TRUSTFUND for Murdered ESCORTS SON

[twinkle]

I made a similar post in the ESCORTS section.
May ling was an escort and MOTHER, of one 18yr old son, in Toronto who was savagely murdered on Thanksgiving.
While most of us were having happy joy filled times with family and friends, eating and giving thanks for the many BLESSINGS in our lives this poor woman was being terrorized and savagely murdered.
God rest her soul. And god HELP her now MOTHERLESS son!

She was a parent a MOTHER, like many of you who would and did absolutely anything to take care of her child..... to put him through school so that he could have a better education and thus more choices.....hopefully enabling him to have the opportunity to have better choices than she had in her life.
How many MEN and SPs on this board have kids? Maybe even an 18 year old son?

To many of us this a very sad news story...... but to her 18 year old SON who is now MOTHERLESS and FATHERLESS this is the nightmare he is living and willrelive for the rest of his life. I am afraid these are the type of scars one never fully heals from!
His pain will never cease but I was thinking that if we ALL piched in at least FIANCIALLY (lets put our money where our mouth is) we could proactively help this young boy if even just a little bit. He will need all the help he can get!

****Are there any terbites that can give me some information about how to set up a TRUSTFUND for this boy? Becasue in my opinion if ever he has needed a helping hand the time is now!
Feel free to PM me if necessary

 

[papasmerf]

Head down to your local bank.

Sit down with ant of the platform people and they will get you started on the Trustfund.

 

[Don]

I realize that this may sound a bit insensitive and I apologize if I offend anyone but an 18 yr old son is hardly a 'kid'? I was pretty self sufficient at that age and I knew many people in university that since their first year were working and using student loads be be near self sufficient.

The murder was a tragedy and the poor son was traumatized and he has my sympathy. But if you want to help a disadvantaged kid, there are many who aren't nearly as capable of taking care of themselves as an 18 yr old.

<now awaiting for the flames>

 

[scubadoo]

I realize that this may sound a bit insensitive and I apologize if I offend anyone but an 18 yr old son is hardly a 'kid'? I was pretty self sufficient at that age and I knew many people in university that since their first year were working and using student loads be be near self sufficient.

The murder was a tragedy and the poor son was traumatized and he has my sympathy. But if you want to help a disadvantaged kid, there are many who aren't nearly as capable of taking care of themselves as an 18 yr old.

<now awaiting for the flames>

No flaming, but I think you'll find that those 18 year olds you described for the most part had a mummy and daddy waiting in the wings willing to help if need be. Heck, my univeristy roomate was such a momma's boy he couldn't go a day without talking to her and he was always getting money and care packages etc etc etc.

If a trustfund does get set up please make sure to post the details so those of us who have been saddened by this tragic event can make a contribution to the effort.

 

[ice_dog]

Yes, you are bing very inseneitive.

I realize that this may sound a bit insensitive and I apologize if I offend anyone but an 18 yr old son is hardly a 'kid'? I was pretty self sufficient at that age and I knew many people in university that since their first year were working and using student loads be be near self sufficient.

The murder was a tragedy and the poor son was traumatized and he has my sympathy. But if you want to help a disadvantaged kid, there are many who aren't nearly as capable of taking care of themselves as an 18 yr old.

<now awaiting for the flames>

 

[WhOiSyOdAdDy?]

I posted earlier and it was deleted by Fred Zed... and was told it was a "VERY INSENSITIVE COMMENT"

The comment...

"Did she not have insurance?"

I disagree Fred

Perhaps I should have said a little more so that it was not taken out of context as one of my usual smart ass comments

And looking at the original post in the thread again... I could see starting a trustfund for a "young boy".... but he is 18.. an adult.. not a young boy...

And a trustfund should only be set up by a close personal friend of the family who is aware of the financial situation.. property.. savings.. insurance.. debts.. as if she had property, or insurance or saving.. why is a trustfund needed??

If he really was a young person... I might have been inclined to contribute

If the original poster had posted saying that he/she was a close personal friend of the family of the woman who was killed had no savings.. no insurance... no property and it would be nice to set up a trustfund for her son's post secondary education.. then I may have thought that it was a great idea to give him a start.



Am I insensistive & cold??.. maybe.. but having dealt with more than my sharre of loss... also realistic

 

[milehigh]

18yr olds

Suggest total support of the kid, in his development he could only have the maturity of a 16 yr old.

Any such incident it toitally devastating to family members and some get really messed up.

I work alot with kids from age 7 right up to 20 - thay are very vulnerable and they can get extremely messed up.

Add the fact that this can totally fuck up the remaining extended family.

Kids can possibly deal with difficulty with a natural death or accident.

Unnatural death - never seen one who deals well with it.

In cases like this you really have to live in the other person's shoes before you understand. In this case, as in other cases, people just have no idea what the kid is going through.

 

[Don]

Please don't consider this a flame, but you might want to reconsider your position. You sound like your probably my age, mid-40 and back when we where 18

Actually I am 30 and first entered university back in 1990. I understood how important a university degree was so through work and loans and some grants I was able to pay myself through school (though I had to go to school part time becuae the work was tiring at times). My parents were not well off (but were not poor enough to get the big financial assistance) so it was pretty much up to me to pay myself.

I agree, 18 yrs is still pretty young. But I worked in a youth center and some of those 10-14 yr olds where some have lost their parents and they are screwed. They have no options. Really too young to be taken seriously for real work. Didn't really see too many kids 17+ yrs there... once they hit that age they were working since they were considered adults (at least the ones that weren't all messed up in the head).

We've got 17 and 18 yr olds working in the company I work for. We look at them as adults - they certainly want to be considered as such.

I've met some girls in the biz who were 19 and 20. They are not too far removed from 18 but I definately don't think of them as kids....

Anyway I'm not trying to say that he doesn't deserve any help and I'm certainly not trying to flame anyone for trying to help. The Trustfund is a nice idea - especially as a sign to show support for the ladies in the biz. I'd like to contribute myself. My oint was slightly off topic and I guess it was a bad move to put it on this thread. My apologies. Heck I needed help at 18 to get through school (loans, grants) and could have used more to make my life easier! But the original post made it sound like he was some 10 yr old helpless orphan and I didn't really agree with that so much when walk by a youth center everyday and see 13 yr olds who are REALLY lost and really need assistance.

 

[Don]

And looking at the original post in the thread again... I could see starting a trustfund for a "young boy".... but he is 18.. an adult.. not a young boy...

And a trustfund should only be set up by a close personal friend of the family who is aware of the financial situation.. property.. savings.. insurance.. debts.. as if she had property, or insurance or saving.. why is a trustfund needed??

If he really was a young person... I might have been inclined to contribute

If the original poster had posted saying that he/she was a close personal friend of the family of the woman who was killed had no savings.. no insurance... no property and it would be nice to set up a trustfund for her son's post secondary education.. then I may have thought that it was a great idea to give him a start.



Am I insensistive & cold??.. maybe.. but having dealt with more than my sharre of loss... also realistic

and probably now banned

I agree - 18 is considered an adult. Like I said, after seeing some real young hopeless kids who really have no future since they don't even have a highschool education, I find at 18, you aren't as defenseless as kids.

I think the financial assistance is a nice gesture and support it from the standpoint of showing support to the ladies of the biz. From the standpoint of helping a poor helpless 18 yr old out...

 

[Don]

Luckily he, like us, lives in Canada where there is a support system for him, you and me (unlike many other countries out there)

Agreed - set it up and contribute (or don't) if you wish. Now I will "shut the F--- up" as bbking kindly put it and stop debating the merits of a trust funds.

 

[Don]

bbking - No worries. This is a very bad situation. I should have known better and kept my trap shut. My apologies to everyone and my sincere sympathies for family and friends of the deceased.

 

[GirlFriends Toronto]

I am not trying to get flamed but are you all sure he would want to accept this donation?
He may have a hatred towards this industry.
He may already be independent and will survive this tragedy and succeed however, he may not.

If he knew of his mother's occupation or not this young man will need and I hope will get counselling.

If a fund is arranged, maybe it should be done via a Vietnamese (sp) community.
I think this maybe more appropriate.

Amber

 

[twinkle]

I went to the candlelight vigil tonight, and after speaking to the women who knew Mayling personally and info about her life/son........I will be working with Maggies and SWAT to have a trustfund set up for Maylings' son.
I have been told that a trustfund for a another murdered escorts (Ogilvie -sp) children was set up a few years ago.

 

[WhOiSyOdAdDy?]

I went to the candlelight vigil tonight, and after speaking to the women who knew Mayling personally and info about her life/son........I will be working with Maggies and SWAT to have a trustfund set up for Maylings' son.
I have been told that a trustfund for a another murdered escorts (Ogilvie -sp) children was set up a few years ago.

How many people showed up?

I hope that this not taken the wrong way

Is it not possibleto set up a fund for "children of murdered southern ontario sextrade workers"?.. the reasoning.. there has been a few in the past and it is very sad, but in the society we live in, there is many sick people and I think it is inevitable that more may suffer the same fate in the future... and sex trade workers who care about the fund, could hold some sort of fund raising event(s) throughout the year...

Is there no programs or support groups set up to teach sex trade workers how to manage their money and their lives so that they do not get trapped in this industry / lifestyle for long or for life??

Just my thoughts

 

[Berlin]

... as stated before all Twinkle has to do is let me know, PM or otherwise, where I can donate

Keep us update on this issue, Twinkle.

 

[laurelg@maggies]

twinkle: when i heard of this idea at the vigil i thought it is an excellent idea!

btw: did we end up meeting at some point in the night?

 

[DenWa]

I think it's great that you guys want to help this guy, but I don't think Don should be called cold and insensitive for sharing his views. He has a valid point.

Do what you think is right. But don't shut down someone who was just sharing an honest thought. I personally feel an 18 year old has a decent shot at being ok - especially in Canada where you have a lot of services provided by the government that we don't get down here in the States. With that said, I think it's admirable that the TERB community would want to help.

DW

 

[canucklehead]

My parents died when i was 15 and i had no trust no insurance and no relatives other then a brother and sister both were pretty absent from my life as i grew older. I managed to make it trough University and life, but in hind site the compassion of strangers may have really made it easier.