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Violent Intimidation

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Violent Intimidation
by Robert Spencer

Posted: 04/24/2007

On Thursday, April 12, Somali thugs on an Oslo street attacked Kadra, a Somali woman who now lives in Norway, and beat her senseless, breaking several of her ribs. They were enraged at her for her recent statement that the Qur’an’s views of women needed reevaluation. They also might have been angry because of her role in revealing the widespread support among imams in Norway for female genital mutilation.

As they beat her, Kadra’s attackers shouted Allahu akbar -- Allah is great -- and recited verses from the Qur’an. “I was terrified,” she said. “While I lay on the pavement they kicked me and screamed that I had trampled on the Koran.”

The following Tuesday, two men in Mississauga, Ontario, attacked journalist Jawaad Faizi, who writes for the Pakistan Post, a newspaper based in Mississauga. The attackers told Faizi to stop “writing against Islam,” and particularly to stop criticizing an Islamic organization, Idara Minhaj-ul-Quran.

Faizi, a native of Lahore, Pakistan, said, “I had so many problems back home as a journalist, but I’m shocked that this is happening here.”

Of course, “writing against Islam,” or being perceived as having done so, has always been dangerous, as Salman Rushdie can attest. The New York Times reported in 2002 that a professor at the University of Nablus in the West Bank, Suliman Bashear, who “argued that Islam developed as a religion gradually rather than emerging fully formed from the mouth of the Prophet,” was for this heretical teaching (from the point of view of traditional Islam) thrown out of a second-story window by his students. In 1992, Egyptian writer Faraj Foda was murdered by Muslims enraged at his “apostasy” from Islam -- another offense for which Islamic law prescribes the death penalty.

But for such things to happen where Islamic radicalism is widespread is one thing; to have them happen in Oslo and Ontario is another. But this has happened before in the West. On November 2, 2004, Dutch filmmaker Theo van Gogh was bicycling through the streets of Amsterdam when Mohammed Bouyeri, a Muslim wearing traditional Islamic clothing, began shooting at him. After Van Gogh fell off his bike, Bouyeri ran up to him and began slitting his throat, attempting to behead him. He left a note on a knife stabbed into the body. The note contained verses from the Qur’an and threats to other Dutch public figures who opposed the flood of Muslim immigrants into the Netherlands.

Bouyeri killed van Gogh because of the filmmaker’s twelve-minute video Submission, which decried the mistreatment of Muslim women. At his trial, Bouyeri was absolutely clear about why he murdered van Gogh. “I did what I did purely out my beliefs,” he explained, Qur’an in hand. “I want you to know that I acted out of conviction and not that I took his life because he was Dutch or because I was Moroccan and felt insulted….If I ever get free, I would do it again.” He was, he said, acting in accord with Islamic law: “What moved me to do what I did was purely my faith. I was motivated by the law that commands me to cut off the head of anyone who insults Allah and his prophet.”

The attacks on Kadra and Faizi show that there are many others in the West today who believe that they must likewise act upon Allah’s commands and victimize those whom they deem to have offended Islam.

This is a challenge to all Western governments, for it is a challenge to the freedom of speech that is rooted in the constitutions and laws of Western states, and ultimately is intimately connected with the freedom of conscience and the Judeo-Christian view of the dignity of the human being before God. Western leaders should move now to make it abundantly clear that attacks on “blasphemers” and “heretics” will not be tolerated; that those who believe that Sharia should be the highest law of the land are not welcome here; and that the West will defend our Judeo-Christian culture and heritage.

Otherwise, only one thing is certain: there will be many more such attacks.


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And the lieberals constantly tell us these thugs are acceptable in our society. We will all pay the price for the lack of vigilance. Time to stop treating them with kid gloves.
 

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LancsLad said:
And the lieberals constantly tell us these thugs are acceptable in our society. We will all pay the price for the lack of vigilance. Time to stop treating them with kid gloves.
No doubt Harper will rectify this immediately. If he does not, however, I'm sure you'll conveniently find some way to blame that on the Liberals too.
 

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LancsLad said:
And the lieberals constantly tell us these thugs are acceptable in our society. We will all pay the price for the lack of vigilance. Time to stop treating them with kid gloves.
Have you forgotten that the conservatives are in power? Darn it,
makes it harder to blame the liberals for everything that happens, doesn't it???:p
 

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slowpoke said:
No doubt Harper will rectify this immediately. If he does not, however, I'm sure you'll conveniently find some way to blame that on the Liberals too.


We can hope he will.


I can think of more than a few policy changes that would clean up the problem.
 

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LancsLad said:
We can hope he will.


I can think of more than a few policy changes that would clean up the problem.
Yeah, and let's hope the first policy change made is to get a RN 'rubber dingy' and send you along with another 15 marines over there and hope you don't get caught like the last time!.........:rolleyes:
 

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danmand said:
Have you forgotten that the conservatives are in power? Darn it,
makes it harder to blame the liberals for everything that happens, doesn't it???:p


Can't reverse a decade of sloth in just one year but at least they are trying.
 

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LancsLad said:
Can't reverse a decade of sloth in just one year but at least they are trying.
So exactly what would you change? We already have fairly strict laws about threatening, assault, assault with intent to injure etc. Do we even need a re-write or is this just an enforcement issue? The Liberals were the ones who passed the anti-gang legislation that has enabled LE to crack down on the biker gangs and the gangs around Malvern and Jane / Finch. Those are probably sufficient if there is organized religious violence and intimidation against certain individuals. Martin had stiffer sentencing laws awaiting passage through parliament but Harper pulled the plug. Harper has since brought in his own stiffer sentencing laws and he could have added more if he thought we needed them.
 

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Get rid of the bleeeding lefty judges who give slap on the wrist sentences.
Automatic 10 years plus what ever , consecutive not concurrent, for any crime you commit using a firearm.

Landed immigrant commits a felony, them and their family outa here.

Enforce the border rules.

Start there, more to come.
 

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LancsLad said:
Get rid of the bleeeding lefty judges who give slap on the wrist sentences.
Automatic 10 years plus what ever , consecutive not concurrent, for any crime you commit using a firearm.

Landed immigrant commits a felony, them and their family outa here.

Enforce the border rules.

Start there, more to come.
Most people would agree with you on stricter controls and laws for firearms, and as far as I know, landed immigrants are deported if they commit a felony. (I was very careful untill I became a canadian).

I thought judges had some independence. How are you proposing to control the thoughts of judges?
 

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danmand said:
Most people would agree with you on stricter controls and laws for firearms, and as far as I know, landed immigrants are deported if they commit a felony. (I was very careful untill I became a canadian).

I thought judges had some independence. How are you proposing to control the thoughts of judges?

Public pressure, and only appoint those in the future that fit the program. Unfortunately we are stuck with a lot of crap the libs put in but I think some may come around a little if we really turned the public heat up on them.

I really doubt they deport most LI criminals, some seem to be multiple offenders and they are still here.
 

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LancsLad said:
Public pressure, and only appoint those in the future that fit the program. Unfortunately we are stuck with a lot of crap the libs put in but I think some may come around a little if we really turned the public heat up on them.
I think you are better off having Harper change the laws to the US way and put more poor and mentally ill people in Jail. If you outsource jails to private companies, that can be a growth industry and help the economy. Let us see if we can beat the US in how big a percentage of the population we have in jail.
 

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danmand said:
I think you are better off having Harper change the laws to the US way and put more poor and mentally ill people in Jail. If you outsource jails to private companies, that can be a growth industry and help the economy. Let us see if we can beat the US in how big a percentage of the population we have in jail.

Danmand goes fishing, looking for a bite, but there is no hit.

When you are serious we can continue this.
 

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LancsLad said:
Danmand goes fishing, looking for a bite, but there is no hit.

When you are serious we can continue this.
OK, seriously, I believe the constitution guarantees independence of judges,
and I also believe the High Court of Canada is there to defend the constitution.

But the only real solutions to reducing crime are 1. prosperity and 2. rehabilitation.
In Canada (and more so in the US), criminals are not rehabilitated, but punished.
Too often minor criminals are turned into major criminals in jail. It may sound
liberal to you, but rehabilitation is actually more fiscally responsible, because it
saves money.
 

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danmand said:
OK, seriously, I believe the constitution guarantees independence of judges,
and I also believe the High Court of Canada is there to defend the constitution.


There is statute and there is reality. There are adequate sentences on the books for most crimes, the farking judges just don't give them ou. In the face of a major public relations campaign they would cave. I'm not saying the Feds force them just make it too bloody hot for them in the public eye, for the judges to maintain their wimpy sentencing policy.
 

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LancsLad said:
There is statute and there is reality. There are adequate sentences on the books for most crimes, the farking judges just don't give them ou. In the face of a major public relations campaign they would cave. I'm not saying the Feds force them just make it too bloody hot for them in the public eye, for the judges to maintain their wimpy sentencing policy.
But how are you going to do that? You always maintain that the media is
hopelessly liberal. I think you are screwed.
 

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danmand said:
But how are you going to do that? You always maintain that the media is
hopelessly liberal. I think you are screwed.

The media are lefty thats for sure but they like to sell papers and if it was properly done, the spontaneous public surge of otrage would catch their attention.

Lefties always fold in the face of money.
 

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Gotta wonder about a “religion” that kills people or at least beats the shit out of them if they dare say a word against it.

That should be your 1st clue, Sherlock that there’s something seriously messed up about that “religion.”
 
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