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Thinking about minimum wages, and thinking about them like an economist

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Thinking about minimum wages, and thinking about them like an economist

There is a movement afoot, and there is an election in the offing. Always a great dance to watch, no matter what the issue.

The latest show is taking place in Ontario, where “$15 & Fairness” is the rallying call for raising the minimum wage, and has found a willing partner in the province’s Premier who will go to the polls in the spring, but in the meantime has legislated significant increases in the minimum price for an hour of work. The same dance plays out in the United States, and in many cities and states a minimum wage of $15 per hour is becoming a reality.

The big question in Ontario is exactly that raised by The New York Times during the 2015 primaries when Bernie Sanders was battling Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination: “As the campaign for a $15 minimum wage has gained strength this year, even supporters of large minimum-wage increases have wondered how high the wage floor can rise before it reduces employment and hurts the economy.”

Something to think about, but how would you think about it if you were an economist? Here are four rules of the road that might come in handy regardless of which dance you might be watching next time.

1. Put things into perspective, get a sense of the magnitudes

The headline of a January 3rd article in Toronto’s largest circulation newspaper, The Star, is entirely accurate, and completely misleading.



Source: https://www.thestar.com/business/ec...-60000-fewer-jobs-by-2019-bank-of-canada.html, accessed January 3, 2018

Fortunately, the article summarizing an analytical study from Canada’s Central Bank is much more helpful because it puts the magnitudes involved into perspective. Well, almost. The meaning of this line in the article really rests upon your understanding of the word bleak: “The Bank of Canada report joins other reports in painting a bleak picture of the effect of wage increases.” Bleak … for whom? Workers or businesses?

Your first rule of the road when thinking like an economist is to get a sense of scale. Is 60,000 a big number or not?

It is not, and furthermore it has a lot of statistical fuzziness associated with it.

Statistics Canada reports that 18,648,000 Canadians held a paying job last December, reflecting a rise of 78,600 during the previous month. A change in employment of 60,000 “by 2019” amounts to something like 5,000 a month, and doesn’t seem so large in this context. This is much less than the rounding error Statistics Canada associates with its statistics, and even the Bank of Canada study admits that its estimate could reasonably be half the size, or twice as large. You don’t even have to read the opaque text to see that, just scan the one-paragraph summary.

Besides, this is a number for the country as a whole, examining scheduled increases in all the provinces, not a specific estimate of the Ontario impact.

Bottom line?

If raising the minimum wage has a negative impact on employment, it is not much at all. So if you are an employer, and particularly a small business in a very competitive industry in which you don’t have much room to raise prices, then yes, this might be described as bleak. But if you are a worker, chances are this will not cause you to lose your job, and your income will go up.

The Star headline could just as easily, indeed probably more accurately, have read: “Minimum wage increases put more money in the pockets of low wage Canadians.”

Now you have a sense of why there is so much heat on the dance floor. This is about how the pie is being sliced, and raising the minimum wage is going to put more money in the pockets of some workers, less in the bank accounts of some business owners.

No wonder there’s a lot of fuss, and why some will love headlines that scream about the possibility of job loss, however minimal they appear to you—the economist with a sense of scale—and the other coldhearted number-crunchers at the Bank of Canada.



The Federal Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation uses a cheap shot in his twitter feed to dismiss policy discussion that might challenge the political views of his organization. Source https://twitter.com/awudrick/status/949001909460983809

But your job is not done. After all, a careful look shows that the minimum wage changes are not trivial, and they have been implemented with urgency. The legislation implies a slightly more than 20 percent increase, whether in general or for students, on January 1st, and puts forward another 7 percent next year.



Source: https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/minimum-wage, accessed January 6 2017

Also put this in context.

Statistics Canada reports that for the country as a whole the average wage is about $15 to $16 per hour for 15 to 24 year-olds, and between $28 and $29 dollars per hour for those older. So the job market for young people is heavily influenced by the minimum wage, and more generally the new minimum wage rates are approaching or higher than one-half of the overall average wage for adults.

A quick way to do a little research is to get into the habit of following trusted sources on Twitter. Lindsay Tedds and Trevor Tombe are two among many Canadian economists who do a great job, and are particularly timely on this issue. Their tweeter feeds offer some historical context, and show that the Ontario minimum wage has rarely been this high, and has never increased by so much, so quickly.

There is more to this story, and you need to keep thinking.

2. Labour markets are dynamic

Your second rule of the road is to draw on a wealth of knowledge about the astounding dynamics that characterize the job market.

When Statistics Canada says the number of employed increased by 78 odd thousand last month, what it means is that hundreds of thousands of jobs came to an end—either through layoffs or quits—and hundreds of thousands of jobs were started through new hires.

The monthly layoff rate is around 3 percent, the quit rate somewhere between 1 and 2 percent, and about another 1 percent of the employed move from one job to another. If there is something like 18.5 million employed people in recent months, then something like 550,000 will be laid off, and somewhere around 200,000 to 300,000 or more will quit their jobs. A good many others will be hired after looking or not even looking for a job, and others will move between jobs: hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people change places every month.

Last month, the net result of all this destruction, creation, and movement was a positive 78,600. It is in this sense that the economy “created” jobs. Flux, change, movement, are the metaphors you should be using to understand the job market.

And this perspective allows you to appreciate that there are consequences to higher minimum wages, even if the overall number of jobs doesn’t change much in the short run.

I’ve taken the information on layoff and quit rates from a nice research paper by my University of Ottawa colleague ************ Brochu and his co-author David Green.**You can read it, or a brief summary they also wrote. Here’s how the process works.

Businesses rarely lay workers off when the minimum wage goes up. Two things happen instead.

The immediate response in the face of higher wage costs is to adjust by slowing hiring rates, and let the natural attrition of workers gradually lower the rate at which employment costs grow. For the most part, we are talking about existing firms not growing as fast as they might.

At the same time we should appreciate not only that workers are less likely to quit, but that layoff rates actually fall as firms become more invested in their more loyal and productive employees. So in some sense a high minimum wage economy is different from a low minimum wage economy, even if on net the overall level of employment is roughly the same. There is longer job tenure and lower hiring, jobs are more stable, the jobs market is less dynamic.

Ironically, this adjustment process implies that you are less likely to lose your job, but if you don’t have one, you will spend a longer time looking, particularly if you are a teenager.

When we are in this dynamic frame of mind we can more clearly appreciate what all the fuss is about.

The change in the Ontario minimum wage may have been so large, and introduced too quickly, for this evolutionary adjustment process to work its magic. Quit rates fall immediately, but lower hiring doesn’t have time to have an impact, and wage costs go up without any increase in revenues.

In other words, in the short-term it is all a fight over a fixed pie.

Basically, you can think of higher minimum wages as giving workers greater bargaining power; think of them as a proxy for unionization, at least in the short-term. Eventually, and particularly if there is higher productivity from a more stable group of employees, or if there is robust growth around the corner, the fuss will die down.

When things settle down, higher minimum wages may contribute to changing the nature of the labour market: there are more stable jobs for less educated workers that are harder to get. This is the way Brochu and Green summarize their research:

the results for less educated workers imply that an increase in the minimum wage results in more stable jobs, but fewer of them. Thus, the policy debate should not just be about the employment rate effects of minimum wage increases but about the trade-off between good jobs with higher wages and more job stability versus easier access to jobs. And the debate is relevant for all of the low educated labour market, not just teenagers.

3. Time matters

The third rule of the road has been implicit in our entire discussion. Let’s put it on the table.

We have used words like “eventually,” “short run,” “long run,” and “when things settle down.” Time matters, and the economic effects in the short run can be very different in the long run when businesses have more time to adjust by changing their investments in their workers, and in the way they do business.

When they do hire workers, business will be more discerning, and be more inclined to give jobs to the most productive among potential candidates, who as a result are less likely to be laid off in the future. To make them more productive, and reduce the labour costs associated with producing their stuff, businesses will invest in them, and in new equipment.

The restaurants of the future? Well, they are going to polarize into, on the one hand, a high-end of quality, unique consumer experience, and refined service requiring a dedicated and savvy labour force, and, on the other hand, a low-end of standardized products and automated delivery with little human interaction.

My favourite example of the later is the Cupcake ATM on Lexington avenue on the upper east side of Manhattan.

But heck, you don’t have to move to New York to see this, just walk into your closest MacDonald’s, which has changed a good deal since I worked in one as a teenager decades ago, even if the menu hasn’t.


Besides, I’ve never been a fan of the obvious inefficiencies of lining up at a Tim Horton’s drive thru anyways. It can’t be so far down the road,**if the corporation can prove to be enterprising enough, before this is replaced by some sort of fancy spigot, that will be quicker and leave us pleased with our double-doubles, much in the way the cupcake ATM leaves its patrons giggling with delight.

In the long run, businesses have more scope to adopt these changes and economize on low-paid, low-skilled workers. Those that don’t adapt may disappear, and others will take their place in a new form.

4. Policy is endogenous

My own view is that this process has been going on for some time, and is driven as much, even more, by the very sharp falls in the cost of capital equipment than in the rising cost of labour. It is relative prices that matter, and the comparative cost of capital—thanks in part to computerization—has fallen tremendously, minimum wage increases or not.

My point is that increases in minimum wage rates are as much a result as they are a cause of labour-saving investments.

Policy is endogenous. Trust me, I’d be failing you if I didn’t burden you with that word. “Endogenous.” Just don’t go to Wikipedia for the definition. An absolutely essential rule of the road for economists navigating public policy discussion is to recognize that things interact and influence each other. The changing nature of work is as much an influence on the policy process, as the policy process is on the nature of work.

So what is all this really about? It is easy to portray this, as I admit I partially have in the introduction, as an opportunistic politician looking for a wedge issue in advance of an election. But there is more to it than that. The politician is responding to the growing inequality in the job market that makes it harder for low educated workers to climb the ladder to the middle class, to the growing insecurity of many others, and to the more challenging job prospects of the young.

Minimum wage increases weren’t dropped onto the stage out of the blue, they are a response to a deeper need or anxiety among some significant fraction of the population. That is why they might be perceived to have political traction.

The question this leaves you with, and which has been missed in much of the public discussion, is whether higher minimum wages, by themselves or in combination with other policies, are the best way to develop a more inclusive labour market with less inequality in the bottom half of the income distribution. If all of this is about income distribution, then we should debate that directly.

That debate will surely flare up in the coming months, and you will need your rules of the road as the provincial government learns lessons from its basic income pilot and moves to reform income assistance, as the federal government proposes changes to the Working Income Tax Benefit in its next budget, and as the country begins to debate how to implement a Poverty Reduction Strategy.

https://milescorak.com/2018/01/07/thinking-about-minimum-wages-and-thinking-about-them-like-an-economist/
 

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Because this raise came through legislation and affected every employer equally, no one's competitive position was damaged. This increase has been in the works for well over a year, and has been thoroughly and widely publicized from the get-go. No business manager has any excuse for being flatfooted without a sensible plan for dealing with it calmly, effectively and without disruption. Not to mention without negative publicity that reflects badly on their continent-wide brand. The current Timmies brouhaha makes it clear that mere ownership ≠ competence in management.

But like the work of brewing coffee and selling it, management is real-world, not the moral philosophy economists deal with.
 

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There is cause & effect in any situation.
You can not raise a businesses expense without effects.
If prices rise to compensate,taxes paid also rise causing inflation for all ,yet the poor also are stuck with this and their buying power may not actually increase despite the rise in wages.
If prices do not rise,other efficiencies will need to be found including job losses leading to lower tax revenues & increased welfare state costs.
Business profits will decrease also leading to lower tax revenues.
The government really wants inflation & the increased revenues it brings as they are broke & can not admit it.
Governments want you to believe they can suck & blow at the same time.
Its always very nice when governments try to redistribute your money.
 

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There is cause & effect in any situation.
You can not raise a businesses expense without effects.
If prices rise to compensate,taxes paid also rise causing inflation for all ,yet the poor also are stuck with this and their buying power may not actually increase despite the rise in wages.
If prices do not rise,other efficiencies will need to be found including job losses leading to lower tax revenues & increased welfare state costs.
Business profits will decrease also leading to lower tax revenues.
The government really wants inflation & the increased revenues it brings as they are broke & can not admit it.
Governments want you to believe they can suck & blow at the same time.
Its always very nice when governments try to redistribute your money.
^This guy is NOT thinking like an economist. Please review the OP, thank
 

FAST

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There is cause & effect in any situation.
You can not raise a businesses expense without effects.
If prices rise to compensate,taxes paid also rise causing inflation for all ,yet the poor also are stuck with this and their buying power may not actually increase despite the rise in wages.
If prices do not rise,other efficiencies will need to be found including job losses leading to lower tax revenues & increased welfare state costs.
Business profits will decrease also leading to lower tax revenues.
The government really wants inflation & the increased revenues it brings as they are broke & can not admit it.
Governments want you to believe they can suck & blow at the same time.
Its always very nice when governments try to redistribute your money.
Well done.

And who ever said economics was moral,... well I guess those who feel they are some how isolated from real world economics,... or believe they are at least,... or a civil servant living on a gold plated pension plan,... or some one who believes that socialism works in a non socialist country.
 

Big Sleazy

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Anybody that couldn't see what an increase in the minimum wage would have on an employers balance sheet is an idiot. It's simple arithmetic. But Governments and some terbites can't do arithmetic. It's a sad state of affairs when people making monetary and fiscal policy. And people that have the right to vote in elections can't do arithmetic.

We should make grade 6 Math a prerequisite to holding public office and for anyone wanting to vote in an election.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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There was a really smart economist prof who went on CityTV and said every time in history when minimum wage was raised there was massive opposition, and every time everything worked out okay.

I think everything will work itself out.
Adam Smith,

Laissez-faire
 

FAST

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There was a really smart economist prof who went on CityTV and said every time in history when minimum wage was raised there was massive opposition, and every time everything worked out okay.

I think everything will work itself out.
Adam Smith,

Laissez-faire
At best,... "working out OK",... would eventually be no actual change in the minimum wage earners standard of living,... at worst,... a lower standard of living.
 

rhuarc29

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If all of this is about income distribution, then we should debate that directly.
YESSSS

That is the problem. With minimum wage increases, you're stealing from the middle class to give to the poor, rather than trying to achieve a more equitable income distribution.
Fairness to me doesn't mean giving everyone X amount of dollars per hour no matter what their contribution is. Fairness to me is people earning what they deserve. That's a principle I'll always stand by.
 

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What about that "guarantee income" that is being plan by the Ontario Liberals? Then we really didn't need to raise the min. wage.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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At best,... "working out OK",... would eventually be no actual change in the minimum wage earners standard of living,... at worst,... a lower standard of living
You know what.......I've thought about this a lot.........I'm not so sure its the end of the world just yet.
Maybe a bump in pay for the low-wage workers isnt such a bad thing.
And thats coming from a hardcore right-winger like me.

We'll see where it all goes.

Cheers!!!
 

jcpro

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The employers will find a way to adjust, especially in today's Ontario where consumer service expectations are extra low. They will, of course, "adjust" on the backs of their employees. That's how it's done, apparently our political masters don't know how that works.
 

FAST

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You know what.......I've thought about this a lot.........I'm not so sure its the end of the world just yet.
Maybe a bump in pay for the low-wage workers isnt such a bad thing.
And thats coming from a hardcore right-winger like me.

We'll see where it all goes.

Cheers!!!
Pretty much agree,... but my problem is with a government who "thinks",... they can legislate a life style.

Just how far do they take this,... will a minimum wage sufficient to raise a family be the next,... ???
 

Big Sleazy

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Government should be involved in two things. Cleaning the roads and picking up garbage. After that F&*CK O%F.
 

bluecolt

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Because this raise came through legislation and affected every employer equally, no one's competitive position was damaged. This increase has been in the works for well over a year, and has been thoroughly and widely publicized from the get-go. No business manager has any excuse for being flatfooted without a sensible plan for dealing with it calmly, effectively and without disruption. Not to mention without negative publicity that reflects badly on their continent-wide brand. The current Timmies brouhaha makes it clear that mere ownership ≠ competence in management.

But like the work of brewing coffee and selling it, management is real-world, not the moral philosophy economists deal with.
Spoken like a true economist who has never had to meet a payroll or run a business.
 

bluecolt

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Pretty much agree,... but my problem is with a government who "thinks",... they can legislate a life style.

Just how far do they take this,... will a minimum wage sufficient to raise a family be the next,... ???
That is exactly what Liberals and NDP want to do. They will even listen to PETA and their proposal to tax meat products. They will also push the transgender and gay lifestyle and eventually ban the Christian and family way of life. In fact, there are many lefties on this site who already push that agenda on this, a heterosexual escort review website.
 

FAST

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Spoken like a true economist who has never had to meet a payroll or run a business.
Or even understands that some employers are affected far more that others,... but hey,... everybody is a pro,... while siting in the stands.
 

nottyboi

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At best,... "working out OK",... would eventually be no actual change in the minimum wage earners standard of living,... at worst,... a lower standard of living.
How do you equate a 25% raise with no change in standard of living? So should we then all reject raises?
 

nottyboi

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Pretty much agree,... but my problem is with a government who "thinks",... they can legislate a life style.

Just how far do they take this,... will a minimum wage sufficient to raise a family be the next,... ???
The govt CAN influence quality if life that is without a doubt. The CAN transfer wealth though taxation, what the long term effects on the economy are debatable. This is also partly a corporate tax, some of that raise (at least 25=30%) will end up in govt coffers.
 
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