who will be the new Mayor in 2010, a new guy by the name of Rocco Rossi is putting his name forward.
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He's had an interesting life as shown in this profile.
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/580453
Campaigners and fundraisers are better behind the scene, will he be another Stephen LeDrew?
http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/580453
Campaigners and fundraisers are better behind the scene, will he be another Stephen LeDrew?
interesting idea, the problem is he does not have a background in Toronto politics. Normally I would say that is a good thing, the problem here is that the usual suspects on the left side of council can just gang up and out vote him if he does not spend oops I mean vote the way they want. The right side of council is to fragmented by ego's and idiots to form a power base.
The article in the SUn today mentioned that Rod Ford is considering running, now that would be fun to watch, although I can't see him winning unless all of Etobicoke turns out to vote for him,........
The article in the SUn today mentioned that Rod Ford is considering running, now that would be fun to watch, although I can't see him winning unless all of Etobicoke turns out to vote for him,........
Who do we have so far? Let's assume we've got Smitherman, Rossi, and Tory as the contenders and a few political zeroes (35, in 2006) rounding out the ballot.
How do the ballots split? Do the left-wing Toronto voters split between Rossi and Smitherman and give Tory a chance to come up on the right? Do we get an NDP candidate to come forward?
It used to be that political affiliation didn't matter in municipal politics, but I think those days are ending.
How do the ballots split? Do the left-wing Toronto voters split between Rossi and Smitherman and give Tory a chance to come up on the right? Do we get an NDP candidate to come forward?
It used to be that political affiliation didn't matter in municipal politics, but I think those days are ending.
Rossi will go nowhere.
He has no charisma....looks like a dweeb....cannot attract the ladies vote....won't attract the gay vote....has not managed a large scale enterprise....etc etc...
HE'S DONE ALREADY
- probably is hoping to insert himself in some high level beurocratic job after the dust settles.....
he'll 'throw' his support to the eventual winner at election time..and voila.....JOB SECURED!!
Nice move really!!
He has no charisma....looks like a dweeb....cannot attract the ladies vote....won't attract the gay vote....has not managed a large scale enterprise....etc etc...
HE'S DONE ALREADY
- probably is hoping to insert himself in some high level beurocratic job after the dust settles.....
he'll 'throw' his support to the eventual winner at election time..and voila.....JOB SECURED!!
Nice move really!!
Rob Ford would be interesting to watch that's for sure, he'd get many a vote I think
he run on reducing Toronto taxes, I'd vote for him if he'd reduce the number of councillors to 10-12. Oh ya I live outside the city I cannot vote in Toronto
he run on reducing Toronto taxes, I'd vote for him if he'd reduce the number of councillors to 10-12. Oh ya I live outside the city I cannot vote in Toronto
Actually I think this could be a nefarious scheme from Bob Rea and co, The liberal vote in toronto has been leaking to the NDP for years now. The next city budget is going to drive people nuts and it just might slap MR Smitherman in a place he does not like , given that everybody will be standing around looking for somebody to blame and he was in a government when that horrible HST was introduced on top of all the Toronto specific King Miller needs money taxes. He could be the target of choice.
Look for a lot of Liberal MP's who are nervous about their seats to come out in support of him , " As a voice of reason ".
Tory's name will cost him votes in Toronto, but he will win in the burbs, but will he get enough votes to be mayor. Assuming he runs after a good look he might decide he can't afford the Tylinol and antacids that will be required.
If he does run though there could be a split between tory and smitherman that would allow somebody with name backing to run up the middle.
Mamolitti and Ford are interesting trivia questions but not serious candidates.
Even though Tory is a three time loser he finally has name recognition and isn't affiliated with the right or left. So far, I think he'll come up the middle and become our boring dull Eggleton of the next decade where no ideas get expressed.
Me, I'd like to see Adam Vaughn or Joe Mihevc win but they're smart enough to know they wouldn't have a chance.
Me, I'd like to see Adam Vaughn or Joe Mihevc win but they're smart enough to know they wouldn't have a chance.
The system needs revamping in Toronto, I say the top 11 vote getters run the city with the top one being the mayor why this, lets be honest the guy in Scarborough doesn't give 2 cents about Etobicoke or vice versa so lets run the city as if everyone belonged and get this done.
On the other hand, I know several people who have worked with Rossi and they will all tell you that he's as sharp as a tack, level headed, and sees the big picture.
I've heard good things about him and would vote for him before I voted for Smitherman. To me, Smitherman is just another David Miller. (He's only slightly to the right of David Miller - like a hair to the right. Smitherman got the hell out of the provincial gig before he got tarred with the E-health fiasco (and believe me, it is a fiasco). How it hasn't managed to stick to Smitherman yet is a miracle. It's a pretty sad day when Ontario voters can look past a billion plus taxpayer's dollars going down the drain.
Rossi was head of the Canadian Heart and Stroke Foundation which has over 20,000 employees I believe. So you wouldn't call that a large scale enterprise??
Rossi may not be a well known name, but trust me, he is very well known in the circles of power.
Where do you get that figure? I find reference to 500 employees in 85 regional offices - a far cry from 20 000.
I'm glad I'm not the only who is so shallow to immediately judge this guy on his goofy looks.
It's because we have constituents who make dumb snap judgments as illustrated in this thread that we have people in office presently who are inept and far from ideal people in office.
My uncle presently works for the City. I've been to parties where I've mingled with his co-workers. A few things that have come out of these dealings are as follows:
(1) The City has no accountability. Deadlines are not made unless they are provincially legislated. Otherwise the City operates on a "we'll get to it when we can" manner.
(2) The City's hiring practices are abysmal. There is blatant nepotism in their hiring practices which is widely known amongst City Staff. A few people have been made examples (e.g, ex-employee Carnevale) of yet this is something that is widespread especially for staff hired outside of Toronto City Hall.
(3) Seniority rules that were maintained as per the City's new Collective Bargaining Agreement which provides a formula whereby the most senior person is favored as opposed to the best candidate. In fairness, the current negotiators were trying to abolish this but the union prevailed.
(4) Numerous instances of fraud. Not only the Computer Leasing scandal which was highly publicized but other less publicized instances whereby the perpetrators were not brought to justice for their wrongdoing.
In addition, I have not mentioned the more grave concerns. Such as the state of the City's finances and the labour negotiations this summer which made us, the constituents of Toronto, the real victims.
Rocco Rossi may appear nerdy but he has credentials, integrity and passion to "right" many of those wrongs. I'm waiting to see whom the other candidates will be to make an informed decision but my vote will be for the best candidate. I love Toronto very much and wouldn't have it any other way. I appeal to you to do the same for the greater good - the well being of our wonderful City.
My uncle presently works for the City. I've been to parties where I've mingled with his co-workers. A few things that have come out of these dealings are as follows:
(1) The City has no accountability. Deadlines are not made unless they are provincially legislated. Otherwise the City operates on a "we'll get to it when we can" manner.
(2) The City's hiring practices are abysmal. There is blatant nepotism in their hiring practices which is widely known amongst City Staff. A few people have been made examples (e.g, ex-employee Carnevale) of yet this is something that is widespread especially for staff hired outside of Toronto City Hall.
(3) Seniority rules that were maintained as per the City's new Collective Bargaining Agreement which provides a formula whereby the most senior person is favored as opposed to the best candidate. In fairness, the current negotiators were trying to abolish this but the union prevailed.
(4) Numerous instances of fraud. Not only the Computer Leasing scandal which was highly publicized but other less publicized instances whereby the perpetrators were not brought to justice for their wrongdoing.
In addition, I have not mentioned the more grave concerns. Such as the state of the City's finances and the labour negotiations this summer which made us, the constituents of Toronto, the real victims.
Rocco Rossi may appear nerdy but he has credentials, integrity and passion to "right" many of those wrongs. I'm waiting to see whom the other candidates will be to make an informed decision but my vote will be for the best candidate. I love Toronto very much and wouldn't have it any other way. I appeal to you to do the same for the greater good - the well being of our wonderful City.
The same Layton-Chow combination that bilked taxpayers for subsidized housing back in 89-90 (or there-abouts) when then were pulling in over $120 G combined?
Oh ya... THAT Jack Layton/ Olivia Chow!
don't blame the city for poor negotiations this past summer they did what they had to do and that's grandfather the sick days, if they didn't the public was already up in arms about their garbage piling up. One thing I don't understand is I have heard there are 7000 more hired employees since all the cities came together why?
Because they could.
One of the things about a buerocracy is that it exists to serve itself. Low level leaders? try to collect all the prestige and control they can to make themselves more promotable. One of the measures is how many people report to you, get enough people reporting to you and you are now not only promotable you are now indespensable, I mean how do you fire or lay off somebnody who has all those people reporting to him/her. Its an iron law of the beurocracy.
Interesting side note of all the higher lever folks in duplicated jobs ie., the jobs that were supposed to be combined into 1 when amalgamated only one was cut. He was the most reviled person on staff everybody hated him. He went to a neihboring communittee and help destroy their permits section
Federal Liberals have already distanced themselves from Rossi and chastised him for using Liberal resources to begin his campaign and solicit funds.
Talk about putting an obstacle in his own path.
Talk about putting an obstacle in his own path.
