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And so, a promising political career dies......

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Mr. clean got caught dirty. What a hypocrit he is. Being part of the very process he's supposed to be cleaning up. I guess guys like Dick Grasso and Ken Langone will be partying tonight.
 

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Eliot.... please write a review..... LOL

Spitzer taped arranging to meet prostitute: NYT
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NEW YORK (Reuters) - New York Governor Eliot Spitzer was caught on a federal wiretap last month arranging to meet a prostitute at a Washington hotel, the New York Times reported, citing a source familiar with the investigation.

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The Times earlier reported Spitzer had been linked to a prostitution ring. Spitzer did not address the allegation in a brief news conference on Monday but acknowledged unspecified lapses in his personal life.
 

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Welcome to a fellow hobbyist and cheers to his abilty to admit it.


What will his TERB handle be???????

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DonQuixote said:
He shoulda gone to TO like the rest of us.
Thats for sure. He's not as bright as he thinks he is. For someone who has initiated wire taps, he knows whats possible. Obviously his biggest mistake was getting caught. He's just one of many politicians who've been using escorts, but ironically he's the one who got nailed.
 

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BottomsUp said:
Thats for sure. He's not as bright as he thinks he is. For someone who has initiated wire taps, he knows whats possible. Obviously his biggest mistake was getting caught. He's just one of many politicians who've been using escorts, but ironically he's the one who got nailed.
What do you want from a liberal????????


His moto has always been "above the slime who vote"
 
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That and the fact that his face is on TV and in print constantly you'd think he'd be a little more cautious.

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Who knows whats next. Maybe it will be revealed that he's really a Terbite who are well known to think with their small head. No doubt all would then be understood and forgiven.:D
 

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BottomsUp said:
Who knows whats next. Maybe it will be revealed that he's really a Terbite who are well known to think with their small head. No doubt all would then be understood and forgiven.:D
Hey, as long as he writes a review I'm good with him, it's his wife and the voters in NY that may be more of an issue.

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alienencounters said:
question for our American Brethen:

Does making arrangements to have a New York Escort meet you in Washington contravene any FEDERAL laws?

I was once almost refused entry into the US because I told the border guard that I was going to vegas (crossing in buffalo) and when he asked me what was in Vegas I told him hookers and gambling. He told me that I could be refused entry and I better change my reason for going.
It's the hooker comment that got you into trouble, prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas. It takes a certain cluelessness to admit to a border guard.

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alienencounters said:
question for our American Brethen:

Does making arrangements to have a New York Escort meet you in Washington contravene any FEDERAL laws?

I was once almost refused entry into the US because I told the border guard that I was going to vegas (crossing in buffalo) and when he asked me what was in Vegas I told him hookers and gambling. He told me that I could be refused entry and I better change my reason for going.
Addressing your second point first, he was giving you friendly advise that were running afoul of U.S. Immigration Law (which is Federal) and the "immoral purposes" cause barring entry to the U.S. With the exception of Immigration Law and interstate commerce (the Mann Act which Don references above) Prostitution in the U.S. is regulated by State Law.
DonQuixote said:
You raise an interesting point.

Transporting a female across state lines is
one of the oldest federal criminal statutes
on the books. Its called the Mann Act,
or white-slavery
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act

He shoulda got one of those phones where
you pay in advance for the time. I don't
think you have to give your name, just
any name, to activate it.
There is now a paragraph in the New York Times story http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/10/nyregion/10cnd-spitzer.html?ref=nyregion which reads:
“Federal prosecutors rarely charge clients in prostitution cases, which are generally seen as state crimes. But the Mann Act, passed by Congress in 1910 to address prostitution, human trafficking and what was viewed at the time as immorality in general, makes it a crime to transport someone between states for the purpose of prostitution. The four defendants charged in the case unsealed last week were all charged with that crime, along with several others.
This is not good although I do think it would be a bit of a bit of stretch to indict Governor Spitzer under the current wording of the law:

Title 18 § 2421
“Whoever knowingly transports any individual in interstate or foreign commerce, or in any Territory or Possession of the United States, with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.”
The infamous Mann Act to which Don provided a link above was another example of “Do Gooders” at work. It was enacted in 1909 as a result of the "white slavery" hysteria of the first decade of the 20th Century. The press fueled hysteria with sensational stories of innocent girls kidnapped off the streets by foreigners, drugged, smuggled across the country, and forced to work in brothels. Although designed to combat forced prostitution, the law was so broadly worded that it criminalized consensual sexual activity - the “or for any other immoral purpose” clause. Ironically (but perhaps predictably) the newly formed FBI (then just the BI) was unable to find any evidence of widespread “white slavery” (because it wasn’t there). Anyone else see a certain similarity to articles in the Toronto Sun and threads here on TERB?
 

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BottomsUp said:
Mr. clean got caught dirty. What a hypocrit he is. Being part of the very process he's supposed to be cleaning up. I guess guys like Dick Grasso and Ken Langone will be partying tonight.
I'm not sure whether or not Spitzer is a hypocrite, as I'm not exactly sure what he has attacked in the prostitution industry.

Did Spitzer ever say prostitution itself was morally 'wrong'? Did he attack people who used prostitutes?

Or did he just attack the people and businesses that took advantage of working ladies?

Whether he is a hypocrite or not, though, he sure exercised some poor judgment as a politician.

Hey, has anyone found the 'Emperors Club' online, let alone a pic of Spitzer's favourite lady? :p
 

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katsrin said:
I'm not sure whether or not Spitzer is a hypocrite, as I'm not exactly sure what he has attacked in the prostitution industry.

Did Spitzer ever say prostitution itself was morally 'wrong'? Did he attack people who used prostitutes?

Or did he just attack the people and businesses that took advantage of working ladies?

Whether he is a hypocrite or not, though, he sure exercised some poor judgment as a politician.

Hey, has anyone found the 'Emperors Club' online, let alone a pic of Spitzer's favourite lady? :p
According to reports today, he helped put a couple of agencies out of business when he was attorney general. But, aside from that, he was a champion of morality, ethics, and crime prevention. He has engaged in an illegal act by using the services of a prostitute. This contravenes what he publicly stands for. If that doesn't make him a hypocrit, then I don't understand what the term means.
 

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katsrin said:
I'm not sure whether or not Spitzer is a hypocrite, as I'm not exactly sure what he has attacked in the prostitution industry.

Did Spitzer ever say prostitution itself was morally 'wrong'? Did he attack people who used prostitutes?
I believe when he was attorney general he prosecuted escort agencies.
Or did he just attack the people and businesses that took advantage of working ladies?
Apparently he gave a few speeches as attorney general in which he expressed disdain for this industry.
Hey, has anyone found the 'Emperors Club' online, let alone a pic of Spitzer's favourite lady? :p
I tried. The site is offline and using the waybackmachine website only gets you through the site without pictures.
 

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ocean976124 said:
I believe when he was attorney general he prosecuted escort agencies.
Apparently he gave a few speeches as attorney general in which he expressed disdain for this industry.
I tried. The site is offline and using the waybackmachine website only gets you through the site without pictures.
Oh...i see :cool:
 

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A guy like Mr Spitzer could NOT just run to Toronto and call up a escort company. Hes the GOVERNOR of the state of NY. His face is well known. You think these ladies are dumb? They would know who he is, if not before hand, afterwards while watching TV one day.

It doesn't matter if what he was doing was legal or not. This is a man who build himself on being a upright honest guy. Honest men like him, do not go cheating on his wife. I am sure Mr. Spitzer if charged with a crime, will claim he broke no laws. Might be a bad husband, thats all.

Think about Mr. Spitzer just checking in to a Toronto hotel, when the lady goes up to his room, the hotel staff would be going nuts :p Maybe the Four Seasons would take care of him but I doubt it.

No matter where he would have gone, people would have found out soon or later. He was nuts for just doing it. A man in his shoes!
 

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His date must be one high class lady. I don't see her coming out yet and speaking about him. You think the gals in Toronto would keep their mouths shut?

We have to see what happens the next few days, she might speak out yet. She stands to make a lot of $$$, millions for sure.
 
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