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Trump cuts off Ukraine at knees, We negotiate peace. then you do what we say.

kherg007

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Good ol' unilateral surrender Don is at it again...
 
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Poland's president reacts to Trump's claim Ukraine 'may be Russian someday'

Puts an evil spin on Canada may or may not be the 51st state someday.
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Everyone knew this was going to happen.
It is what happens when you put your trust in the US.
Backstabbers.
Maybe the silver lining for Ukraine is getting rid of territory that was pro-Russia and full of traitors anyway.
 

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A far cry from his subservience to Netanyahu
and Israel.
Debunked a dozen times.

The conversation always seems to stop when I ask which country in the middle east is a greater ally to the US than Israel. And please list those things to support your (false) claim. Otherwise you should stop posting this trope.
 
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shack

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Then, Trump demands payment for the surrender in the form of Ukraine’s rare earth minerals. Trump and Putin are showing themselves to be two sides of the same coin. I cannot see how Zelensky can accept such a peace so the war will go on.
If the US, AKA trump, decreases it's military support to Ukraine, the only way the war continues is by Europe upping it's game.
 

boobtoucher

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Debunked a dozen times.

The conversation always seems to stop when I ask which country in the middle east is a greater ally to the US than Israel. And please list those things to support your (false) claim. Otherwise you should stop posting this trope.
I mean, Saudi gave $2billion to the trumps, and have also paid the McMahons a bunch. Based on how trump picks his "friends", I'd say it's the Sauds.
 
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richaceg

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US sent a total of 65 billion $$$ to Ukraine since the war... which would Americans support? stop the war or fund it?
 

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Did Russia win? Did Ukraine win?
No, they both lost thousands of their people

its really eye opening to see the lefties so opposed to the end of war.
it appears they have strayed from their so called roots

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I mean, Saudi gave $2billion to the trumps, and have also paid the McMahons a bunch. Based on how trump picks his "friends", I'd say it's the Sauds.
I don't understand. Please explain.

If the Saudis gave trump 2 billion, then why is he still supporting Israel? What are the Saudis getting for their 2 billion.

Giving trump 2 billion helps trump but does not protect American interests. trump has been prez for only a few weeks yet the US has supported Israel for 70 years. Why is that American policy.

Like I said, I don't understand what your point is. Maybe there's some sarcasm I'm missing.
 

shack

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Did Russia win? Did Ukraine win?

its really eye opening to see the lefties so opposed to the end of war.
The main point is that the left is opposed to Russia winning. If they have to keep fighting, it weakens Russia.
 

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I don't understand. Please explain.

If the Saudis gave trump 2 billion, then why is he still supporting Israel? What are the Saudis getting for their 2 billion.
They were buying protection for MBS.


Trump is only in this for himself. He has no morals, no guiding principals, no actual plan.

He functions on two core objectives: "How can I/my family get richer?" and "How can I avoid punishment for all of the illegal shit I do"

There may be a third "how can I install my family as a Kim-family-style dynasty" but I don't know if he's got the capacity for that still.

So: The saudis needed protection last term and bought it. Now Israel is buying protection. I don't think even the most rabid trump supporters can thing that occupying Gaza and defending it forever is in the US's best interest in any way, especially if they have to commit a genocide to do it.
 

boobtoucher

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The main point is that the left is opposed to Russia winning. If they have to keep fighting, it weakens Russia.
If Russia is dashing itself against the rocks of Ukraine's defenders, its fewer orks and tanks that can roll into Canada.

Russia has been a net negative on global stability, and supports conservative/right wing politicians all over the world. The fall of Putin means a more progressive world. Keep arming Ukraine. It means my family is less likely to get drafted into a future conflict.
 

shack

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They were buying protection for MBS.


Trump is only in this for himself. He has no morals, no guiding principals, no actual plan.

He functions on two core objectives: "How can I/my family get richer?" and "How can I avoid punishment for all of the illegal shit I do"

There may be a third "how can I install my family as a Kim-family-style dynasty" but I don't know if he's got the capacity for that still.

So: The saudis needed protection last term and bought it. Now Israel is buying protection. I don't think even the most rabid trump supporters can thing that occupying Gaza and defending it forever is in the US's best interest in any way, especially if they have to commit a genocide to do it.
Ok. I understand what you're saying. Thanks.

That's not really what OAG and I were discussing as far as friends/allies.
 
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