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Insidious Von

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Father Guido Sarducci put magic mushrooms in Cardinal Fungi's salad.

The new American Pope spent more time doing missionary work in South America instead of lounging in the USA.

 

Insidious Von

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Oh no, The Vatican drink my battery acid!

A graduate of Villanova University and a dual citizen of Peru and a Shithole Nation. Villanova must be sayiing, suck it Notre Dame.

 

Ceiling Cat

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Bob Prevost from Chicago.

The Donald will be happy.
Probably not. The new Pope believes that the wealthy have a responsibility to help society by creating more opportunities for the underprivileged.

 

Insidious Von

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He will likely follow Francis' philosophy and continue supporting gay marriages.
Conil you're not looking at the logistics of the situation. You can't condemn homosexuality while having your priests gaily diddling away. Pope Benedict XVI chose to stand firm while lawsuits mounted - it was not a good look for Catholicism. Pope Francis changed course in his humble manner, the problem hasn't gone away but it's not the monster it once was. Lets see where Pope Leo XIV leads.

He's a paradox, born in Chicago but didn't go to Notre Dame.

 

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Cardinal Calls On Next Pope To Stand Up to 'Gay Lobby'

Cardinal Gerhard Müller has called on the next pope to stand up to the "gay lobby" as the race to choose the next leader of the Catholic church continues.

Speaking to local media, Müller, a German cardinal who served as prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith from 2012 to 2017, said homosexuality was "contrary to the doctrine of the Church" and urged the next pope to not give into "pressure" from external sources and be "strong on doctrine."

Why It Matters
The late pope was widely considered to be an inclusive one, sometimes to the dismay of the more traditionalist within the Catholic Church. Tensions between liberal and conservative wings, between pro- and anti-Francis camps, are sure to arise during the opaque proceedings of the conclave that will elect the next pope.
What To Know
Speaking to Italian newspaper La Stampa on April 28, Müller said the next pope should have "a solid theological and doctrinal formation," which is "neither authoritarian nor weak."

"If Jesus says that marriage is between a man and a woman and is indissoluble, no pope can change this doctrine," he added. "The homosexual lobbies want to equate unions between people of the same sex to marriage, but this totally contradicts the doctrine of the Bible. We can discuss concrete, individual pastoral care for individuals, to guide them to Christian life, but we cannot accept gender ideology, which is contrary to the doctrine of the Church."

Pope Francis kept the Vatican's position that homosexual acts were sinful, however the late pope also took a more inclusive stance on LGBTQ+ rights. In 2023, he allowed the blessing of same-sex couples and said being homosexual was "not a crime." He also said transgender people can be baptized and serve as godparents.

Müller previously criticized the late pope for his more liberal views.

What People Are Saying
Müller told La Stampa: "We are not representatives of ideological factions or some lobby, we must not give in to external and media pressure, we belong to the whole Church."

President Donald Trump recently weighed in on the election, telling reporters on April 29: "I'd like to be pope. That would be my number one choice. No, I don't know, I have no preference...I must say we have a cardinal [Timothy Dolan, who has been the archbishop of New York since 2009] that happens to be out of a place called New York who's very good."

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The future of the Catholic church is not in Europe or North America, those cardinals who attended the conclave are yet to understand that the Western nations Catholic demographics is on its knees. Should have been time for Africa...

Africa is home to one of the fastest-growing Catholic populations in the world. In countries like Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Uganda, Catholicism is flourishing, both in numbers and spiritual vitality. This demographic shift warrants a leadership that reflects the new center of gravity for the Church.

Electing an African pope would send a powerful message about the universality of the Church. It would affirm that Catholicism is not a Eurocentric institution but a global community. This could help bridge racial, cultural, and geographic divides and give a sense of belonging to millions who often feel marginalized.

Many African clergy have taken strong stands on issues of poverty, corruption, and injustice, often risking their lives to speak truth to power. An African pope could bring a fresh moral authority to the papacy, grounded in lived experience with global inequities and the Church's social teachings.

The African Church is known for its vibrant life, strong community bonds, and deep spirituality. An African pope could enrich the global Church with this perspective, helping to renew and invigorate Catholic practice.

African bishops and cardinals often represent a blend of traditional Catholic values and progressive engagement with modern social challenges. An African pope could offer a balanced path between doctrinal continuity and pastoral reform, particularly in areas like family life and interfaith dialogue.

Africa, I hear you cry foul yet again...
 
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The future of the Catholic church is not in Europe or North America, those cardinals who attended the conclave are yet to understand that the Western nations Catholic demographics is on its knees. Should have been time for Africa...
No shit, they need new suckers to keep their racket going, because the old ones are quitting. It's the same strategy employed by the Tobacco companies.
 

Insidious Von

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A sword has two blades, if you stand up to the gay lobby, you have to stand up to the diddler lobby as well. That problem hasn't gone away. Until it's resolved, the conservatives are impotent, Pope Leo will continue what Pope Francis started.

The Pope exerts tremendous soft power. Sometimes it's used for good - John Paul II standing up to the USSR. Sometimes not so good - Pope Benedict XVI attempted to get Italy's legalization of abortion repealed. It failed, along with the diddler crisis forced him to resign.

Michael Kosta better be careful, Cardinal Zuppi may put purga in his minestrone.

 

Frankfooter

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Hasnt even been 24hrs yet and new pope is already confronted with sexual abuse allegations 😂

He allegedly has a history of "looking the other way" :rolleyes:

Even so, I'd still try to keep your cucumber issue private.
 
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