to all the Chilean soccer fans

dcbogey

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Grow up and get out! I admit the Argentians were diving all over the place but if that's the game they want to play, adapt or die.
 

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dcbogey said:
Grow up and get out! I admit the Argentians were diving all over the place but if that's the game they want to play, adapt or die.
can't always depend on the ref, like you said adjust to the game or take the game to them. The Americans started diving when the Uruguayans were doing it so Chile could of done the same.
 

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I am not sure what all the fuss is about.

I was at the game. Argentina played better over all - and won the game.
You win in soccer by scoring goals, not by puring your frustrations on the ref.

And no - I am not an Argentina fan. Just like the game of soccer.
 

dcbogey

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I am not a fan but I do enjoy a well played game. If soccer is to make a break-through in NA, there will need to be a fix for all the diving. Canadian fans, weened on the "code" of hockey will never accept that part of the "great game".
 

eric42

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The cops did the right thing. Keep all the shit that happens in Europe out of here. I'm sick of hearing about all these idiots who get all worked up over such a boring game.
 

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What's even more stupid the Argentinian president says it was unacceptable what the police did to the team but she has no idea what started it and to what extent the players were acting. I just can't see the Toronto police deciding to taser and punch players, as they claim, for no reason. Hard to believe the players were angels and did nothing to instigate this and it's all the police fault for attacking the players. Give me a break. Not only do they dive in games and fake it, they fake it off the field as well. :rolleyes:
 

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dcbogey said:
Grow up and get out!
Fuckin A!

On the news they showed a protestor in Chile with a sign accusing Canada of being racist! What sort of bullshit is that? The Chilean news reports are absolute bullshit - blame Canada for your team's loss.

This is why I hate soccer - I agree with Bob McCown (I wonder why you usually see barbed wire around the field in south american and euro countries with police in riot gear)– “beautiful game”? yeah right! Boring game, diving everywhere, no class … the Chilean team are a bunch of punks and poor losers – they lose, so they want to beat up the ref and take it out on the police… passion? – bullshit! More like a bunch of thugs. The Toronto Police Department acted correctly. Fuck soccer when we have hockey.
 

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The only reason soccer is so popular in all these countries and not in North America is because we have other professional sports. Who is going to watch soccer when we have hockey, basketball, baseball and football ??? The only sport these countries have is soccer !!
 

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Yea fuck soccer!! *grumble grumble grumble*

carguy34 said:
The only reason soccer is so popular in all these countries and not in North America is because we have other professional sports. Who is going to watch soccer when we have hockey, basketball, baseball and football ??? The only sport these countries have is soccer !!
Yea, that's like saying Canada only has hockey.

So why is soccer so popular in England, Germany, Spain, Brazil, shall I go on?
 

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I guarantee these kids (under 21) have been treated like Gods in their own country as they made the national team. They are probably told ever day how great they are, because it is a soccer mad country. Undoubtedly this leads to behavior problems (arrogant spoiled brats).
When they lost to Argentina, they felt like the world was against them and acted like children who had their toy taken away.
1. Shame on the Chilean officials for not instilling the ideas of sportsmanship and properly representing your country in an appropriate manner while in an international tournament
2. Shame on the players for thinking they are special & above the law (our laws)
If you want to come into beautiful and very hospitable country, respect our laws and our police officers, other wise get the fuck out and do not come back. Try that shit in Georgia & you might get shot, try that in Russia, Iran or China & you might just disappear
3. Shame on their president for criticizing Canada prior to getting all the facts. What a idiot.

Soccer can be a great game to play or watch (a little slow for me most of the time, not enough scoring), however this incident highlights everything that is wrong with this game.
 

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I am not a fan of soccer but I play it.

I am not a hockey fan but I play it. The same goes for Basketball, Baseball and Lacrosse.

In all of these sports, things can get heated because competetiveness gets the better of us or the spectators.

I am not condoning the behaviour of any of the Chilean players. However, I also don't agree with coming to a conclusion on their actions without really getting all the facts. We weren't there. There are alot of accussations being thrown around.

Yes, surely there were some players who are shit disturbers but that is no different than seeing how some parents act at their kids hockey game. I wonder if the police would use the same force to subdue aggressive parents at these games.
 

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The only reason soccer is so popular in all these countries and not in North America is because we have other professional sports. Who is going to watch soccer when we have hockey, basketball, baseball and football ??? The only sport these countries have is soccer !!

I'm dissapointed with the behaviour of the Chilean players, but anyone who suggests that Chile is a third world nation is showing off their ignorance.
 

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David Beckham 23 said:
Yea fuck soccer!! *grumble grumble grumble*



Yea, that's like saying Canada only has hockey.

So why is soccer so popular in England, Germany, Spain, Brazil, shall I go on?
Believe it or not soccer is the most played sport in Canada. It just doesn't get the support from a viewer perspective, although attendance at Toronto FC games have been to capacity.
 

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" if you want to take a swing at someone, big or small you have AUTOMATICALLY consented to having your ass kicked"

I couldn't agree more. don't pick a fight unless you're willing to go all the way.
 

Von Wigglestaff

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I disagree. Soccer is tribalism, pure and simple.

National/regional "we" (our tribe) versus "them" (our enemy) war mentality played out with a ball.
Don't put my name to someone else's ignorant opinion.

I'm not defending what the Chilean players did and they don't have a case in filing an official complaint to the Canadian government. All sports is tribalism, soccer isn't any different, have you been to a football game in Buffalo lately. I've stopped going to Orchard Park, drunken yokels picking fights can get very tiresome.
 

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I watched the game. I only blame the Chilean's for what happend after the game with our cities finest.

The ref was horrible, pure horrible. I didnt really care who won, just wanted to see some nice soccer. Dive here and I dive there, turned the game into who can act like a fish out of water the best.

I just dont understand some of the these refs. Dont they get it? Dont they go back and review the fouls to see if the got duped? I would. Just the fact to better prepare yourself for the 2nd half or the next that specific player hits the ground like he got hit with a 2by4 across the shins.

I think if FIFA wanted to curb or reduce the type of altercations thay may happen with refs and disgruntled teams, is they have to come down hard on diving. Perhaps even ZERO tolerance on diving. If the ref suspects someone of diving, and they must know who are repeat offenders, start handing out yellow cards like they are a party favour. It would improve the game dramatically. Just like in hockey the 1st couple of years may be a transition period, but it would be better for the long run.

To quote Italy's Cristian Vieri after the 2002 WC, when they side ref kept calling offside, offside, offside 50 times when they lost to South Korea...."where do they get these referees? The village?" Pure and simple, this is FIFFA, not some backyard rec league. FIFFA needs to improve the ref side of the sports.

Just food for thought.....if you think 20 Canadian fans to went to go watch a soccer game ... to say Mexico, and got into a scuffle with their corrupt and pure barbaric police force, that they would see the light of day for weeks? Can you imagine the trauma that those canadians would be subjected too? So I dont see what the big deal was. The Chilean babies figured that they were above the law because some blind ref cost them the game. Good for the cops. If I were one of those cops and one of them took a strike at me, boom!!! right across the back with Betsy the billyclub. Senior Chilean Team officials would get 2.
 

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Mr.420 said:
To quote Italy's Cristian Vieri after the 2002 WC, when they side ref kept calling offside, offside, offside 50 times when they lost to South Korea...."where do they get these referees? The village?" Pure and simple, this is FIFFA, not some backyard rec league. FIFFA needs to improve the ref side of the sports.
LMAO!!!!!

The great Byron Moreno rears his corrupt head once more. A year later he was suspended by FIFA for allocating 30 minutes of injury time to an Ecuadorian league game. As soon as the home team scored the winning goal, he blew the whistle.
 
I couldn't agree more with the previous comments. In all this discussion I have yet to hear about the main protagonist - Wolfgang Stark. I don't pretend to understand the fine points of the game but any time you dress an arrogant German up in funny shorts and give him a deck of playing cards, the shit is bound to hit the fan. Why did this gentleman feel that it was necessary to inject his personality into the game? Why could he not let the players decide the outcome given that even a yellow card has a serious outcome in a semi-final, let alone a red one? The impudence of this man was unbearable! The expression on his face in delivering the card, the rigid backbone, the square jaw alone would have been sufficient for a severe ass-kicking by the ladies auxiliary.

Point #2. Soccer is a tough man's sport undoubtedly but this comment is disputable when considering all the diving. It becomes a sham when grown men, athletes to the one show no sportsmanship and roll about on the ground like little girlymen. I would be embarrassed to have my son act in a similar fashion! You don’t kick shins and pull on shorts like a bunch of pussies – you use those well-toned thigh muscles and kick Billy Bob in the nuts hard enough that it looks like he has a pair of soccer balls between his legs next go round. If you are going for a game suspension then make it mean something.

Point #3. Once the windows were broken in the bus and the Chilean players were beginning to riot, is it not possible that the police mistook the group for another gang of street punks on a Saturday night swarming in downtown Toronto. You behave like thugs you get treated like thugs and like total soccer sissies you have the leader of your nation intervene because Canada gave you a red card for being lousy sports. We never did score a goal but then again not one of our players would take a dive. They may have lost but they had their dignity in tact. Fuck soccer.
 
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