Steve Jobs releases a statement about Apple’s thoughts on Flash.
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
Thoughts on Flash . . .
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The iPhone is the most control freak oriented platform ever invented. It makes the old Radio Shack TRS-80's: "You shall not touch the hardware" look open. PCs work because they are open. They are general purpose computers. Video games, iPhones, and other closed platforms work because they do a single sufficiently well they are purchased in large numbers.
As long as Apple can maintain sufficient market share that other people will cater to it's whims, then Steve Jobs can get away with this. After that, your iPhone becomes an iDud or an iBrick.
As long as Apple can maintain sufficient market share that other people will cater to it's whims, then Steve Jobs can get away with this. After that, your iPhone becomes an iDud or an iBrick.
There's lots about the issue I don't follow, but anything that slows, stalls or stops Flash 'enhancement' of websites and theirt content is OK in my book. I loathe sites that make yoiu wait while loading some amateur filmmaker's masterwork that turns out to be no more than an animated tiltle with objectionable music. I hate the pop-ups that tell me the video content requires the latest version of Flash, but when I just D/L the vid it plays fine. In both cases, like guns don't kill people, it's the criminally stupid Flash implementers that are to blame. I thought when Adobe acquired Flash things would get better. How wrong I was.
That's why I have various Flash-blockers installed on every browser I use.
That's why I have various Flash-blockers installed on every browser I use.
I think the real issue is that Adobe is pushing it's popular proprietary technology and Apple thinks there are better open technologies that can be used. It's a bit of the pot calling the kettle as Jobs mentions as Apple has it's fair share of proprietary technology.
As websites (like youtube) make the switch, and as the iPad sells millions of units, Adobe will need another strategy.
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As websites (like youtube) make the switch, and as the iPad sells millions of units, Adobe will need another strategy.
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Hey blackrock, I just deleted that iCal reminder I had about our little debate on flash showing up on the iPhone.
Or better yet! Read the statement about flash in flash.
http://topherchris.com/post/558594718
Such a superb experience! *chuckle*
One of the points that resonated with me was the following: "Even if iPhones, iPods and iPads ran Flash, it would not solve the problem that most Flash websites need to be rewritten to support touch-based devices."
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Another interesting point that Jobs makes is the following: “It is not Adobe’s goal to help developers write the best iPhone, iPod and iPad apps. It is their goal to help developers write cross platform apps. And Adobe has been painfully slow to adopt enhancements to Apple’s platforms." -Sounds reasonable to me.
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Another interesting point that Jobs makes is the following: “It is not Adobe’s goal to help developers write the best iPhone, iPod and iPad apps. It is their goal to help developers write cross platform apps. And Adobe has been painfully slow to adopt enhancements to Apple’s platforms." -Sounds reasonable to me.
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April 30, 2010
Battle Between Apple, Adobe Continues . . .
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4173398/battle-between-apple-adobe-continues/?playlist_id=87185
Battle Between Apple, Adobe Continues . . .
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4173398/battle-between-apple-adobe-continues/?playlist_id=87185
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Given that a large Adobe revenue source is creative content generation on the Mac platform you'd think that Adobe would find a way to work with Steve.....
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Adobe.... duck....
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Head of Microsoft's Internet Explorer says HTML5 is the 'future'
By Katie Marsal
Published: 10:15 AM EST
Following Apple co-founder Steve Jobs' comments this week predicting Adobe Flash will fall to open standards like HTML5, the general manager of Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser agreed and said HTML5 is "the future of the Web."
Dean Hachamovitch, general manager for Microsoft's Internet Explorer team, indirectly referenced the conflict between Jobs and Adobe on Thursday, when he wrote on the IEBlog about support for HTML5 in Internet Explorer. He noted that the forthcoming IE9 will support hardware acceleration with H.264-encoded HTML5 video playback in Windows 7.
"The future of the web is HTML5. Microsoft is deeply engaged in the HTML5 process with the W3C," Hachamovitch wrote. "HTML5 will be very important in advancing rich, interactive web applications and site design. The HTML5 specification describes video support without specifying a particular video format. We think H.264 is an excellent format. In its HTML5 support, IE9 will support playback of H.264 video only."
Apple played a prominent role in the growth of the MPEG H.264 video codec by making it the standard for compression in iTunes. Now an industry standard, H.264 has broad hardware support, which allows users to easily film video, put it on the Web, and have it play on any operating system or device, Hachamovitch noted.
The IE general manager also acknowledged that most video on the Web today is based on Adobe Flash, and using a browser without Flash is difficult. But he also admitted that Flash has "issues."
"While video may be available in other formats, the ease of accessing video using just a browser on a particular website without using Flash is a challenge for typical consumers," he wrote. "Flash does have some issues, particularly around reliability, security and performance. We work closely with engineers at Adobe, sharing information about the issues we know of in ongoing technical discussions. Despite these issues, Flash remains an important part of delivering a good consumer experience on today's web."
While Hachamovitch's comments did not specifically acknowledge it, they came just hours after Apple's Jobs publicly slammed Flash, suggesting the Web format was created for the "PC era," while the world is currently moving to the "mobile era." Jobs said that Flash is prone to cause crashes, hurts battery life on mobile devices, and is not designed for touch screens.
Later Thursday, Adobe's CEO fired back, suggesting that most crashes of Flash in OS X are not related to his software, but instead are the fault of Apple's operating system. Shantanu Narayen said that his company and Apple have different views of the world, and Adobe believes the future is multi-platform. He said Flash allows developers to write software and provide video in one format and have it accessible on a range of devices, while Apple's App Store is restricted to the iPhone OS ecosystem.
Microsoft's comments indicate that it, like Apple, is placing the majority of its browser support for streaming video behind HTML5. Apple has banned Flash from its iPhone OS-powered line of devices, including the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. Users with that hardware can watch streaming video with HTML5 or through software available on the App Store.
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Head of Microsoft's Internet Explorer says HTML5 is the 'future'
By Katie Marsal
Published: 10:15 AM EST
Following Apple co-founder Steve Jobs' comments this week predicting Adobe Flash will fall to open standards like HTML5, the general manager of Microsoft's Internet Explorer browser agreed and said HTML5 is "the future of the Web."
Dean Hachamovitch, general manager for Microsoft's Internet Explorer team, indirectly referenced the conflict between Jobs and Adobe on Thursday, when he wrote on the IEBlog about support for HTML5 in Internet Explorer. He noted that the forthcoming IE9 will support hardware acceleration with H.264-encoded HTML5 video playback in Windows 7.
"The future of the web is HTML5. Microsoft is deeply engaged in the HTML5 process with the W3C," Hachamovitch wrote. "HTML5 will be very important in advancing rich, interactive web applications and site design. The HTML5 specification describes video support without specifying a particular video format. We think H.264 is an excellent format. In its HTML5 support, IE9 will support playback of H.264 video only."
Apple played a prominent role in the growth of the MPEG H.264 video codec by making it the standard for compression in iTunes. Now an industry standard, H.264 has broad hardware support, which allows users to easily film video, put it on the Web, and have it play on any operating system or device, Hachamovitch noted.
The IE general manager also acknowledged that most video on the Web today is based on Adobe Flash, and using a browser without Flash is difficult. But he also admitted that Flash has "issues."
"While video may be available in other formats, the ease of accessing video using just a browser on a particular website without using Flash is a challenge for typical consumers," he wrote. "Flash does have some issues, particularly around reliability, security and performance. We work closely with engineers at Adobe, sharing information about the issues we know of in ongoing technical discussions. Despite these issues, Flash remains an important part of delivering a good consumer experience on today's web."
While Hachamovitch's comments did not specifically acknowledge it, they came just hours after Apple's Jobs publicly slammed Flash, suggesting the Web format was created for the "PC era," while the world is currently moving to the "mobile era." Jobs said that Flash is prone to cause crashes, hurts battery life on mobile devices, and is not designed for touch screens.
Later Thursday, Adobe's CEO fired back, suggesting that most crashes of Flash in OS X are not related to his software, but instead are the fault of Apple's operating system. Shantanu Narayen said that his company and Apple have different views of the world, and Adobe believes the future is multi-platform. He said Flash allows developers to write software and provide video in one format and have it accessible on a range of devices, while Apple's App Store is restricted to the iPhone OS ecosystem.
Microsoft's comments indicate that it, like Apple, is placing the majority of its browser support for streaming video behind HTML5. Apple has banned Flash from its iPhone OS-powered line of devices, including the iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. Users with that hardware can watch streaming video with HTML5 or through software available on the App Store.
Browsers like FireFox, Chrome, and Safari (of course) are heavily behind HTML5. With Apple said 'no' to Flash on iPhoneOS and now even MS is not in favor of it - Adobe is owned for online interactive contents development? When everyone can do what Flash does with HTML5 (actually it is HTML/JS/AJAX/CSS combo) who wants to pay for and to use proprietary Adobe stuffs?
I hope they will keep making Creative Suites and Lightroom, though
I hope they will keep making Creative Suites and Lightroom, though
