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Star:“fat finger” moment - trader hit the "B" instad of the "M" key and P&G drops 33%

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Star:“fat finger” moment - trader hit the "B" instad of the "M" key and P&G drops 33%

Cathal Kelly
Staff Reporter

For five minutes on Thursday, the world’s financial markets went haywire.

Several stocks were rendered momentarily valueless as traders struggled to absorb the blow. In only one instance, iShares Russell 1000 Value Index Fund – a $9.5 billion (U.S.) kitty – went from $59 to 8 cents per in an instant. This morning, it was back up over $59. Other stocks, like mammoth business consultancy Accenture, were rendered momentarily valueless – dipping to a penny per share.

“The sky is falling,” one financier told Reuters.

The Dow Jones Index dropped 1,000 points on Thursday – the worst daily loss in its history. Those ripples were felt across world markets. The TSX dipped 450 points – or nearly 4 per cent.

Before the panic had a chance to sink in, it was over. Markets ended the day badly pummeled, but finished well above record low levels.

So what happened?

The Wall Street Journal suggested it was a combination of jitteriness over unrest in Greece, gnawing worry over the European debt crisis in general and trader error.

Many are pointing to a suddenly infamous “fat finger” moment involving a single, unnamed trader. He/she apparently typed a “b” where an “m” belonged – dumping 15 billion shares of Proctor & Gamble and sparking a plunge. The stock dipped by a third, a shockwave that may have rippled through the rest of the market. :rolleyes:

The Journal also noted that several “high-frequency” trading firms – the engines that keep the markets humming – stopped trading entirely for several key moments. That left a black hole in the market between the start of the panic – at 2:42 p.m. ET – and the beginning of the recovery – at 2:47.

During those five minutes, there simply weren’t enough buyers left in the system.

As a result, the Vix Index – Wall St.’s so called “fear gauge” of volatility – jumped to its highest levels since the bad old days of the sub-prime mortgage crisis.

The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission has begun an investigation into what happened. The Journal hinted that that may include nixing “erroneous” trades. That means, anyone who sunk $1,000 into Accenture at a penny – and who’s now sitting on $4.1 million worth of the stock - probably shouldn’t be going on any spending sprees. LOL - but that takes the fun out of playing the markets
 

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Was that trader with fat fingers using an Apple product?

Maybe they had the same problems Ellen DeGeneres had!

Ellen DeGeneres makes fun of iPhone...

 

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Very good! Computer programs went haywire? All at the same time? I don't buy that! There is much more than meets the eye. Someone mentioned pitchforks in the comments. How about millions of guns in the US? What if their owners go nuts?
I know the author of that article from another forum, and I would respect his opinion.
 

hinz

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Goldman Sachs is behind this.
Hmm...exactly what is the upside for Goldman to do this? Did Warren Buffett tell you this at the AGM? :rolleyes:

Keep in mind if Goldman's influence is that pervasive in "running/controlling" the US government outside Wall Street, it would be very doubtful many of those who want nothing but smashing Goldman into pieces still around and able to convince the rest to join their crusades.

Simply put, Goldman's reach in government and Wall Street is very significant but not as powerful as the press and the populists try to brainwash us to believe.
 

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Very good! Computer programs went haywire? All at the same time? I don't buy that! There is much more than meets the eye. Someone mentioned pitchforks in the comments. How about millions of guns in the US? What if their owners go nuts?
The general consensus about what happened was that the fat finger only started the plunge. It didn't cause the DJIA to plunge over 700 points all on its own. After putting a billion of some company's share for sale instead of a million, the share price dropped a lot. Then because of all the stop-loss orders the computers started selling even more stocks and on the buyers side the computers removed their buy orders because of the plunge and it just got worse and worse. This can all happen at almost the same time because 70% of the trades are now done by computers and the exchanges can process like 4 million transactions per second. The computers didn't go haywire. They did what they were supposed to do.
 
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