Think we're rid of the suprime mortgage fiasco, think again.

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Nope, two more scandals about to hit, similar to sub-prime. Wall Street saw these coming, however. 60 Minutes did a thing on it some time ago, interviewed the guy who not only predicted last year's melt-down, but the timing as well.
 

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Don't leave us in suspense, what are the other two?

Obama has an affair and joins the long list of US presidents who fool around while in office?

Escortiing will finally be legalized?

Come on guy, spill the beans. :D
 

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Both were similar to sub-prime, basically bad mortgages. One as big as sub-prime, the other about half the size. I can't remember the exact details, and am too lazy to search for it now!
 

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Wells Fargo puts (bought 3x than normal) expire October 17 - 24, expecting the stock to be only $17.00. Let me guess......Wells Fargo becoming the FDIC bank?

Gyaos Baltar.
 

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Wells Fargo puts (bought 3x than normal) expire October 17 - 24, expecting the stock to be only $17.00. Let me guess......Wells Fargo becoming the FDIC bank?

Gyaos Baltar.
????? WFC US is $28.38
 

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...yeah. Option Arm, and Alt A.

That 60 min report is worth watching.

The Housing Collapse of 2010 Will Be Worse Than 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kunB4SnAh4g&feature=related
OMG, how did I miss this episode, that is one frightening prediction, but reality. I knew about the teaser mortgage rate, but thought we were well into it, but obviously not, that will be huge!!

Look at these stats:

110,000 home for sale in South Florida
55,000 are now in foreclosure
19,000 are owned by the banks
68% of all homes have some form of distress


I'm waiting to buy in the next couple of years, looks like prices still have a ways to come down.
 

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????? WFC US is $28.38
I know. I know. But it is true. The puts were bought on September 01, 2009. I want to know why 3x the amount were bought. What did they know to buy so many? Big risk.....are Wachovia books hidden? It was hard to find it through Google (you know that commercial company, hiding the truth in search, to keep their own shareholders rich). The info was broadcast on Bloomberg at the US 4pm close by a trader, when the market collapsed that day (09/01/09).

Gyaos.
 

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OMG, how did I miss this episode, that is one frightening prediction, but reality. I knew about the teaser mortgage rate, but thought we were well into it, but obviously not, that will be huge!!

Look at these stats:
110,000 home for sale in South Florida
55,000 are now in foreclosure
19,000 are owned by the banks
68% of all homes have some form of distress

I'm waiting to buy in the next couple of years, looks like prices still have a ways to come down.
I think the condo from $2.1 Million to $939,000 was enough to tell me, I'm not buying a house in FL. A condo, okay, please go lower.
Well, off to Starbucks. At least I get a caffeine high and I hold my cock tight looking at the Thai girl cashier for $3.00

Gyaos Baltar.
 

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Very interesting.

It's all predicated on higher interest rates - which really is inevitable. The US FED is printing up money on an unprecidented scale thereby driving down the US dollar, thereby creating inflation, thereby putting upward pressure on interest rates.

The Canadian situation is again different because the banks here are not in the business of loaning money without checking you out. They will not give you a mortgage if you have no income.

However, what will be their exposure to these US Investments?

And if this does come to be, you could see the stock market cut in half.
 

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And if this does come to be, you could see the stock market cut in half.
I don't know if the Dow will cut in half, but it's due for a major bear correction, could test its recent low of 6460.

Time to load up on gold, although I'm noticing a direct correlation recently, market down, gold down, market up, gold up, hmmmmm, getting worried now. I need gold to hit $1500 so I can buy that luxury condo down in Florida. :D
 

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I don't know if the Dow will cut in half, but it's due for a major bear correction, could test its recent low of 6460.

Time to load up on gold, although I'm noticing a direct correlation recently, market down, gold down, market up, gold up, hmmmmm, getting worried now. I need gold to hit $1500 so I can buy that luxury condo down in Florida. :D
Read this before you load up on gold:

http://thestar.com/article/694615
 

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Very interesting.

It's all predicated on higher interest rates - which really is inevitable. The US FED is printing up money on an unprecidented scale thereby driving down the US dollar, thereby creating inflation, thereby putting upward pressure on interest rates.

The Canadian situation is again different because the banks here are not in the business of loaning money without checking you out. They will not give you a mortgage if you have no income.

However, what will be their exposure to these US Investments?

And if this does come to be, you could see the stock market cut in half.
Except that both the Fed in the US and the Bank of Canada have both said that they're keeping interest rates low for the foreseeable future...

Timbit
 

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I don't know if the Dow will cut in half, but it's due for a major bear correction, could test its recent low of 6460.

Time to load up on gold.

I'm a big gold bug and have been for a long time. My main source of reading on these nightmares is;

http://jsmineset.com/

I agree we could see another whopping down in the markets but remember that gold and, even worse, gold stocks also got drubbed last time.

Remember, when they raid the whorehouse they take ALL the girls.
 

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It's all predicated on higher interest rates - which really is inevitable. The US FED is printing up money on an unprecidented scale thereby driving down the US dollar, thereby creating inflation, thereby putting upward pressure on interest rates.
Japan did the same thing in the 1980's, printing money as fast as they could run the printing presses, and yet Japanese inflation and interest rates stayed near zero, in fact went negative, for around a decade. It is NOT inevitable. We are not that lucky.

In fact, rather than face inflation, it is much more likely that we will experience crippling deflation.

Ordinarily you can fend off deflation by printing money, but due to the depression economics we're stuck in, printing money is impotent: No matter how fast the Fed prints it, inflation does not respond. That is NOT a good thing.

It means that people are hoarding the printed money. Put another way, assets (especially real estate assets) are declining in value at a faster rate than the Fed is printing money: Think about what dollar value is associated with all of the real estate in the United States: If that real estate drops by, say, 30% in value, how much money do you have to print to avoid severe deflation?

I too yearn for those good old days when monetary policy was as effective as you seem to imagine it is. Nobody believes that the Fed has that kind of power anymore--it practically does not matter what the Fed does. No matter how much money they print, we have to deleverage, disinvest, and deflate.
 
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