Steve Jobs passes away at 56 years old.
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None. Only weak-minded people join cults..So what cult do you belong to?
You wish fanboy.So, you're admitting you are a Farmer????
No valid point there folks. Just fanboy weak boasting. You really like making 'invalid assertions' about me and yourself it seems.Us Apple Fanboys, are actually more intelligent, creative and higher on the evolutionary scale. So, it's doubtful we are small-minded.
Matter of fact you make invalid assertions about everything while dodging.
Hmm... Henry Ford, Walt Disney, Jimi Hendrix, Lennon/McCartney... To name a few. All MASTERS of their chosen professions.can you provide me with someone comparable..
Oh and you should be mad at those 'independent' suppliers' you say you'll buy that book from since they also bumped up the release date to cash in on your master's death. But of course the brainwashing is still working on you and other fanboys.
I thought you belonged to the John Deere Cult? Please see post #167None. Only weak-minded people join cults..
It seems I'm right all the time. My impeccable 'Apple fanboy' intelligence made an educated behavioural guess about your profession -- Farmer. You admitted you were a farmer. See Post #167 againNo valid point there folks. Just fanboy weak boasting. You really like making 'invalid assertions' about me and yourself it seems.
Still waiting on evidence/reply about Woz from you... see post #167 ho-hum againMatter of fact you make invalid assertions about everything while dodging.
All arguably valid 'Masters,' and you can add Steve Jobs to that list now -- though if I was pretending to be you Steve~, "you would say they ripped off other peoples ideas and screwed people as well!"Henry Ford, Walt Disney, Jimi Hendrix, Lennon/McCartney... To name a few. All MASTERS of their chosen professions.
Also, they all have a connection to Steve Jobs, his impact: Ford added iPod jacks to their cars, Walt Disney wouldn't be as successful without Pixar (purchasing Jobs' Pixar for over $7.4B), Hendrix, Lennon/McCartney (they screwed Harrison, and can you say Yoko Ono) -- oh, iTunes (that was a game changer, huh)!
If you don't discount the evidence and do your research Steve~, you might win a point (highly doubtful)
You're replies are getting weaker and weaker Steve~ ...Oh and you should be mad at those 'independent' suppliers' you say you'll buy that book from since they also bumped up the release date to cash in on your master's death.
Why would I be mad at 'independent suppliers'? Even established media giants (NYT, Bloomberg) have bought their copies early.
Oh, a review on the new book Steve~: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/b...lter-isaacson-review.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all
Great summary by reviewer:
Skeptic after skeptic made the mistake of underrating Steve Jobs, and Mr. Isaacson records the howlers who misjudged an unrivaled career. “Sorry Steve, Here’s Why Apple Stores Won’t Work,” Business Week wrote in a 2001 headline. “The iPod will likely become a niche product,” a Harvard Business School professor said. “High tech could not be designed and sold as a consumer product,” Mr. Sculley said in 1987.
Mr. Jobs got the last laugh every time. “Steve Jobs” makes it all the sadder that his last laugh is over.
Give it up brainwashed fanboy.
Newsflash fanboy.. Using bold type does NOT make you right.
While you're at it you should read THIS. but I guess you are not smart enough to stop using your fancy overpriced phone thanks to that Apple marketing that did a great job brainwashing you into thinking you need that phone to be 'cool' right?
*Again... By the way.. Using bold type does not make you right.
Newsflash fanboy.. Using bold type does NOT make you right.
Oh. wait.. You're an idiot! The way you defend him and everything Apple anyone would say you DO worship him so the question now is why do you since you're not a neandrathal primitive caveman fanboy? Why?I never said I worshipped. Or said Jobs was a God. Word of advice, worshipping is for neandrathal primitive cavemen. Oh, wait -- you're a farmer!
Too bad your fanboy intelligence is wrong since I never said I was a farmer and only said you're making silly assumptions about whatever my profession is simply for not liking my opinions. But thanks anyway for showing your parents did a lousy job in raising you since you obviously judge people lesser than yourself if they have a profession (ie: farmers) you deem is below your own for some stupid reason. Yep they did a good job instilling 'Arrogance' in you. I suppose you look at all blue collar workers the same way as well from that marketing office right? Please do yourself and us all a favor and tighten that tie around your neck.It seems I'm right all the time. My impeccable 'Apple fanboy' intelligence made an educated behavioural guess about your profession -- Farmer. You admitted you were a farmer. See Post #167 again
So all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google after telling me to do the same earlier? :Eek:Still waiting on evidence/reply about Woz from you... see post #167 ho-hum again
So you agree with my list. It's about time you found some smarts.All arguably valid 'Masters,' and you can add Steve Jobs to that list now -- though if I was pretending to be you Steve~, "you would say they ripped off other peoples ideas and screwed people as well!"
You just keep avoiding my points so you're in no position to say I haven't won any.If you don't discount the evidence and do your research Steve~, you might win a point (highly doubtful)
You not being mad at the independent suppliers while being mad at Sony or Amazon for doing the same is hypocritical don't you think? My point is they are all the same but for some silly reason you told yourself you'd feel better by using independent instead. How weak.You're replies are getting weaker and weaker Steve~ ...
Why would I be mad at 'independent suppliers'? Even established media giants (NYT, Bloomberg) have bought their copies early.
Yawn! It's too obvious that every reviewer is gonna hype this. You being paid by Apple fanboy?Oh, a review on the new book Steve~: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/22/b...lter-isaacson-review.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all
Great summary by reviewer:
While you're at it you should read THIS. but I guess you are not smart enough to stop using your fancy overpriced phone thanks to that Apple marketing that did a great job brainwashing you into thinking you need that phone to be 'cool' right?
*Again... By the way.. Using bold type does not make you right.
Sure it does. I winNewsflash fanboy.. Using bold type does NOT make you right.
Steve~, you are being illiterate again ...Oh. wait.. You're an idiot! The way you defend him and everything Apple anyone would say you DO worship him so the question now is why do you since you're not a neandrathal primitive caveman fanboy? Why?
Did I mention illiterate? Please see post #167 again ....Too bad your fanboy intelligence is wrong since I never said I was a farmer and only said you're making silly assumptions about whatever my profession is simply for not liking my opinions.
Someone has some parental issues (and it's not me) ......But thanks anyway for showing your parents did a lousy job in raising you since you obviously judge people lesser than yourself if they have a profession (ie: farmers) you deem is below your own for some stupid reason. Yep they did a good job instilling 'Arrogance' in you...
Beep. Beep. Wrong again. I see blue caller workers, executives to CEOs as cogs in a machine. Each needs the other to operate as one smooth machine. It's very Zen, like Steve Jobs!...I suppose you look at all blue collar workers the same way as well from that marketing office right? Please do yourself and us all a favor and tighten that tie around your neck.
Uhhhh ... no ... all you have to do is "scroll up" the page?So all of a sudden you've forgotten how to use Google after telling me to do the same earlier?
I'm obviously more rational, fair and well-informed than you are. And, obviously, Steve Jobs had an equal to greater impact.So you agree with my list. It's about time you found some smarts.
Please see post #167 ... ho hum ... again ....You just keep avoiding my points so you're in no position to say I haven't won any.
I obviously have higher rational ethics than you. Which makes me much stronger and not hypocritical like yourself Steve~You not being mad at the independent suppliers while being mad at Sony or Amazon for doing the same is hypocritical don't you think? My point is they are all the same but for some silly reason you told yourself you'd feel better by using independent instead. How weak.
I'm not stupid -- I would accept a payment or freebie from Apple -- Wouldn't you?Yawn! It's too obvious that every reviewer is gonna hype this. You being paid by Apple fanboy?
Control issues Steve~? Apple enhances my life, it doesn't control it.While you're at it you should read THIS. but I guess you are not smart enough to stop using your fancy overpriced phone thanks to that Apple marketing that did a great job brainwashing you into thinking you need that phone to be 'cool' right?
Yes it does Steve~, yes it does*Again... By the way.. Using bold type does not make you right.
Eat crow. That 60 minutes show basically backed everything I've been telling you. Even people i didn't know in the group that watched it with me said he was an "Asshole' after watching it.. Especially on how he treated that 3rd guy that was in the garage with him and Woz. the show also pointed out that Jobs knew NOTHING about computers or coding.. He was what he told you he was... A Salesman. Nothing more nothing less. :eyebrows: The only good thing was what he told himself after seeing how his employees acted with their new found riches.
*By the way, the bold type STILL does not make you right and you're also looking childish now.
"No matter how impure Thoreau’s experiment in simple living may have been, there was something undeniable in his suggestion that we often have to strip convenience from our lives to feel alive. The iPhone had certainly made my life easier, but had it made my life better?"
Hmm.. ponder THAT^ fanboy.
Answer.. He was a greedy SOB just like any other CEO. But that's ok to you cause you just wanna be... 'cool'.
*By the way, the bold type STILL does not make you right and you're also looking childish now.
Spoken like a well trained sheeple. You got that statement from the Apple fanboy book right? Anyways.. Bullshit! I'd bet you're like that guy who wrote the article I linked to. (and you avoided as usual) Since you like to quote from articles you think share your views I'll post the following from it since it's obviously a question you should ask yourself but I'd bet you're not smart enough to:Apple enhances my life, it doesn't control it.
"No matter how impure Thoreau’s experiment in simple living may have been, there was something undeniable in his suggestion that we often have to strip convenience from our lives to feel alive. The iPhone had certainly made my life easier, but had it made my life better?"
Hmm.. ponder THAT^ fanboy.
You sound like a slave.. err Sheeple talking about his master.I would accept a payment or freebie from Apple -- Wouldn't you?
Wrong. You're the hypocrite for not seeing the independents are aiming to profit just like the big publishers, meaning they are no different.. meaning you're fooling yourself.I obviously have higher rational ethics than you. Which makes me much stronger and not hypocritical like yourself Steve~
Ha! You're justifying the overpricing of Apple products by bringing up other over priced products in a sad attempt to say.. "It's ok!" or "So what!".. Well If your master was so forward thinking as you say.. Why couldn't he counter that and not over price his products then?that's a very poor argument. Do you really want to know the cost of that Timmies coffee, McDonalds Big Mac, the John Deere Tractor Trailer you pull? Do you want to talk about the good(s) you pay that is over-priced? Epic fail Steve~!
Answer.. He was a greedy SOB just like any other CEO. But that's ok to you cause you just wanna be... 'cool'.
You gotta stop dropping those 'baseless assertions' kiddo.I'm obviously more rational, fair and well-informed than you are.
I obviously have higher rational ethics than you.
I'm not stupid..
I win.
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5hummer does not know or care about Ritchie because he does not consider him 'cool'. That's how ill informed he is."Dennis Ritchie the designer and original developer of both the C programming language, and co-creator of Unix has died at age 71 after a prolonged illness. "
That was the brainwashing of being a 'vegan' that made him make that mistake.Is it true that he refused treatment in favor of "natural" remedies when he was initially diagnosed?
I think it was skewed by the media (based on an excerpt from the book).Is it true that he refused treatment in favor of "natural" remedies when he was initially diagnosed?
He wanted to find an alternative to drugs & chemo.
To be honest, I don't blame Jobs, I would do the same. I've seen what drugs & chemo can do to a person, it is painful to watch.
Why should I eat crow? Jobs admits all the time that he is 'difficult.' And, any Apple employee will tell you Jobs was difficult to work with. But, he was right (Jobs' accomplishments prove that). That said, any employee (Cook, Ive, Woz, etc.) also understands that they are working with a very 'special' talented individual. Steve~, it's called Leadership and Visionary.Eat crow. That 60 minutes show basically backed everything I've been telling you. Even people i didn't know in the group that watched it with me said he was an "Asshole' after watching it.. Especially on how he treated that 3rd guy that was in the garage with him and Woz. the show also pointed out that Jobs knew NOTHING about computers or coding.. He was what he told you he was... A Salesman. Nothing more nothing less. :eyebrows: The only good thing was what he told himself after seeing how his employees acted with their new found riches.
Jobs never created the computer, MP3 player, retail stores, etc., etc. But, he had a vision of what these products should be, and, their position(s). Any company (Microsoft, Sony, IBM, Nokia, etc., etc.) had an equal opportunity to create these products, but, it was Steve Jobs that understood how to execute his vision & strategy.
Hey you watched 60 min like everyone else, who's the sheep? Please note, I haven't seen the 60min segment (just read about it).Spoken like a well trained sheeple. .
That is up to the individual. I can apply that to a FAX machine or an automobile? Ridiculous argument."No matter how impure Thoreau’s experiment in simple living may have been, there was something undeniable in his suggestion that we often have to strip convenience from our lives to feel alive. The iPhone had certainly made my life easier, but had it made my life better?"
Hmm.. ponder THAT^ fanboy.
Well, are you denying people have to make a living? We don't all live on a farm like yourself (see post#167)? I bet you are no different, what are you exploiting for profit?Wrong. You're the hypocrite for not seeing the independents are aiming to profit just like the big publishers, meaning they are no different.. meaning you're fooling yourself.
It seems you put like to put yourself on a higher moral pedestal? But you sound like the biggest hypocrite of them all.
I guess you forgot to read what you wrote about Steve Jobs on 60 minutes?.. Well If your master was so forward thinking as you say.. Why couldn't he counter that and not over price his products then?
Answer.. He was a greedy SOB just like any other CEO. But that's ok to you cause you just wanna be... 'cool'.
And, you never answered my question regarding pricing products? See post #167 AGAIN!
So, please enlighten us about pricing, profit and overhead? I'm sure Tim Hortons, McDonalds, Sony, Home Depot, would love to hear your opinion, please!
You seem to be avoiding my questions and negating Apple & Steve Jobs' impact on the world.You gotta stop dropping those 'baseless assertions' kiddo.
Maybe, you should do your research and pick up a copy of his book. Then, maybe, you can stop arguing like a 5th grader.
Oh, don't forget to watch this tribute, A Celebration of Steve's Life: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/10oiuhfvojb23/event/index.html
That's not a fair argument. You live on a farm and are self-sufficient. See post #167That was the brainwashing of being a 'vegan' that made him make that mistake.
Oh shut up. It's obvious by now the book rips him to shreds concerning everything other than his business life. You're still avoiding the point I made that he ripped off Woz. Just because he has no sour grapes about it now does not excuse it. You act like you want to pretend it never happend. Keep dreaming.You seem to be avoiding my questions and negating Apple & Steve Jobs' impact on the world.
Maybe, you should do your research and pick up a copy of his book. Then, maybe, you can stop arguing like a 5th grader.
Oh hush. i answered your question by stating you're excusing Apple for over pricing just because other companies do it, but we're not talking about those other companies here. So stop avoiding and making excuses to the fact that Apple way overpriced it's products considering the slave labour to cut costs used to make them.you never answered my question regarding pricing products? See post #167 AGAIN!
So, please enlighten us about pricing, profit and overhead? I'm sure Tim Hortons, McDonalds, Sony, Home Depot, would love to hear your opinion, please!
Since you like to post links read this and shut up.
It looks like the people who had to deal with Jobs day to day aren't shedding too many tears over his death. The only sad ones are the zealots who blindly purchased his expensive trinkets. Hmmm..
Look at you saying you would 'do the same' simply because the matter involves your idol. If it was some regular bloke you would say he was crazy just like everyone else. It goes to show that you are STILL blinded by the billions. Like the 60 min show and the book point out and I've told you since pg one. His ARROGANCE did him in. Jobs ARROGANTLY thought he was special. That the normal rules didn't apply to him. He parked in handicap spaces. Denied fathering his first child. Drove without a license plate. That ARROGANT thinking has brought him great success, failures.. and an early death. When he was diagnosed with cancer, he delayed treatment and pursued other alternative medicine due to his ARROGANCE. He ARROGANTLY figured he 'knew more' than the doctors treating him. :eyebrows: It was his choice. But cancer does not discriminate if you're rich, poor, famous, or a genius. When there's a treatment with a very good chance of survival and your massive ARROGANT ego thinks you can heal yourself, that's just stupidly misguided.I think it was skewed by the media (based on an excerpt from the book).
He wanted to find an alternative to drugs & chemo.
To be honest, I don't blame Jobs, I would do the same. I've seen what drugs & chemo can do to a person, it is painful to watch.
Karma is a bitch fanboy.
Not going to happen, soon-to-be Apple Fanboy! Hail Steve Jobs your new God!Oh shut up.
You haven't read the book, have you? Or, you did read it!!! Converted Apple fanboy!It's obvious by now the book rips him to shreds concerning everything other than his business life.
So you're making emotional decisions for Woz now? You must like getting fucked over and then asking for seconds by bending over.You're still avoiding the point I made that he ripped off Woz. Just because he has no sour grapes about it now does not excuse it. You act like you want to pretend it never happend. Keep dreaming.
Obviously you are self-sufficient in your little farm (as per post #167). But you'll probably shoot yourself when you realize how much you overpaid for that Tim Horton's coffee or that automobile that you drive! And, don't forget the slave labour that picked the beans for your coffee, made your can of Coke or made the parts for your automobileOh hush. i answered your question by stating you're excusing Apple for over pricing just because other companies do it, but we're not talking about those other companies here. So stop avoiding and making excuses to the fact that Apple way overpriced it's products considering the slave labour to cut costs used to make them.
You still haven't explained to us, the cost of doing business -- you know -- pricing goods, positioning, competition, overhead, taxes, marketing, sales, profit, etc., etc.
Takes a real man to admit his weakness,' allow the author full access to his life and not meddle with the author. "Jobs asked for no control over what was written nor even the right to read it before it was published. He put nothing off limits."Since you like to post links read this and shut up.
Plus, it was written for his children, to get to know him better -- pretty noble, huh?
Wrong again, he's received tributes from plenty of your idols, McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Obama, Gates (Microsoft), Page & Schmidt (Google), etc., etc..It looks like the people who had to deal with Jobs day to day aren't shedding too many tears over his death. The only sad ones are the zealots who blindly purchased his expensive trinkets. Hmmm..
See, A Celebration of Steve's Life : http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/10oiuhfvojb23/event/index.html
Nope. Again, you are illiterate and did not read my post. I've seen a friend go through a losing battle with cancer. It was painful to see this person go through treatment(s) of drugs and chemo. If I was diagnosed with cancer and offered drugs and chemo -- I'd rather find an alternative and just take the cancer. The drugs and chemo are a slow and painful death as far as I'm concerned.... That ARROGANT thinking has brought him great success, failures.. and an early death. When he was diagnosed with cancer, he delayed treatment and pursued other alternative medicine due to his ARROGANCE. He ARROGANTLY figured he 'knew more' than the doctors treating him. It was his choice. But cancer does not discriminate if you're rich, poor, famous, or a genius. When there's a treatment with a very good chance of survival and your massive ARROGANT ego thinks you can heal yourself, that's just stupidly misguided.
So, Steve~ if you had cancer, would you find an alternative first or do drugs & chemo?
Karma is a woman???? That explains a lot about you Steve~ !Karma is a bitch fanboy.
So, Steve~, I assumed you picked up the digital iBook version (and read it on your iPad all night), right?
I suspect he hasn't read and is simply trying to use it to back some point he's trying to make. Possibly, if he did pick it up from the shelf, he might think it would burst into flames.
lolol.i suspect he hasn't read and is simply trying to use it to back some piont he's trying to make. Possibly, if he did pick it up from the shelf, he might think it would burst into flames.
Very impressive. Sounds like you are on your way to being a Apple Steve Jobs convert. BTW, Happy 10th Anniversary iPod!I have not read the book fanboy. I'm using news reports and suck up reviews.
