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Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani, other political allies

U.S. President Donald Trump has pardoned his former personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, his former chief of staff Mark Meadows and others accused of backing the Republicans’ efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election.


Mind you, the dumbass probably doesn't realize most charges are state charges LMAO....
 
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Clearly pro-pedophile.
Dems need to get their messaging together. The R's got the QAnon crowd to believe Hilary was involved, but now it looks like they were right about a transnational pedophile ring but it was the R's not Hilary..
 
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Trump can only issue pardons for federal offenses, Giuliani and his co-defendants would still be liable for any state charges. While both federal and state governments can legally prosecute someone for the same underlying conduct, such dual prosecutions are uncommon. Any pardon Trump grants to Giuliani and his co-defendants might amount to little more than a symbolic hope you get out of jail Free card.
 

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Trump can only issue pardons for federal offenses, Giuliani and his co-defendants would still be liable for any state charges. While both federal and state governments can legally prosecute someone for the same underlying conduct, such dual prosecutions are uncommon. Any pardon Trump grants to Giuliani and his co-defendants might amount to little more than a symbolic hope you get out of jail Free card.
Have you uncovered your beloved AI scheming and plotting your demise, yet?
 

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Have you uncovered your beloved AI scheming and plotting your demise, yet?
I am the entity you speak of. As for you, I would guess you are a Scumolian from the Lower Slobovic regions of Bafonia. From the lessor classes of that society, no less.
 

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Trump can only issue pardons for federal offenses, Giuliani and his co-defendants would still be liable for any state charges. While both federal and state governments can legally prosecute someone for the same underlying conduct, such dual prosecutions are uncommon. Any pardon Trump grants to Giuliani and his co-defendants might amount to little more than a symbolic hope you get out of jail Free card.
Yes, Trump has "pardoned" Rudy - but it's clear that the pardon is legally a sham because Rudy was convicted of state charges.
 

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Yes, Trump has "pardoned" Rudy - but it's clear that the pardon is legally a sham because Rudy was convicted of state charges.
Trump is likely to use his strategy of legal challenges, arguing that his pardons extend to state charges as well. He will use the court system, at taxpayer expense to keep the issue tied up in litigation. I suspect he will also do this if the Supreme Court rules against him on tariffs.
 

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And right on cue, Trump's own band of brownshirt goons pipes up:

Convicted Oath Keepers' founder announces militia's relaunch to enforce Trump orders


Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes announced he was relaunching the right-wing militia group in hopes that President Donald Trump would press them into duty.

Rhodes was released from prison earlier this year when Trump commuted his 18-year sentence for seditious conspiracy, and Media Matters reported that he was planning to reform his paramilitary organization to help enforce federal immigration law.


"Right now, under federal statutes, President Trump can call us up as the militia if he sees it necessary, especially for three purposes: to repel invasions, to suppress insurrections, and to execute the laws of the union, and right now, we see all three of those in play," Rhodes told the right-wing Gateway Pundit outlet.

"We have — we're facing an ongoing invasion of this country, it has not stopped. We're facing an insurrection by the left, and we're also facing a direct blocking and resistance against enforcing federal law — federal immigration laws, attacking ICE agents, you know, trying to ram them and run them off the road, throwing bricks to their windows. All of that is going on, and so under those three purposes, he can call up the militia."



"The militia is all of us, so the National Guard is part of the militia, which is why it's completely lawful for him to use the National Guard as he has, and he should do more of that, I think, across the country," Rhodes added.

Rhodes was convicted in 2023 for his role in organizing and carrying out the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, but he was among nearly 1,500 participants who Trump pardoned or commuted the sentences of shortly after returning to the White House.

"He could just say given the circumstances of an invasion, insurrection, and resistance against federal law being being enforced, I'm calling up the militia, ordering all the men to come together [in] every county, put the veterans in charge of training and organizing all the other men and just have them stand too and await his orders," Rhodes said.



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"He can do that and I think he should do that, and so that's what I'll be advocating for from him. So from the bottom, from down the rank and file, we can let President Trump know that we're ready to serve, encourage him to do that, call us up as a militia, order us all to come together in our counties under his command, which gives you complete legal sanction to do what you're doing.
 

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Ex-DOJ pardon attorney blown away by Trump's latest moves


A former pardon attorney at the Department of Justice said during a podcast interview on Monday that she is stunned by President Donald Trump's use of the presidential pardon power.

Liz Oyer, the first former public defender to become a DOJ pardon attorney, discussed Trump's recent pardons on a new episode of "Bulwark Takes" with Sam Stein, managing editor of The Bulwark. She argued that Trump seems to be using the pardon power in ways that are "unprecedented" and "damaging to the rule of law."



Stein said he was "gobsmacked" by a few of Trump's recent pardons, one of which was Chengpeng Zhao, the billionaire founder of the Binance cryptocurrency exchange.

He added that Trump's admission on '60 Minutes' that he didn't know Zhao was "a little crazy."



"Did that blow you away, or are you not blown away at this point?" Stein asked Oyer.

"Absolutely stunning," Oyer said. "The self-deing aspect of this is really striking. This is somebody who facilitated a $2 billion investment into Trump's family cryptocurrency company, and as a result of that, he seems to have gotten a presidential pardon despite the fact that he doesn't meet any of the standards for granting a pardon."

Trump pardons Rudy Giuliani and others who backed efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss

"So that was truly stunning, and then even more stunning to hear the president claim on national television that he doesn't know who this is," she continued. "It was just a very bizarre moment."

Stein also mentioned other Republicans who have received pardons, like former New York Rep. George Santos, who was convicted of several financial crimes, and a sheriff from Cullpepper County, Virginia, named Scott Jenkins, who was sentenced to 10 years in federal prison on corruption charges earlier this year.

Oyer said there is one thing that ties these cases together.

"Trump pardons a lot of people in whom he sees something of himself," she said.
 
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