Is that dodgy or what?
 
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it seems like they did not stop speeding.

I hope that the city will use the new funding given by the province to make changes to the roads so that traffic is calmed in school zones and other areas of concern.
Reduced speeding by over 40% in ASE zones.

The funding if and whenever it ever arrives will in no way be anywhere near enough for the City of Toronto to keep their crosswalk guard program going, keep the 8 TPS members devoted to speed enforcement nor fund any other further traffic calming measures let alone make the streets safer in school and community safety zones safe. Basically it will gut the city's road safety programs and initiatives.

BUT, most importantly the funding as laid out by the province for road altering safety improvements is a mirage because within the ACT the province has specially banned altering and/or making changes to roadways that take away space/pavement for and/or impede motor vehicles and emergency vehicles. So, no speed bumps, roundabouts, bump outs, planters ......

So basically nothing but a con job from the Thug not based evidentiary based decision making but purely and solely a crass and craven culture war political decision tossing away all common sense.

Wait to see what he has planned for his developer and corporate friends for the City of Toronto owned CNE.

You think the Greenbelt land grab was bad, or the attempted Dominion Foundry lands building demolition, or the closing of the OSC for no other reason than setting the stage to take over those lands and give it to his developer buddies, or the Ontario Thug's Place scam?
 
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