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jalimon

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The orange bully ass hole in chief fired the government chief of staff of Statistics over weak job creation numbers.

We are not yet at the level where they fall out of 4th-story window. But it will come.
 
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I love the way he keeps saying the tariffs are bringing in trillions of dollars and nobody challenges him. Or drug prices will fall by 1000%. Or his uncle taught the Unibomber. Or the Epstein issue is a hoax. Or Biden stole the 2020 election and Jan 6 was a love in. YET many Terb Trumptards still worship him!
 

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I love the way he keeps saying the tariffs are bringing in trillions of dollars and nobody challenges him. Or drug prices will fall by 1000%. Or his uncle taught the Unibomber. Or the Epstein issue is a hoax. Or Biden stole the 2020 election and Jan 6 was a love in. YET many Terb Trumptards still worship him!
....Or that he can breathe under water.
 

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I love the way he keeps saying the tariffs are bringing in trillions of dollars and nobody challenges him.
Well, the first lie about tariffs is he keeps repeating that other countries will pay tariffs.
Nobody challenges and clarifies that it is the American importer and consumer that pays it and it has now become the way tariffs are referred to.
It is an insult to anyone's intelligence.
 

jalimon

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Of course it makes perfect sense.
Job numbers don't look good?
Fire the numbers guy instead of doing anything about it and hire a guy who will lie about it. Problem solved!
How can anyone trust any numbers coming out of the government after that? All data will be questionable. I know that at one time in my life, I would have said, 'Hey, the boss wants these numbers; let's give them to him.' I am not losing my job over this. And I know a shit load of other people are just like me.
 

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I love the way he keeps saying the tariffs are bringing in trillions of dollars and nobody challenges him. Or drug prices will fall by 1000%. Or his uncle taught the Unibomber. Or the Epstein issue is a hoax. Or Biden stole the 2020 election and Jan 6 was a love in. YET many Terb Trumptards still worship him!
But he did end 6 wars and build a wall.

The youth love him.

 

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How can anyone trust any numbers coming out of the government after that? All data will be questionable. I know that at one time in my life, I would have said, 'Hey, the boss wants these numbers; let's give them to him.' I am not losing my job over this. And I know a shit load of other people are just like me.
Maybe their next election will work thr same way. Fire the officials and let Trump do the estimating
 
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K Douglas

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Revising past numbers by that much and in one direction are largely unprecedented. So either she's leading an incompetent group or they are playing with the numbers for a political purpose.
 

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Revising past numbers by that much and in one direction are largely unprecedented. So either she's leading an incompetent group or they are playing with the numbers for a political purpose.
Not unprecedented. They revise numbers as more information comes in. Remember they are compiling numbers from voluntary sources to try to get the best estimate. Then, they get revised continually throughout the year with a final number the February of the following year.

No government, Trump included, whines when they put out good numbers, and they all whine and fudge bad ones. It's part of the game. But the formulas and means stay the same no matter who is there.

Right now tourism is being hit and layoffs are larger than you think. Same in tech. And it's starting to spread.
 

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Revising past numbers by that much and in one direction are largely unprecedented. So either she's leading an incompetent group or they are playing with the numbers for a political purpose.
A career statistician who worked under a few presidents knows less than your fat dictator?
 

K Douglas

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Not unprecedented. They revise numbers as more information comes in. Remember they are compiling numbers from voluntary sources to try to get the best estimate. Then, they get revised continually throughout the year with a final number the February of the following year.

No government, Trump included, whines when they put out good numbers, and they all whine and fudge bad ones. It's part of the game. But the formulas and means stay the same no matter who is there.

Right now tourism is being hit and layoffs are larger than you think. Same in tech. And it's starting to spread.
Revising numbers aren't unprecedented. Revising numbers for multiple months by this much is. Now she's saying its going to happen for a 3rd month in a row (July). Sorry this is incompetence unless there is a plausible explanation as to why the numbers have been so off.
 

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Revising numbers aren't unprecedented. Revising numbers for multiple months by this much is. Now she's saying its going to happen for a 3rd month in a row (July). Sorry this is incompetence unless there is a plausible explanation as to why the numbers have been so off.
I can give one. Late number reportage to them. She is revising numbers for literally last month and the month before. That is not a lot of time. Remember it's not govt employees reporting. It's private businesses. The govt only compiles the information. My SO's HR dept does similar for the Canadian govt. They can fall behind as well. Especially if they are processing a lot of layoffs and or hires. Or experiencing a lot of employee movement.

There is nothing nefarious here. The same things happened to every administration.
 
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The most important thing to understand is that BLS is not directly estimating the number of jobs gained or lost each month. Rather, they are estimating the total number of employees (payroll positions) each month. The job growth/loss numbers are the just the difference between the monthly total estimates.

Between this release for July 2025 and the June 2025 release last month

The estimate for the total number of employees in May fell from 159,577,000 to 159,452,000.

The estimated number of employees in June fell from 159,724,000 to 159,466,000.

Those are revisions of -0.08% for May and -0.16% for June.

The problem with the growth/loss estimates is that even good growth is just a tiny fraction of the total number of jobs. For example, 300,000 jobs is just 0.18% of 159.5 million jobs. It doesn't take a large revision to the total number of jobs to make a huge change in the number of jobs added or lost.
 

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The headline “Trump Fires Labor Statistics Chief” is more than a routine bureaucratic shake-up, it is an overreach of power that borders on illegality. Firing the head of a nonpartisan statistical agency without clear, justified cause not only undermines the integrity of labor data, but also raises serious legal and ethical red flags. These agencies are meant to function independently, free from political interference. When a president removes such an official, it suggests a deliberate attempt to manipulate public perception by silencing inconvenient truths.
Beyond the abuse of power, there are real financial consequences for taxpayers. An unjust termination opens the door to costly legal challenges, severance payouts, and potential compensation packages, all at the expense of the public. This reckless move could cost Americans both in trust and in dollars. Trumps firings can cost millions per case in compensation and legal challenges.
 
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