Trump on Joe Rogan

[Butler1000]

Supposing both the Dems and the GOP are the same, you should default to the one that treats Canada better. During Trump's presidency, he renegotiated NAFTA and got better terms for the US. He has recently stated that he would put 60% tariffs on China and 10% on everyone else, Canada is included in everyone else. He has also stated that he would put a 200% tariff on john dere if they move production to Mexico even though there is a free trade agreement in place with Mexico.

The US is our largest trading partner, without free trade Canada is doomed, my business as many many other Canadian businesses are doomed.

I dont think he is going to put more tariffs on us. I think he will concentrate on China. I think it's just talk. He has to go through Congress in the end. And as for NAFTA weren't you one if the ones crowing it amounted to almost nothing? I know several others did. You should be far more worried about Mexico stealing jobs from here then what Trump will do.

The World, no matter who is in charge down there, is about to get a whole lot worse. So buckle up, because I can promise you both parties will happily screw who ever they have to.

 

[The Oracle]

That they have melted down so hard over this is kind of amazing and really tells you a lot about how they view women and relationships.

Because being duplicitous is a good thing right?

 

[The Oracle]

Supposing both the Dems and the GOP are the same, you should default to the one that treats Canada better. During Trump's presidency, he renegotiated NAFTA and got better terms for the US. He has recently stated that he would put 60% tariffs on China and 10% on everyone else, Canada is included in everyone else. He has also stated that he would put a 200% tariff on john dere if they move production to Mexico even though there is a free trade agreement in place with Mexico.

The US is our largest trading partner, without free trade Canada is doomed, my business as many many other Canadian businesses are doomed.

The United States- Mexico - Canada - Agreement is what you are referring too.

 

[HungSowel]

I dont think he is going to put more tariffs on us. I think he will concentrate on China. I think it's just talk. He has to go through Congress in the end. And as for NAFTA weren't you one if the ones crowing it amounted to almost nothing? I know several others did. You should be far more worried about Mexico stealing jobs from here then what Trump will do.

The World, no matter who is in charge down there, is about to get a whole lot worse. So buckle up, because I can promise you both parties will happily screw who ever they have to.

My view is that Trump is much worse than Kamala, even so, if Trump did not renegotiate NAFTA and Biden renegotiated NAFTA, I would be pro Trump because I care more about the Canadian economy than I do about US politics. If Kamala becomes president and tries to renegotiate USMCA, I would be just as concerned as when Trump renegotiated NAFTA.

Without free trade with the US, this country would turn into a Russia.

 

[Butler1000]

My view is that Trump is much worse than Kamala, even so, if Trump did not renegotiate NAFTA and Biden renegotiated NAFTA, I would be pro Trump because I care more about the Canadian economy than I do about US politics. If Kamala becomes president and tries to renegotiate USMCA, I would be just as concerned as when Trump renegotiated NAFTA.

Without free trade with the US, this country would turn into a Russia.

Kamala Harris and trade: Better than the alternative, but not much | Lowy Institute

Judging by the lack of major policy announcements from the Harris campaign, her administration is likely to largely maintain the Biden trajectory.

www.lowyinstitute.org

Not nearly as good as you think.

Harris and Trump Embrace Tariffs, Though Their Approaches Differ

Both Democrats and Republicans are expressing support for tariffs to protect American industry, reversing decades of trade thinking in Washington.

www.nytimes.com

 

[wigglee]

Clearly not as much as it did you. I'm starting to suspect you have a bit of a phallic obsession.

I'm not the one who loves the orange tard that constantly dances to the Village People and pretends to deep throat the microphone....that would be you dreamin' of Drumpf's tiny pecker.

 

[Frankfooter]

He seems to have it down to an art form. The double-fisted hand jobs during his YMCA dance and now he's showing off his cocksucking skills, I suspect he's been up to dirty deeds and not only the ones on Epstein's island.

There is a new release with 100 hrs of Epstein interviews.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852870544439337091

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1852712021239701653

 

[squeezer]

Kamalalalalala on SNL!!! AWESOME skit! Trump seething he wasn't invited on SNL. LMAO

 

[Valcazar]

My personal life? No. Bets lots if others can say the same.

But it's like the lockdowns. I was very lucky. My household maintained full time employment, experienced no hardship. We were happy together, still had a house, good food to eat, entertainment options, could communicate with loved ones and over didn't even have issues.

But I have friends who did. In various ways. So yes, I can look at situations, say, I'm fine, but my surroundings are not. And I empathize, and in some cases could be their as an ear, or some other help.

So you realized that saying it has no effect on you whatsoever and you believe the same for everyone else and people should stop caring makes you sound like sociopath and are trying to backtrack now?

Fun.

And as for the election. While Jill Stein might use the term "lesser of two evils" to describe the Dems, I wouldn't, they are imo just as bad as the GOP. I know you don't agree, and I don't care really. Feel free to sit at your keyboard being a sanctimonious little man, tut tuting that evil Butler dude.

I'm amused.

No you're not.
But it's ok.
At least that's honest from you. (Well, honest-er.)

Just checking that this means you are now claiming that Jill Stein is the lesser evil people should be voting for, right?
Or are you still pretending you are a revolutionary?

 

[Valcazar]

Because being duplicitous is a good thing right?

Obviously people in a marriage where they are forced to be duplicitous need to think long and hard about that marriage.
But of course, the reaction to the ad isn't about being duplicitous.

 

[The Oracle]

Obviously people in a marriage where they are forced to be duplicitous need to think long and hard about that marriage.
But of course, the reaction to the ad isn't about being duplicitous.

Is this a Kamala Harris word salad?

 

[Butler1000]

So you realized that saying it has no effect on you whatsoever and you believe the same for everyone else and people should stop caring makes you sound like sociopath and are trying to backtrack now?

Fun.



No you're not.
But it's ok.
At least that's honest from you. (Well, honest-er.)

Just checking that this means you are now claiming that Jill Stein is the lesser evil people should be voting for, right?
Or are you still pretending you are a revolutionary?

Lol. Cripes you are obtuse.

I'll try again. If a person suffers a loss, say a death in the family, and maybe they are at best peripheral in my life, I can feel sympathy, but it has no affect on me. Just like it has no affect on you. Right now hundreds are dead in Spain due to flooding, I sympathize, hope the locals can reviver quickly, but again, it has no affect on my life.

It's the nature of things.

Here is one for you. In the aftermath if the 2009 bank bailouts, 500 000 people were foreclosed on. Obama could have prevented this by placing conditions on the loans. He didn't. Now did any if your family members loss their homes in that aftermath? If they didn't you you probably cheered on the bailout as necessary. And didn't think twice about those families who lost so much.

Are you tight now aching and crying over the people killed in Gaza? I doubt it.

So please stop with the false "I care so much more than you" bullshit. You don't, you care about you, those you love, and your personal beliefs, just like everyone else. And will sacrifice those you don't know. That's human nature too.

As for the last comment. You are the one crying and shaming anyone who doesn't vote Democrat. I'm the one saying people can vote for whoever they choose. My point is the present 2 parties are both in a downward spiral of corruption, and being in a bubble where they can't see the real needs of the American People. So people can vote as they choose. Including third party. And your fake calls fir pragmatism in the face of how bad the 2 parties are ring hollow. As well as your default position of Dems good GOP bad. That's just YOUR OPINION. That's it. Pretty much meaningless.

Check your ego.

 

[Frankfooter]

Just checking that this means you are now claiming that Jill Stein is the lesser evil people should be voting for, right?
Or are you still pretending you are a revolutionary?

Still arguing its not an issue?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853051703521628346

 

[Valcazar]

Is this a Kamala Harris word salad?

No.
It's quite simple and easy to understand.
That may make it word salad to you, but then Trump supporters aren't exactly known for their linguistic skills.

 

[squeezer]

Now this is an entertaining debate

A dumb twat Neanderthal who will probably end up in jail one day vs intelligent folks

“I Want To Hurt You!” Trump Supporter THREATENS Opponent Mid-Debate (Feat. Destiny)

 

[Valcazar]

Lol. Cripes you are obtuse.

I'll try again. If a person suffers a loss, say a death in the family, and maybe they are at best peripheral in my life, I can feel sympathy, but it has no affect on me. Just like it has no affect on you. Right now hundreds are dead in Spain due to flooding, I sympathize, hope the locals can reviver quickly, but again, it has no affect on my life.

OK, good.
So we are back to "this has no affect on me or anyone else" and anyone who thinks you are making these arguments out of some principle or concern about the outcome is a fool.

Here is one for you. In the aftermath if the 2009 bank bailouts, 500 000 people were foreclosed on. Obama could have prevented this by placing conditions on the loans. He didn't. Now did any if your family members loss their homes in that aftermath? If they didn't you you probably cheered on the bailout as necessary. And didn't think twice about those families who lost so much.

Are you tight now aching and crying over the people killed in Gaza? I doubt it.

I get it.
You aren't good at empathy and you project that onto other people.
Politics is entirely a "what's in it for me" thing (with maybe a small side order of "am I winning the argument" thrown in).

This tracks with your comments over time and the way you discuss Canadian politics, where you can see the direct effects on you more clearly.

That's cool.
It's how I've had you pegged for quite some time.
It's nice you are confirming it for the edification of other people on the board, but this is all old news really.

So please stop with the false "I care so much more than you" bullshit. You don't, you care about you, those you love, and your personal beliefs, just like everyone else. And will sacrifice those you don't know. That's human nature too.

This tracks as your worldview.

As for the last comment. You are the one crying and shaming anyone who doesn't vote Democrat. I'm the one saying people can vote for whoever they choose. My point is the present 2 parties are both in a downward spiral of corruption, and being in a bubble where they can't see the real needs of the American People. So people can vote as they choose. Including third party. And your fake calls fir pragmatism in the face of how bad the 2 parties are ring hollow. As well as your default position of Dems good GOP bad. That's just YOUR OPINION. That's it. Pretty much meaningless.

Check your ego.

So you aren't going to answer the question?
Is Jill Stein the lesser evil people should vote for now?
Or did you realize that after your "Fuck you, Jack, I've got mine" monologue above, pretending you even think along the lines of "the real needs of the American People" isn't something that's going to work anymore?
(Although I see you couldn't help sticking it in there despite yourself.)

 

[Valcazar]

Now this is an entertaining debate

A dumb twat Neanderthal who will probably end up in jail one day vs intelligent folks

“I Want To Hurt You!” Trump Supporter THREATENS Opponent Mid-Debate (Feat. Destiny)

Fucking Gavin.

 

[squeezer]

Fucking Gavin.

He is insane but I enjoy seeing Destiny not take him seriously and throw back insults.

 

[Butler1000]

OK, good.
So we are back to "this has no affect on me or anyone else" and anyone who thinks you are making these arguments out of some principle or concern about the outcome is a fool.



I get it.
You aren't good at empathy and you project that onto other people.
Politics is entirely a "what's in it for me" thing (with maybe a small side order of "am I winning the argument" thrown in).

This tracks with your comments over time and the way you discuss Canadian politics, where you can see the direct effects on you more clearly.

That's cool.
It's how I've had you pegged for quite some time.
It's nice you are confirming it for the edification of other people on the board, but this is all old news really.



This tracks as your worldview.




So you aren't going to answer the question?
Is Jill Stein the lesser evil people should vote for now?
Or did you realize that after your "Fuck you, Jack, I've got mine" monologue above, pretending you even think along the lines of "the real needs of the American People" isn't something that's going to work anymore?
(Although I see you couldn't help sticking it in there despite yourself.)

Like I said, obtuse.

 

[The Oracle]

OH NO, Rogan is coming to the other side
Joe Rogan Experience #2222 - John Fetterman

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853126776760774717

And this kids is the actual way the Dems steal elections...Fetterman says we need to have an honest discussion. But won't address any of Joe's points...Utter fail.